From ???@??? Sun Mar 02 02:11:01 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA00401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 02:06:46 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 2 Mar 1997 01:06:17 -0700 Resent-Date: 2 Mar 1997 01:06:16 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 02:05:49 -0600 Message-Id: <199703020805.CAA00348@vigil.pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org From: braswell@pbmo.net (Keith Braswell) Subject: Some things to consider... Resent-Message-ID: <"c-RQr3.0.Xp1.tJJ6p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org Reply-To: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/399 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Dear Braswell List Member, The Braswell List was created, and is maintained, for the purpose of friends and family of the Braswell surname to meet in an open forum and discuss BRASWELL Genealogy and BRASWELL Family History. I want to thank James Green for starting this list originally, and I would like to say how pleased I am to have each one of you as a part of this open discussion currently. As of today we have 71 subscribers to the List. Over the past year I have seen many come and go but I don't think that we have ever had such a fine group as we have right now. Thank you for your contributions this far and I look forward to more in the future. As with any group of people, we will sometimes have our differences in opinion. To have a "difference" is not a bad thing but there is something that could be said about the way we go about having our "differences". So, in an effort to maintain a quality level of discussion I would ask that everyone try to follow these simple rules. 1. Be patient with people who don't do things "your way". We all have different programs and different formats. If you wish to give someone guidence on how to send information most efficiently please do it privately. Send them the message directly rather than through the list. This will cut down on messages that are not related to the subject and any offense that might be taken publicly. 2. When you disagree with someones research don't use personal terms to refute their work. State your differences in a "clinical" way. Use references and explain yourself clearly and kindly. The typed word is so much different than the spoken word. When you type a sentence, it could be taken much differently than you typed it if the person you are typing it to doesn't know you. If your statement could be interpreted wrong be sure to use expressions to show that you are not being rude. A ( or or ) can sometimes help you show emotion (expression) that doen't show when you type. Some use the ("Laugh Out Loud"), the ("Rolling on floor Laughing") or some will use the sideways face to show a smile : ) or frown : ( 3. Don't assume that everyone knows who you are. Be sure to always sign your name at the bottom of your message. It is really helpful if you use your signature line in your email program if it supports it. This way your name gets signed to the bottom of your message in case you forget. Many women use their husbands email addresses to send email and it really gets confusing if they don't ever sign their name to the bottom of the message. As I receive about 20 messages a day I even like to see people put where they are from after their name. It gives me another thing to try to remember them by. 4. Refrain from using all CAPS if you possibly can. I would rather see someone type their messages in all lower case than in all caps. Beginners often use all caps because they are not familiar with the keyboard. However, many receive this as SHOUTING and it can be very annoying. When a person types in all caps it takes away from their being able to make a point or bring attention to something VERY IMPORTANT. If you feel you MUST type in all caps, we will receive your messages just as gladly. But, we will hold our ears while we read them! 5. Just remember the Golden Rule! "Do unto others as you would have them do unto YOU!" Thank you! Keith Braswell David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Sun Mar 02 02:11:11 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA00418 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 02:07:01 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 2 Mar 1997 01:06:23 -0700 Resent-Date: 2 Mar 1997 01:06:23 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 02:05:48 -0600 Message-Id: <199703020805.CAA00344@vigil.pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Joyce From: braswell@pbmo.net (Keith Braswell) Subject: Your message to the Braswell-List. Cc: braswell-L@genealogy.org Resent-Message-ID: <"UKaBo2.0.4q1.-JJ6p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org Reply-To: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/400 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Joyce, I enjoyed your message that you posted to the List! Thanks for your compliments on the site and I am glad you found the archives of use. I am going to be posting a new file soon that has some really interesting "stuff" in it. Thanks for your family information and I hope that you find more information that is helpful to you. I am pleased to have your experience in genealogy as a part of the list and hope to see you involved in the discussions. Yours for genealogy, Keith Braswell David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Sun Mar 02 08:40:10 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA06926 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 05:25:00 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 2 Mar 1997 04:24:49 -0700 Resent-Date: 2 Mar 1997 04:24:49 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 06:24:35 -0500 (EST) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970302062432_-1004595375@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Some Things to Remember Resent-Message-ID: <"UMC_A2.0.o54.1EM6p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org Reply-To: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/401 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Thanks Keith for putting it so well. Newcomers are going to say things that old-timers perceive as incorrect. However if the newcomers perceive they are being chastised, they will fear to participate and that would be bad for them and us. I remarked to my friends and family that everyone I had met in my new hobby of genealogy was a friendly group. I have been in libraries, etc. where complete strangers would take a lot of time to help me in the mechanics of my search. The same goes for the net. Where else could you meet a first cousin, four times removed? Foy Braswell FoyBras@aol.com From ???@??? Sun Mar 02 08:40:11 1997 Received: from emout20.mail.aol.com (emout20.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.46]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA09900 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 07:31:59 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA06816; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 08:30:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 08:30:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970302083022_-904131206@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net cc: rof@backporch.com, gayleell@cdsnet.net, MORGAN-HAWK@msn.com Subject: Re: My Braswell lines Dear Cousin Keith, Thanks for the update on your busy life. Yes, I'm quite confident about the imminent solution to your Braswell pedigree problem; With JAMES, Sr. you are back to the grandsons of RICHARD, s/o the Immigrant. Only one generation to identify, and they are near Isle of Wight, away from that Gordian Knot of tangled pedigrees in Edcombe-Nash! CAREY From ???@??? Sun Mar 02 08:40:13 1997 Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA12442 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 08:34:07 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA20882; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 09:31:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 09:31:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970302093142_-1004584805@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: gayleell@cdsnet.net cc: PATTIBILL@aol.com, linda@iggy.salsa.net, rio@netime.com, braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com, growler@prodigy.net, MORGAN-HAWK@msn.com Subject: Re: Nona's Williams Family Dear Gayle, The map showing VALENTINE BRACEWELL with WILLIAMS' was one I drew of the Virginia/North Carolina boundary (Isle of Wight County, Va & Bertie Precinct, NC) as surveyed by Governor Byrd in 1703. VAL was seated within yards of the provincial boundary in a sort of colonial "no man's land". Socially he was already in a kind of no man's land by having lately married Quakeress JANE POPE even though he was the grandson of a famous local Anglican priest! (I have lately found out that these Quakers like HENRY POPE had been driven south into the "turpentine forest" community by an intolerant Virginia Anglican government.) VAL was the quintessential con artist and "user", evidently. He used his charm and FFV (First Families of Virginia) connections to get loans from rich widows and others--which he never repaid. And his stalking of that Miss WILSON in Bertie (who finally had to put a peace bond on this MARRIED man) is a matter of public record. Evidently VAL lived by his wits all his life, never working TOO hard at anything except being likeable. He obviously learned the ferryboat business early on--on this map, we see he lived on the road to Cheshire's Ferry on the Meherrin River and was himself seated on a branch of Indian Towne Creek. Later, in Orange, he opened "Braswells' Ordinary" and ferryboat operation at the head of the Cape Fear River, where the Deep and Haw converge near present Moncure, N.C. In between time he lived off his Braswell-Williams relatives in the Tar Valley of Edgecombe until he decided to pioneer the Piedmont (easy land speculation) about 1745. I like to think of VALENTINE as the one ancestor who keeps his descendants (like me) from being too smug about our spiritual ancestry! LOL As you know, most of us with the "Z' sound in the first syllable are his far-flung offspring. I know it could be worse; it could have been one of SUSANNAH BURGESS' TOWLE bastards posing as a "Braswell" or one of ANN CARVER's "Braswell" woods colts!!! LOL CAREY From ???@??? Sun Mar 02 22:59:22 1997 Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com (emout17.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.43]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA02413 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 11:41:14 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA03116; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:40:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:40:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970302124009_787321682@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: MORGAN-HAWK@msn.com cc: braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com Subject: Braswell-Butler marriages Dear Cousin Joyce, The Braswell-Butler match I referred to Friday was the documented marriage (family Bible record) that occured c. 1775 in Anson County, NC, between ELIZABETH BRACEWELL, d/o RICHARD & OBEDIENCE, to JAMES BUTLER. She was born c. 1757 in Orange Co., NC. The couple--and their Baptist extended family--rode out the Revolution in the Wilkes Co area, then afterwards removed to Greenville District, SC. At century's turn, they migrated with the rest to present Anderson Co., Tennessee. I saw the interesting coincidence in names in your Georgia connection and thought I'd offer this interesting bit of obfuscating trivia! LOL CAREY From ???@??? Sun Mar 02 22:59:32 1997 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA27315 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 22:00:18 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA07651; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 22:58:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 22:58:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970302225805_-803396393@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com cc: braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com, gayleell@cdsnet.net, growler@prodigy.net Subject: Re: RICHARD BRACEWELL Dear Cuz, First of all, I'm a Newbie too & having trouble with your address. I try MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com and it brings down the Daemons on me! :) You're going to be glad you met me, Joyce! Flanigan's "History of Gwunnett Co., Georgia" , GS 975.822 H2f Vol.1 pp.323-326 is a sketch of your JAMES BRACEWELL given by W.B. Bracewell "his oldest son" sometime in the late nineteeth century {sorry, no pub date noted} Correction, I found it: published in 1879. Let me have your mailing address and I'll send you a copy right away. Its much too long to copy here. W.B.'s account of his family's origins are muddled, to say the least. But I know he gives enough information that we can readily establish your Bracewell lineage back to the Immigrant. And his data on the Georgia family is apparently accurate and certainly colorful! Can't wait to share this with you, Joyce! W.B. said that "Richard, the father of James, in the year 1793 married Charity Scarborough and their first child, James, was born June 5, 1794, in Allen's Fort, for the people then had to live in forts to protect themselves from the Indians.Richard had three other sons, Wiley, Richard and William. His wife died in 1804. After many years he married a Miss Carlisle by whom he had two sons, Kindred and Allen. He died in the year 1816, of consumption at about the age of fifty years, leaving his son, James, as executor of his estate...." He {James}" married Elizabeth Butler, the daughter of Jesse and Mary Butler, on May 10, 1820, in Morgan County....." The provenance of JAMES is less clear, but shouldn't be too great a stretch for this intrepid hunter of my 85% Ulster ancestors who scattered over the Mississippi Valley like frightened quail, especially with your expert help! My problem, as you know, is a 20-year hiatus in this research......nevertheless... This is what W.B. had to pass down as his version of the "Bracewell Creation Story" {complete with my insightful commentary} : "James Bracewell, who was one of the first settlers of Gwinnett County, descended from a long line of ancestors who immigrated to this country from Ireland {Oh, no! Not that blarneystone again!} in the early part of the eighteenth century {which is where the earliest, foggyist part of this jumble begins}. The name of the immigrant father is unknown {to W.B.}. He settled on Tar River, near Tarsbrough,N.C. {sic}, and reared only two children, both sons, Richard and Robert. {the Immigrant had sons ROBERT & RICHARD. The Tar Valley was the primary origin of North Carolina Braswells, grandsons of the Immigrant through 2nd son, Richard, b.c.1652} "Richard was the great grandfather of James. He reared eight children, all sons, one of whom was Richard, the grandfather of James. This Richard had two wives. By the first he had one child, a son, Robert, who served through the Revolutionary War, during which he made a powder horn upon which he carved his initials and that horn is still in the family." {This bit of physical evidence would seem to establish Robert as James' g-gf, the part about the Richard with two wives, I believe, will prove to be the RICHARD BRASWELL(, s/o ROBERT, s/o RICHARD, s/o ROBERT-who else?-The Immigrant. The Richard in question, great-grandson of the Immigrant, was b. ca.1712, d. 1747 in Edgecombe leaving his legitimate heirs (yours?) to fight it out over his estate with the illegitimate children he had by ANN CARVER, his common-law wife. This was in the late 1750's and is the best documented lineage of all North Carolina Braswells! Lucky you if this connects to your James! } W.B. goes on to say that Richard, James' dad, married Agnes Proctor "in the year 1764 or 1765 "{Sorry, couldn't locate this in my NC Index} and reared a large family, all boys except one daughter, and her name was Elizabeth. She is said to be the last daughter born in the Bracewell family in this country. His family was nearly all born and reared to be nearly grown in North Carolina. {Obviously what he was trying to say was that ELIZABETH was the last daughter born in North Carolina before they moved to Georgia} "Soon after the {Revolutionary} war he sold out and moved to Georgia and settled oon Briar Creek in Burke County....He then moved to Washington County, now Laurens, and settled on the Oconee River when it was the dividing line between the whites and the Indians. In a few years all his children died but three, Richard, Sampson, and Elizabeth. {And Richard was the father of James--got all that? LOL I checked my files for Burke, Washington, and of course, Gwinnett, and I think we've got enough to piece this one together. The situation is complicated by the fact that these were "bounty land counties" and Bracewell/Breazeale vets came pouring in from everywhere! W.R. says, truthfully no doubt, that "The removal of the grandfather from North Carolina gave the family a shock from which it never recovered." { Can I relate? My family went from "big dogs" in Saline County, Arkansas--co-founders of Benton, 1st Sheriff, State Rep, etc.--to near-busted Reconstruction refugees to Texas,!} CAREY From ???@??? Mon Mar 03 10:16:20 1997 Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id DAA19333 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 03:09:12 -0600 Received: from mail.cdsnet.net ([204.118.246.102]) by mail.cdsnet.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA09707 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 01:09:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 01:09:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703030909.BAA09707@mail.cdsnet.net> X-Sender: gayleell@mail.cdsnet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: braswell@pbmo.net From: gayleell@cdsnet.net (Gayle Ellison) Subject: Braswells I hope this is Keith's address: I am new to figuring out how this whole thing works. I reviewed all the messages tonight (took me 1-1/2 hours). I don't know how to download anything, or if I can. If I hd been a subscriber sooner, I assume I would have received most of those messages in broadcast form? Would it be possible for you to e-mail me the chart of Richard Bracewell, b. 1729 in Bertie? I think that is the line I will fit into. Thank you. Gayle Braswell Ellison From ???@??? Mon Mar 03 16:01:18 1997 Received: from ico.com (psycho2.iconetworks.net [204.94.129.66]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA05550 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:44:28 -0600 Received: from Pbackporch (rof.backporch.com [204.94.137.76]) by ico.com (8.8.5/8.8.2/103196) with ESMTP id NAA15970; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 13:42:36 -0800 Message-Id: <199703032142.NAA15970@ico.com> From: "Nona Williams" To: Cc: , , Subject: Re: My Braswell lines Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 01:43:13 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carey, You asked: > By the way, did you recognize all those WILLIAMs that lived near VALENTINE > BRACEWELL near the Virginia/North Carolina boundary? (Byrd's report in back) I've seen those names before and I suspect that they are related to my line and my direct ancestor may be one of those men. My Williams folks were very involved with the Braswells and I suspect that the George Williams/Gwillam (the Welsh version of Williams) who was named by Rev. Robert Braswell as a guardian for a son, was one of mine, but unfortunately the Williams family is even more challenging to research that the Braswells because there was probably at least one John Williams and one William Williams in every county and often there were multiple people of those names who weren't even related to one another. Here's what I can prove about my Williams line: William Williams (husband of Lucreasy Braswell and father-in-law of two Braswells) was probably born about 1750 prob. in Edgecombe Co., NC. He died in 1822 in Smith Co., Tennessee and he and Lucreasy Braswell probably married by 1768. They were certainly married by 1778 when her father, William Braswell died in Nash Co., Tennessee and William Williams was mentioned. The parents of William Williams may have led one of those alternative lifestyles that the Braswells were so fond of. William Williams' mother was Mary Griffin who married John Williams prob. by 1750. John Williams only appears in a few records but Mary Williams shows up all over the place, buying and selling land in her own name. When neighbors bought and sold land nearby, they referred to her property as "Mary Williams' land" but they never called her "the widow" which would satisfy me that her husband had died. If she had still been married I assume they would have called it John Williams' land. She was even assigned to a jury to work on a road. I can't discover the parents of John Williams and it appears that Mary Williams never remarried and never had any children other than William Williams. William obtained land from his mother, but there is no record of his father dying, leaving land to his son, or a guardian being appointed for William Williams as a minor child. The court records of Edgecombe Co., NC are missing during part of the 1750s so maybe that's why we can't find any answers. Strangely, Mary Williams nee Griffin's father disappeared around the same time John Williams disappeared. Mary's father was John Griffin who gave property to his daughter after she's married John Williams. I think that Mary had two brothers: John Griffin who married Mary Hardy or Hardin and James Griffin. And she was probably related to Archibald Griffin who was appointed guardian to the minor children of Samuel Braswell who died about 1795 in Nash Co., NC. Id like to discover the ancestry and family connections of Archibald. It appears that as a young woman, Mary Griffin married John Williams, had one son and then lived the remainder of her long life alone with her son (and the slaves who no doubt kept the plantation profitable). She was on the Nash Co., NC tax list in 1782 and was still alive in 1790. She and her son, William, lived on Pig Basket Creek near their Braswell neighbors. My guesses about John Williams are that he was probably born by 1730; prob. married by 1750 and prob. died between 1754-57. The only thing I'm sure of is that he married Mary Griffin and a son was born named William Williams. William Williams probably didn't know his father and he didn't even name a son John. The children of William and Lucreasy were called: Elizabeth, Chloe, Milly, Priscilla, William, Mary, Samuel, Gilbert, Lucretia and Nancy. >From Nona in Santa Cruz, CA From ???@??? Tue Mar 04 00:17:20 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA29084 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 23:11:29 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 3 Mar 1997 19:34:01 -0700 Resent-Date: 3 Mar 1997 19:34:01 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <199703040233.UAA17677@legend.txdirect.net> From: "Guy Braswell" To: Subject: Courtney L. BRASWELL Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 20:30:54 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"88fkK1.0._I4.Neu6p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org Reply-To: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/403 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org We are looking for any information on Courtney L BRASWELL, born to Elijah Thomas and Julia Chrischany LAY. He was born 25 April 1902, died 20 Jan. 1963. He was married to Dorothy ? He was born in Paucah, KY and lived his adult years around the St. Louis, Mo area. We have lost track of him. Also I am looking for a nice Braswell book for a gift to my Mother in law. I know I read a lot of talk about books in the archives but can't seem to find them quickly. I would like a book on the Early Braswell's in the USA or in England. It can be mostly history, this will probably not be used for serious research. Thank you. Karen From ???@??? Tue Mar 04 08:16:14 1997 Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id DAA16548 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 03:49:25 -0600 Received: from gp-pm3-02.dip.cdsnet.net (gp-pm2-26.dip.cdsnet.net [204.118.246.98]) by mail.cdsnet.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA09705 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 01:49:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 01:49:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703040949.BAA09705@mail.cdsnet.net> X-Sender: gayleell@mail.cdsnet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: braswell@pbmo.net From: gayleell@cdsnet.net (Gayle Ellison) Subject: Broadcast letter Could you send this out as a broadcast query? Does anyone have any information where this William L. Braswell in Georgia came from? 1794 Washington Co. Fifth REgiment Dragoons (American Militia in the Frontier Wars, 1790-1796 by Murtie June Clark, GPC 1990. 1794-95 Washington Co. legal ads & notices Universal Gazette, Augusta Chronicle 9/4/1809 Jackson County. William L. Braziel, deceased. Wife may be Sarah Brazeal (with 5 children who then married John Lambert from Rowan County). George Headen was issued Letters of Administration (Ordinary & Minutes, Georgia Testate REcords). Gayle Braswell Ellison gayleell@cdsnet.net From ???@??? Tue Mar 04 08:16:16 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA21667 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 08:09:21 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 4 Mar 1997 07:09:03 -0700 Resent-Date: 4 Mar 1997 07:09:03 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 07:57:01 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970304075700_1182396826@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@genealogy.org cc: rof@backporch.com, gayleell@cdsnet.net Subject: Re: Courtney L. BRASWELL Resent-Message-ID: <"uZr-H.0.Vi7.zp27p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org Reply-To: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/404 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Dear Karen, There is nothing authentic in print on the Braswell family in early England or America. Anything claiming to be such--as those bogus "family history" things you get in your mail--should be classified under Fiction. Should anyone be interested in tracing their Braswell ancestry, I'm sure our Web Meister, Keith Braswell, will bid them welcome. In order to get immediate help with it, one must trace his lineage back beyond the Civil War, preferably at least to the time of the Census of 1790--usually a fairly straightforward task if one avails themselves of published resources. Sorry, but genealogy, especially on this family, is one of those things that rarely satisfies our American expectations of "instant gratification"! CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Tue Mar 04 17:08:08 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA03412 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:15:40 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 4 Mar 1997 12:54:59 -0700 Resent-Date: 4 Mar 1997 12:54:59 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:54:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970304145604.2b37b7b8@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: lbarron@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: braswell-l@genealogy.org From: Lucy Barron Subject: Re: Courtney L. BRASWELL Resent-Message-ID: <"CPfOn1.0.W-1.Iu77p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org Reply-To: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/405 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Assuming s/he (?) is still alive, here is what shows up on the URL for Switchboard: BRASWELL, Courtney 9950 Lockland Rd. Cincinnati, OH 45215-1753 (513) 563-2751 Of course, it may not be who you are looking for. If the person is deceased, you should be able to verify this from the Social Security Death Indexes (usu. available at your local Family History (LDS) Library). Lucy Barron Lexington, MA At 08:30 PM 3/3/97 -0600, you wrote: >We are looking for any information on Courtney L BRASWELL, born to Elijah >Thomas and Julia Chrischany LAY. He was born 25 April 1902, died 20 Jan. >1963. He was married to Dorothy ? He was born in Paucah, KY and lived his >adult years around the St. Louis, Mo area. We have lost track of him. > >Also I am looking for a nice Braswell book for a gift to my Mother in law. >I know I read a lot of talk about books in the archives but can't seem to >find them quickly. I would like a book on the Early Braswell's in the USA >or in England. It can be mostly history, this will probably not be used >for serious research. Thank you. Karen > > From ???@??? Tue Mar 04 21:19:31 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA13142 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:58:34 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 4 Mar 1997 16:33:28 -0700 Resent-Date: 4 Mar 1997 16:33:28 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:33:08 -0500 (EST) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970304183153_380165647@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: SSDI Resent-Message-ID: <"Mm549.0.nx1.85B7p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org Reply-To: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/406 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org There is a Social Security Death Index site on the web at - http://206.27.137.18/ssdi/ You can do a "Simple" or "Advanced" search. Foy Braswell From ???@??? Tue Mar 04 23:07:14 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA10822 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:03:18 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 4 Mar 1997 21:49:25 -0700 Resent-Date: 4 Mar 1997 21:49:25 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 22:48:58 -0600 Message-Id: <199703050448.WAA08968@vigil.pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org From: braswell@pbmo.net (Keith Braswell) Subject: Re: HELP! Resent-Message-ID: <"dmSN2.0.Ne6.LjF7p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org Reply-To: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/407 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Carey, Ask and you shall receive! Morgan_Hawk@msn.com (Joyce Hetrick) LBarron@fas.harvard.edu (Lucy Barron) FoyBrasw@aol.com (Foy Braswell) Here is a hint.... Use your mouse to select the address when you add it to your address book. While you are viewing this message take your mouse and put the cursor on the M on Morgan and push the left mouse button and hold it down as you drag it across the address. When you have it to the m on .com let go. You should have selected Morgan_Hawk@msn.com and it will be a reverse color of what you normally see. Then, with your left hand hold down the Ctrl key (bottom right of keyboard on most) and then tap the C key while the Ctrl is held down. This copies the selected text to your clipboard (memory) Then when you go to your address book and make and entry. Where it asks for the email address click your mouse on that field. (I am not sure how your address book works...) Anyway, when ever you get to the place where you would normally type in the address hold the Ctrl (control) key with your left hand again and tap the V key to paste what you formally copied with the Control C sequence. This keeps you from making any mistakes in the addresses when you type them in. As you get familiar with it you will find yourself using it all the time. I use it for everything. If I see a URL in a message that I want to view in my browser I copy and paste it. If you already know how to do all this please ignore my message. Maybe someone else on the List can make use of the information. Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Oops! I got carried away with the control v there! Keith At 10:44 PM 3/4/97 -0500, CBracewell@aol.com wrote: >Dear Cousins, > > Would SOMEONE P-L-E-A-S-E give me the E-mail address for Joyce Hetrek, >Lucy, & Foy Braswell! I'm besieged by Daemons and missed communications! >:D :) :) > >CAREY BRACEWELL CBracewell@aol.com > > David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Wed Mar 05 00:32:02 1997 Received: from emout20.mail.aol.com (emout20.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.46]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA14406 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:43:25 -0600 From: BettyMaeS@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id AAA16633 for braswell@pbmo.net; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 00:42:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 00:42:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970305004252_-870269623@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Braswell - Toole MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0.29972.emout20.mail.aol.com.857540572" Content-ID: <0_29972_857540572@emout20.mail.aol.com.82171> Content-type: text/plain Here is a file attahed i think you will like...BettyMaeS@aol.com file name is Toole99.txt....Betty Content-ID: <0_29972_857540572@emout20.mail.aol.com.82172> Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="TOOLE99.TXT" Attachment Converted: C:\INTERNET\KBMAIL\TOOLE99.TXT From ???@??? Thu Mar 06 00:03:10 1997 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA23042 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:56:42 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA03643 for braswell@pbmo.net; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 21:55:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 21:55:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970305212146_207994772@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Fwd: My Braswell lines --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Re: My Braswell lines Date: 97-03-05 19:58:16 EST From: CBracewell To: rof@backporch.com CC: gayleell@cdsnet.net,Foy Brasw Dear Cousin Nona, I've just finished d/l the wonderful Williams and Braswell material you so graciously copied me! And guess what? You have one I didn't, the 1720 "Roanoke" NC Tax List items for VAL & JACOB BRASSEL. Were they together or widely separate on the list? We already knew VAL was in the Roanoke valley, starting in the summer of 1715. The earliest record I had of JACOB was three years later in 1723 when he patented land on Morattock River next to his brother RICHARD. This obviously helps refine further our understanding of these important brothers perigrinations! So nice to catch up on findings since the 70's! By the way, what is the reference citation on that Roanoke tax list? (Just a little information for our files.... LOL) You're right about George Gwilliam being a Williams; subsequent records prove it, as if it were needed. Yes, the Williams-Braswell connection is an enigma, so beautifully embodied by you, Cuz! :D And it looks like it was imported from mother England! I'm still going to find out which Samuel Williams helped my gang pioneer Saline County, Arkansas! Did you know Williams is the third most common surname in America? Most people wouldn't think of that till they started researching it, right? Can you name the top five in order? SMITH, JOHNSON, WILLIAMS, JONES, BROWN. The next 5? Glad you asked: MILLER, DAVIS, ANDERSON, WILSON, & THOMPSON. (top 216 list, which Braswell didn't make, LOL) Some time when your really needing a boost, I'll share the sad story of bastard badboy, NOEL WILLIAMS-BRASWELL who fell into bad company in pre-Revolutionary Orange County. He was hanged eight days after his conviction. I will reread your VERY interesting Williams account. It all seems so FAMILIAR,if You ya know what I mean. I wonder if there are "twin flame" families? You could prove it by you, too! LOL As soon as my replacement colonial maps get here, I'll dive headlong into your double pedigree (but I may take scuba gear and lighting--sure gets murky along Pig Basket Creek and the Tar Valley! :D)...... CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Fri Mar 07 08:00:21 1997 Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA04380 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 21:42:40 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA07897; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:41:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:41:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970306223928_107475168@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net cc: rof@backporch.com, FoyBrasw@aol.com Subject: Ancestry of Marmaduke Braswell Dear Cousin Keith, To the task of reexamining all Halifax records before 1800, I would add to your research list the records of Bute County, whose records will be found under Bute or Warren. Bute only existed 15 years--1764-1779. It was named for an unpopular English politician and abolished in 1779 after the Revolution was underway. Franklin & Warren counties were created from it, and the records, for the most part, went to Warren. The value of the two records I found under Bute will be immediately obvious: Bute Will Book 2, page 178: In the probate proceedings held in Bute November Court, 1777, the estate of JACOB POWELL, deceased, mentions a WILLIAM BRACEWELL/BRASWELL as a purchaser of estate goods. Also mentioned were HARDY STRICKLAND, RICHARD POPE, SAMPSON POWELL, RICHARD SMITH, & REUBEN WILLIAMS. We need the full text of this document, and this one too: Warren Deed Book 3, page 209: JACOB BRASSELL sold JACOB POWELL 180 acres on both sides of Tar River. This appears to be the same land JACOB patented in 1750 on Cypress Creek near WILLIAM BRASWELL's old plantation. Two other deeds in the Bertie-Edgecombe files showed WILLIAM STRICKLAND & another having land dealings with heirs of said WILLIAM BRASWELL (c,1676-1721). My VALENTINE also patented land on Cypress Creek, but he was pioneering Orange County by 1746. We know your JAMES didn't belong to VAL; WILLIAM may prove to be your link with the Immigrant. The answer should tell itself when all the data is in. CAREY From ???@??? Fri Mar 07 21:51:13 1997 To: CBracewell@aol.com From: braswell@pbmo.net (Keith Braswell) Subject: Re: Ancestry of Marmaduke Braswell Cc: rof@backporch.com, FoyBrasw@aol.com Bcc: X-Attachments: Dear Carey, Being the greenhorn that I am I don't remember this Bute County. Thanks for bringing it into the picture. I am saving all of your messages and the next time I get to the library I am going to take printed copies of them. I wish I had a notebook computer. That would make it too easy though huh? Do you use a computer program to enter your data? I use Family Tree for windows. Saving myself looking it up and being lazy that I am sitting here reading your message, what does patented refer to when concerning property? I went to our community College the other day and printed out copies of the LDS records on Braswell's in NC. I haven't had time to look at them but maybe there is something there that will stick out. Do you have copies of this will book or are you refering to notes of when you looked at it before? Have you traveled around documenting these things for yourself or have you been able to find them in books? It seems that you have a library in your house or something the way you come up with this information! Maybe you just have a Pentium 500Mhz brain... I have been working on my web pages these past few days. They will be ready to publish in a couple of more days. Be looking for your page to be one of them... Keith From ???@??? Fri Mar 07 18:51:14 1997 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA15094 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 14:19:38 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA15412; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:18:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:18:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970307151830_-1573373914@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net cc: rof@backporch.com, FoyBrasw@aol.com Subject: Re: Lineage of Marmaduke Braswell Dear Cousin Keith, Yes, I believe my forwarding problems are solved, thanks. Another thought occured to me today concerning your Halifax connection: Except for JOHN BRACEWELL, who stayed behind in Isle of Wight, all of RICHARD's sons went to North Carolina. Of these, all first settled in the vicinity of present Rich Square in Northampton County after the Tuscarora War (1713-1714.) In the 1720's they all migrated to the vicinity of Tarboro in Edgecombe, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WILLIAM, who died in 1721. It would stand to reason that his kids wouldn't feel the same urge to move to Tar Valley/Pig Basket Creek with their cousins whose families were still intact. Coupled with the STRICKLAND connections with known members of WILLIAM's family, the evidence pointing to this first "Bill Braswell" is mounting..... From ???@??? Fri Mar 07 18:51:16 1997 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA25495 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:55:19 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA14660; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 18:54:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 18:54:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970307185402_-1908287808@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: rof@backporch.com cc: braswell@pbmo.net, gayleell@cdsnet.net Subject: "Those WILLIAMS'!" Dear Cousin Nona, First of all, I hope you don't mind my addressing you "Cousin".....years of habit & I think it helps remind us of all we share...... I would love to have your Williams' files--and in time, I trust I will--but right now my head is spinning with Bracewells. You see you've got me so pumped now that I went ahead and plowed into North Carolina anyway. Wow! I impressed myself with the collection--primarily aimed, of course, at establishing my own lineage which ultimately led to the ever-elusive VALENTINE (c.1692-1766) and his "shadow son", RICHARD (c.1723-1800). The most efficient approach to partially untangling the Braswells & Williams' (notice I said "partially"! LOL), it seems to me, would be to identify the Williams' by their associations with the Braswells. This was your suggestion, I believe, and a good one. Unfortunately, I do not have a North Carolina index for families other than Braswells. That's another helpful piece of work for someone with better eyesight than mine {I have had to s. buckle operations on my eyes. Retina detachment was introduced into our DNA by a wealthy great-grandmother. The disease skipped two generations to hit me, adding confirmation to what I already knew about our souls' connection} The payoff for whoever does it is, of course, a complete set of my North Carolina files. I have to budget my reading time now. I ran across the sad NOEL WILLIAMS alias BRASSWELL case. It was more terse than I remembered, but chilling all the same. The citation: WILMINGTON DISTRICT SUPERIOR COURT, MINUTES, OCT. 1760-NOV. 1783 (D.C.R. 12.001), State Archives, Raleigh. page 133 (June 1, 1768) The court consisted of "The Honble. Harton Howard Esquire Chief Justice" and associate justices "The Honble Manrow Moore Esq." and "The Honble Richd Henderson, Esq," and a jury of 12. On this day RICHARD SEYMORE and then" NOEL WILLIAMS alias NOEL BRASSWELL" were tried on an unspecified felony and both found guilty. Prosecution witnesses, the "Evidences sworn", were JAMES & SUSANNAH KENNEDY, and JOSEPH KIRKLAND, who had brought these boys back from South Carolina to where they had fled. The Seamores were neighbors of the Bracewells in Orange County.. The jury contained 12 men from the Wilmington area with no apparent connection with the defendants. After this bit of work, "Then the Court adjourned till 10 oClock tomorrow morning." On Thursday, June 2, "The court met accord'g to adjournmt" and proceeded then to try "NOEL WILLIAMS alias NOEL BRASWELL, THOMAS SEAMORE & RICHARD SEAMORE'' on charges of "Horse stealing". Defendants of course pled not guilty, but anyway the "Jury fined the Defendt Guilty & that he had no land &c" in each case. The defense lawyer played his last card when "Wm HOOPER Council for the deft. moved for an Arrest of Judgment. Motion overruled--" page 136 "The Prisoner NOEL WILLIAMS being arraign'd pleaded not guilty whereupon a Jury was impanneld & Sworn who upon their oath say that the said Prisoner NOEL WILLIAMS otherwise called NOEL BRACEWELL is guilty of the Felony whereof he stands charged in the Indictment and that the said Prisoner had no Lands or tenements Goods or Chattels at the time of the Commiting the Felony or at any time since to their Knowledge upon which the Prisoner being again brought to the bar the Court Proceeded to pass Sentence upon the Prisoner in manner following. To Wit that he shall be taken from the Bar to the place from whence he came & from thence to the place of Execution there to be hanged by the Neck until he should be dead and that the Sherriff should do Execution of the said Sentence on Friday the Tenth day of this Instant June between the hours of Eleven and Two" (Likewise, immediately following the above and in exactly the same words--the death sentence was passed on the SEAMOREs. I havn't a clue which Braswell got which Williams with poor Noel--the name meant "cause of sorrow'', usually given to bastards. Be careful what you name 'em, right? LOL Most of the Orange -Chatham records refer to the family of HENRY BRACEWELL, son of VALENTINE (c.1692). His family resisted going Baptist (Cf. their participation in the Regulator Riots that just preceeded these trials) and kept the records colorful for some time. HENRY's branch also supplied the most Georgia immigrants. My RICHARD (c.1723-1800) was poorer & quieter than his more flamboyant brother, HENRY, and their tribe, further evidence along with their espousal of the radical new Baptist faith that RICHARD's "Obedience" was indeed a Quaker.) CAREY From ???@??? Sat Mar 08 09:45:55 1997 Received: from legend.txdirect.net (root@legend.txdirect.net [204.57.120.1]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA01687 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:58:04 -0600 Received: from birch295 (dtp01-09.txdirect.net [204.57.92.233]) by legend.txdirect.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id IAA25298 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:58:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199703081458.IAA25298@legend.txdirect.net> From: "Guy Braswell" To: Subject: Page update Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:55:14 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Keith, You should be getting a few things snail mail from me. I just checked out the new page update, looks great. I was looking for the archives, did I miss them? They are really great for the newcomers to read to get some history. We would never have known about our relationship if we had not seen the descendent list you had posted on there. I'd like to see more lists and charts of others as well. If you don't receive any snail mail from me, drop me a line. Karen Braswell From ???@??? Sat Mar 08 19:06:48 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA23786 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 17:59:27 -0600 From: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 8 Mar 1997 16:59:12 -0700 Date: 8 Mar 1997 16:59:11 -0700 Message-ID: <19970308165911.29580.qmail@genealogy.emcee.com> Subject: braswell-l Digest V97 #1 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/volume97/1 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Content-Type: text/plain braswell-l Digest Volume 97 : Issue 1 Today's Topics: Re: HELP! The World Book of Bracewells?? US Gen Web Broadcast letter RE: RICHARD BRACEWELL & CHARITY SCARBOROUGH RE: Your message to the Braswell-List. Carey Bracewell Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:00:48 -0800 From: "Nona Williams" To: Subject: Re: HELP! Message-Id: <199703051700.JAA31768@ico.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keith, I was on AOL for a while and their mailer didn't work very well which might be why Carey is having problems. I'm posting this to the list because it might be helpful for other AOL users too. Apparently AOL won't let you send a message to more than a single Internet address per message although you can send one message to multiple AOL addresses. Also you cannot send a message to both an AOL member and to an Internet address. It won't work to try and put one of the addresses in the CC: box either. To make it worse, AOL doesn't tell you about this so when your messages bounce you don't have a clue why. This is just one reason, I left AOL and am now using a direct Internet connection. -Nona ---------- > From: Keith Braswell > To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org > Subject: Re: HELP! > Date: Tuesday, March 04, 1997 8:48 PM > > Carey, > > Ask and you shall receive! > > Morgan_Hawk@msn.com (Joyce Hetrick) > LBarron@fas.harvard.edu (Lucy Barron) > FoyBrasw@aol.com (Foy Braswell) > > Here is a hint.... Use your mouse to select the address when you add it to > your address book. While you are viewing this message take your mouse and > put the cursor on the M on Morgan and push the left mouse button and hold it > down as you drag it across the address. When you have it to the m on .com > let go. You should have selected Morgan_Hawk@msn.com and it will be a > reverse color of what you normally see. Then, with your left hand hold down > the Ctrl key (bottom right of keyboard on most) and then tap the C key while > the Ctrl is held down. This copies the selected text to your clipboard > (memory) Then when you go to your address book and make and entry. Where > it asks for the email address click your mouse on that field. (I am not > sure how your address book works...) Anyway, when ever you get to the place > where you would normally type in the address hold the Ctrl (control) key > with your left hand again and tap the V key to paste what you formally > copied with the Control C sequence. This keeps you from making any mistakes > in the addresses when you type them in. As you get familiar with it you > will find yourself using it all the time. I use it for everything. If I > see a URL in a message that I want to view in my browser I copy and paste > it. If you already know how to do all this please ignore my message. Maybe > someone else on the List can make use of the information. > > Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and > pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy > copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! > Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and > pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy > copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! > Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and > pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy > copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! > Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! Many happy copy and > pastes! Many happy copy and pastes! > > Oops! I got carried away with the control v there! > > Keith > > At 10:44 PM 3/4/97 -0500, CBracewell@aol.com wrote: > >Dear Cousins, > > > > Would SOMEONE P-L-E-A-S-E give me the E-mail address for Joyce Hetrek, > >Lucy, & Foy Braswell! I'm besieged by Daemons and missed communications! > >:D :) :) > > > >CAREY BRACEWELL CBracewell@aol.com > > > > > > David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 > 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ > Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:14:33 -0800 From: "Randy Bracewell" To: "Braswell Genealogy" Subject: The World Book of Bracewells?? Message-Id: <199703062315.RAA14804@dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I received a letter from some people in Bath, Ohio that claim they have a Heirloom Edition Bracewell Directory "virtually handmade to order" for $34.50 . Does anyone know if this is a scam or something? I remember a few months ago that you were all saying bad things about something similar to this, but I don't remember all the details of that discussion. If anyone has an input I would appreciate it. The only company name in all the papers was "Publisher: Halbert's, Bath, OH 44210". Thanks. Randy Bracewell Bremerton, WA, USA For those of you who haven't found it yet, the US Genealogy Web is a great research tool. It's URL is - http://www.usgenweb.com/ >From there, you can click on the state you want and check out the goodies. From the state, you can go to the individual county you are interested in. Each one of these has a sponsor and you can e-mail queries, read queries, register as a research, etc. One of the best is the Isle of Wight Co, VA which has an excellent history of the county (first settlers on 27 June 1619). I have have only looked in VA-NC-TN. When I came across Braswell researchers, I have e-mailed them and told them about the Braswell net. This has drawn several new-comers to the net. I have also met 2 new cousins this way. Keith - I would suggest that you register the Braswell net with states/counties concerned. Usually, you can register on multiple counties from the state page. Several of our members are already registered as individuals. If this is too much trouble for you, authorize us to do it as we come across a state or county where we aren't registered. Foy Braswell Foy Brasw@aol.com Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 12:18:45 -0600 From: braswell@pbmo.net (Keith Braswell) To: Braswell-L@Genealogy.Org (Braswell List) Subject: Broadcast letter Message-Id: <199703071818.MAA01410@vigil.pbmo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Forwarding this for Gayle... ---------- Original Message Starts Here. ---------- Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 01:49:47 -0800 (PST) To: braswell@pbmo.net From: gayleell@cdsnet.net (Gayle Ellison) Subject: Broadcast letter Could you send this out as a broadcast query? Does anyone have any information where this William L. Braswell in Georgia came from? 1794 Washington Co. Fifth REgiment Dragoons (American Militia in the Frontier Wars, 1790-1796 by Murtie June Clark, GPC 1990. 1794-95 Washington Co. legal ads & notices Universal Gazette, Augusta Chronicle 9/4/1809 Jackson County. William L. Braziel, deceased. Wife may be Sarah Brazeal (with 5 children who then married John Lambert from Rowan County). George Headen was issued Letters of Administration (Ordinary & Minutes, Georgia Testate REcords). Gayle Braswell Ellison gayleell@cdsnet.net ---------- Original Message Ends Here. ---------- David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net Dear Theresa, Just wanted to update you on the latest. I got a copy of an article about the Bracewells written in 1879 by WB BRACEWELL abot the family. It clearly states that MY Richard was Sampson's brother. It also states that my James was son of Richard and when and where he was born and mini biography. Carey Bracewell sent me the copy of thea rticle fromFlanigan's History of Gwinnett Co., GA Vol 1 pg 323-6, GS 075.322 H2f Anyway, I just wanted to say how much I appreciated the help you gave me, and will add your data to the article's and have a pretty complete picture of my Bracewells. Gosh, this has been almost "too easy" I can't believe I got so lucky! Haven't had a major find in months (years?) Thanks for helping me out! I really really REALLY appreciate it! e u later Joyce ---------- From: Theresa M. Reynolds Sent: Sunday, March 02, 1997 3:05 AM To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: Re: RICHARD BRACEWELL & CHARITY SCARBOROUGH MORGAN HETRICK wrote: > > My ancestor is RICHARD BRACEWELL, born probably before 1774, married Charity > Scarborough and their son, JAMES born 5 June 1794 at Allen's Fort,Warren > County, GA was my ancestor. I do not know the names of any other children of > RICHARD and Charity. > JAMES was in Morgan Co., GA by 1820 when he married Elizabeth Butler, and he > died 12 Dec 1875 in Gwinnett Co. Ga. > The children of JAMES & ELIZABETH WERE: > WILLIAM BUTLER BRACEWELL b. 1822 Lawrenceville, Gwinnett Co GA (married > Martha Martin, dtr of Absolom) [My ancestors] > James R. Bracewell, Julia, Richard W. (b 1831) Sarah Amanda, Frances E., > Nancy Jane, Samuel T. Henry H., Lucinda Caroline and Epsey (Essie?) (female), > and Caroline. > I have recently discovered your site and am thrilled that there are others > out there tracing the same line(s). > I am an experienced genealogist (been at it over 30 years) I don't accept > anyone else's research without checking it out--no offense, just that I have > made enough mistakes of my own without adding someone elses' to mine. Group > research is the best I think, because a group is critical of the research not > the researcher. Helps us find our errors and gives us new insight into a > problem. Great way to do things and I will be glad to share references with > any and all. > I was intrigued when I was reading the guest book and came across the > reference to another Bracewell/Scarborough marriage and wondered if possibly > that my Richard had a brother that married a sister or cousin of my Charity? > You all have a wonderful group, I have been reading your "mail" on the > archive and you all sound like great and nice people. > Tell you a little about myself. I am Joyce Hetrick, husband is Morgan > (that's his email I use) and he (semi-retired engineer/test pilot) and me, > still working Registered Nurse Practitioner (cuts into my research time!) live > out in the boonies of Arkansas (snail mail: 288 Heifer Creek Rd. Springfield, > AR 72157 phone 501-354-5025). We raise a few Scots Highland cattle and I do as > much genealogy as you can do when you work 24/7 at one "job" or another! > Spend all my "disposable" income on sending off to archives for copies of > various records. My best friend is a professional genealogist named Desmond > Walls Allen. SHE writes/compiles index books and publishes them, lectures and > writes a newspaper article weekly for our statewide newspaper on genealogy and > keeps me in ideas when I am "up the family tree and can't get down." See her > web page at Arkansas Research. > Keep up the good work and hope I can be of assistance to the group and vice > versa! E U later! Joyce HetrickHello Joyce, Your Richard is probably the brother of my Sampson Bracewell of Laurens County Georgia who married Elizabeth Scarborough, daughter of William Scarborough. I based this on the will of William who names Sampson as an heir. And on land records that give Sampson's wife name as Elizabeth. According to fellow Bracewell researchers, Ray Tarpley and Ron Bracewell, Richard and Charity Scarborough Bracewell had 4 children: James who married Elizabeth Butler, Richard who married first Lucinda Spears and second Ms. Allen, Wiley who married Aggie Doorman, and William who married Elizabeth Stephens. Richard had a second wife, Winnifred Carlisle, and they had 2 sons: Kindred and Allen. My Sampson married Elizabeth Scarborough and they had 5 children: Mary who married Jethro Judson Weaver, Elizabeth who married Reason Spell, William Sampson who married Ridley Hilliard, Eliza who married David McDaniel, and Seabron Asbury who married Roxann A. Wolfe ( my 3 great grandparents ). It is believed, because of age differences in the census, that Sampson married a second time and had several more children. Ray and Ron give Sampson Bracewell and Miss Moore of North Carolina as the parents of my Sampson and your Richard Bracewell. Looking forward to shareing ideas with you, Theresa Dear Keith, just to update you that today I got in the mail a copy of Flanigan's "History of Gwinnett Co., GA Vol 1 pg 323-26, an article written in " 1879 by a Bracewell descendant that details his family history back to "the immigrant" whose name he did not remember, but he remembered that "the immigrant" had two sons Robert and Richard and where he (the immigrant) and " they lived, etc. It clearly takes my line back to The Reverend Robert Bracewell. Since much of this data has been independently confirmed by several other researchers from original documents, I think this is a FIND!!!!! Thanks a million for your list and all the nice people that have been so great to help me with this line! You guys are great! Joyce ---------- From: Keith Braswell Sent: Sunday, March 02, 1997 2:05 AM To: MORGAN HETRICK Cc: braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Your message to the Braswell-List. Joyce, I enjoyed your message that you posted to the List! Thanks for your compliments on the site and I am glad you found the archives of use. I am going to be posting a new file soon that has some really interesting "stuff" in it. Thanks for your family information and I hope that you find more information that is helpful to you. I am pleased to have your experience in genealogy as a part of the list and hope to see you involved in the discussions. Yours for genealogy, Keith Braswell David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net Dear Braswell Cousins, Hi! My interest in our family's history began in 1958 when I was a freshman History major at the University of Texas, Austin. By chance that year I came across an old family Bible which belonged to one RICHARD BRAZIL, who, according to his inscription in the faded flyleaf, "...was borne in the yeare of our lord l759" and went on to say that JEMIMA BRAZIL, "his wife was borne --Dec. 25--in the yeare of our lord 1764" and went on to give their wedding day as May 15, 17__ {probably 1780} None of my kin knew who this guy was...and some even tittered at "Jemima". But my curiosity was aroused, and what began as a hobby seems to have turned into "the never-ending quest", for even now I'm still adding to my collection of Braswelliana. A word about my research methodology: basically scientific, on-site research whenever possible. I followed the suggestions of Doane and other authorities, and still do. My research--except for some odds & ends here in the Southwest--was essentially complete by 1973, the year I had my family's name changed to its original form, BRACEWELL; the year of my little "Braswell Quarterly", and the year my personal & business life took me away from my life's hobby. Since then, I've done little research except answer a few letters. My files are still intact and I am willing to share within certain parameters: (a) that you've done all your "homework" and gathered EVERYTHING on your lineage as far back as you can extend it, and (b) remember that my time and eyesight are both limited. Usually, I can help most if you have your lineage back at least to the first Federal Census of 1790 and the East Coast. Here is my Braswell lineage. Obviously, the later your line diverges from mine, the more I have to offer: CAREY H. BRACEWELL (1936- ) b. Texas Rev. ETHERIDGE C. BRAZIL (1896- ) b. Texas Yes, 100+ & still sharp! Rev. JESSE CALVIN BRAZIL (1865-1951) b. Texas Deacon JESSE BRAZIL (1827-1888) b. Fulton Co., Illinois MOSES BRAZIL (1803-1872) b. Anderson Co., Tennessee RICHARD BRAZIL (1759-1842) b. Orange Co., North Carolina RICHARD BRAZWELL (c.1723-1800) b. Bertie Precinct, North Carolina VALENTINE BRAZWELL (c.1692-c.1766) b. Isle of Wight Co., Virginia RICHARD BRACEWELL (c.1652-c.1725) b. I of W Rev. ROBERT BRACEWELL (1611-1668), b. London, England I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge the help of generations of other Braswell genealogists in assembling my modest collection. Among East Coast pundits, Cousin Bill Fields of "The Meadows" was my favorite mentor and contributor of many rare, original North Carolinian Braswelliana items. The LDS researchers' contributions could not be exaggerated, especially the tireless help of Jessie Wadley and Eunice Young. Pal Spencer in Sioux Falls, an Illinois Brazil descendant, was a good pal and contributed much data and insight. My work is as much a group consensus as anything else! As I said, most of my work was done onsite whereever possible: at the courthouse, in the old cemetery, state archives'...whereever. Then printed sources were used, such as Bodie's history of "Seventeenth Century Isle of Wight County". Some of my work has appeared in print since 1970, not all of it correctly quoted! Yours for fun research, CAREY From ???@??? Sun Mar 09 08:39:44 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA03639 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 00:21:25 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 8 Mar 1997 23:21:17 -0700 Resent-Date: 8 Mar 1997 23:21:17 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 00:20:37 -0600 Message-Id: <199703090620.AAA03525@vigil.pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org (Braswell List) From: braswell@pbmo.net (Keith Braswell) Subject: What's going on... Resent-Message-ID: <"bkqy51.0.5z6.SRb8p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/408 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Dear List members, I had heard some good things about the Digest feature of the List and I had enabled it. However, I don't like how it comes in run together. So, I am switching back. I would rather receive the messages separate and deal with them individually. I hope that you will agree. I hope the switch back doesn't upset the flow of things. If you haven't checked out the changes I have done to The Braswell Family on the www please do so. I think you will like the new additions. http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Yours truly, Keith David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Sun Mar 09 08:39:46 1997 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA24631 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 07:50:09 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA08122; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 08:49:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 08:49:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970309084901_1283663193@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net cc: rof@backporch.com Subject: "Braswell Quarterly" Dear Cousin Keith, I read over the data listed under "Braswell Quarterly" on the webpage and found only minor errors. The typos any intelligent reader can figure out; a couple of errors in fact, which has since (1973) been corrected are: 1. The Julian calendar began on March 21, not 25. 2. The exact date of RICHARD BRAZIL's death is not known, only "c.1842". The November 5th date was the death date of another ancestor, REUBEN GAGE, who died in Saline County on that date (11/5/1842). 3. The daughter listed on the 1790 Census of Greenville District, SC for VALENTINE BRASWELL had to have been MARY ANN ("Polly") who later married ANDRE ST. JEAN, the French furtrapper, in St. Clair County, Illinois Territory, in 1805. 4. The explanation of the 1810 Census of Clear Creek, Randolph Co., Illinois Territory, has GEORGE born in "1872" which was obviously c.1782. 5. The middle name "LIGHT" given to my ggf, JESSE BRAZIL, is bogus, based on accepting the wrong Confederate service record of another, different JESSE BRAZIL who served in the 19th Arkansas Infantry Regiment (our JESSE served in the 2nd Texas Partisan Rangers (cavalry)...... Evidently this summary of my lineage's primary records was one I have Cousin Klute Braswell of Berryville, Arkansas, for use in his book, about 1973. It reflects the state of my research to that point, and is a good introduction to other Braswell researchers to this cousin (CAREY). Thanks for sharing it with the membership! A final note, you asked about "patenting" land: that was the final process of free land aquisition in colonial times. The first step was to get a "warrant" or script for "x" number of acres from the granting authority. Next came the survey (with the names of the "chainbearers" often of family significance). Finally, with all the paperwork and fees in, the land was formerly deeded--or "patented" to the applicant. As often as not these patents represented land speculation rather than actual settlement on the land. After Independence, the Federal Land Office got around speculators somewhat by requiring certain improvements be made on the property before title was granted. CAREY From ???@??? Sun Mar 09 16:37:13 1997 Received: from emout16.mail.aol.com (emout16.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.42]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA27539 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:49:01 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA00286; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:48:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:48:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970309164827_585844277@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: FoyBrasw@aol.com cc: rof@backporch.com, braswell@pbmo.net Subject: The lineage of William Jackson Braswell Dear Cousin (& fellow Texan!)Foy, If you can establish your descent from Jonas & Rion Braswell, I think we're in business: many if not all the Braswell/Brazles in the Wilkes area of northwest North Carolina owe their origin to a "diaspora" of a Baptist sect from Montgomery-Anson county at the outset of the Revolutionary War.I believe your Rion & Jonas are a part of that group. Here is the story: By 1769 a Baptist sect group that included Richard & Obedience Braswell had tired of the Regulator Troubles in Orange County and had moved, as an intact congregation, further west into the wild Piedmont and settled along "the Baptist Fork of Clark's Creek", a tributary to the Little River, in what was then Anson, later Montgomery County. When the Revolutionary War broke out, Richard's elder son, GEORGE (b.c.1750; m. POLLY MORGAN c.1770, Anson) headed back east & rode it out in Moore County. Most, if not all, the rest, including their Baptist allied families, headed northwest to Wilkes County. Some of those of draft age (such as my ggg-gf, RICHARD, 1759-1842) even went into the Wautauga Settlement in "Washington Co., NC/Tennessee" to stay out of the fighting. They were not cowards; many, such as OBEDIENCE {probably of Quaker birth} were conscientious objectors, the dogma of these first, radical Southern Baptists! That they were patriots is proved by the peaceable marriage of RICHARD's daughter, OBEDIENCE ("Jr") to DAVID HALL, a Revolutionary War veteran, on January 20, 1784, in Wilkes County {all this from HALLs Rev pension application} Complicating the research is the distinct possibility that some of HENRY BRAZWELL's brood in Orange-Chatham might have contributed to this Baptist survival commune which was centered on their Meeting House on Reddies River, which is just west of North Wilkesboro, North Carolina.By this time RICHARD & OBEDIENCE had marriageable age children, & some went their separate ways: GEORGE to Moore Co., as mentioned; FREDERICK m. ELIZABETH______& headed for Jackson Co., Georgia, where he expired in 1828.But most of the rest of the kids moved with RICHARD & OBEDIENCE to Greenville District, South Carolina, in 1787 or thereabouts. No doubt there may have been other older sons--JONAS?--who stayed behind in the Wilkes area, too. One BOARDVINE BRAZLE was born c.1799 in nearby Surry County of unknown provenance but almost certainly connected to this Baptist bunch by place and time alone! Not many people had the skills or the stomach for what it took to survive & prosper on that frontier! Here is all I have on Burke County: 1819 1-26 BRAZEL, RION married ANN BEARD. JAMES DAVIS, Bondsman. 1821 5-20 BRAZEL, WILEY married BEADY {"Obedience?"} BARBER. RION BRAZEL, Bondsman. 1835 By this year, WILLIAM JONAS BRASWELL, a "Revolutionary War hero in the North Carolina militia, had died. He had lived in Burke County on Lower Creek, and was buried in Burke, near Crossnore, N.C. He had relatives in Yancey County, N.C." {This was from some "History of Wautauga County", evidently based on JONAS' pension application, and relayed to me by Eunice Young. Sorry I didn't press her for citation on book, but there can't be that many on the subject. I had established my line to Greenville District and was only marginally curious about JONAS. I assume you have all this, right? Alllied families to be treated as "markers" for determining a possible connection with RICHARD & OBEDIENCE's bunch must start with SHEPHERD, whose association with the Baptists and the Bracewells went back to Orange County days. Others from the Anson-Montgomery/Wilkes period included HALL, BUTLER, WHITE, LUCAS,USSERY, possibly STONECIPHER. CAREY From ???@??? Tue Mar 11 00:03:54 1997 Received: from emout01.mail.aol.com (emout01.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.92]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA18104 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 21:59:11 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout01.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA22967; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:58:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:58:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970310225833_-1405763376@emout01.mail.aol.com> To: MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com cc: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Lineage of JAMES BRACEWELL of Gwinnet Co., Georgia Dear Cousin Joyce, Now we can get down to business on this lineage! I've no doubt that the connection with RICHARD BRACEWELL, Jr. (c. 1672-c.1742) will be proved in time. I reread my NC & Ga files looking for easy answers, but of course found none, only tantalizing clues! I will reread certain old correspondence for more information, but suffice to say I'm confident the connection will be established. For one thing, the use of the name "RICHARD'" was found primarily in only two lines, that of this RICHARD and that of his baby brother, VALENTINE (c. 1692-c.1766), which happens to be my line. Following the Gwinnet county history leads, I checked on Burke Co., Ga., for which I have only the land grants, 1768-1803. None were to a RICHARD, but a ROBERT BRASWELL received a State grant of 60 acres in Burke in1789. (SSS-597) I have a few more records for Washington County, including a grant of 287.5 acres to Revolutionary War veteran SAMPSON BRAZILL dated 11/20/1784. A year later, we find an Edgecombe Co., NC deed (Edge DB8-548) in which SAMPSON BRACEWELL of Washington Co., Ga., sold ABNER BRACEWELL of Edgecombe land that was "left to the said SAMPSON BRACEWELL by his father RICHARD BRACEWELL by his last will and testament." Then in 1798 the delinquent tax list for Washington Co. features one RICHARD BRASWELL. I should think a thorough examination of Burke/Washinton/Gwinnet records would be the next order of business..... Its probably more than coincidence that your JAMES had close kinsman named SAMPSON. We can & will untagle this mess, Cuz! Meanwhile, thanks for the interesting letters. I do appreciate your calling my hand about that powderhorn marked "RB"; while it is PROBABLY ancestral, even with the pretty legend to go with it, it isn't PROOF that its ancestral! Part of group dynamics is keeping each other honest, right? LOL CAREY From ???@??? Tue Mar 11 07:32:57 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA07786 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 02:34:01 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 11 Mar 1997 01:34:29 -0700 Resent-Date: 11 Mar 1997 01:34:29 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 02:59:15 PST Subject: Carey & Wm. C. Fields Message-ID: <19970311.033203.11070.0.jameswgreen@juno.com> References: <19970308165911.29580.qmail@genealogy.emcee.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-22 From: jameswgreen@juno.com (James W. Green III) Resent-Message-ID: <"xKibG3.0.TW5.KaH9p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/412 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org >Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 18:27:39 -0500 (EST) >From: CBracewell@aol.com >To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org >Subject: Carey Bracewell > >Dear Braswell Cousins, > ... >I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge the help of generations of >other Braswell genealogists in assembling my modest collection. Among >East Coast pundits, Cousin Bill Fields of "The Meadows" was my >favorite mentor and contributor of many rare, original North >Carolinian Braswelliana items. ... My info on my Carver & Braswell line in NC & VA came from correspondence with Wm. Fields & one visit to his home in Fayetteville, NC in the early 1970s. Is he still alive. He was a portrait artist. >Yours for fun research, CAREY -- James W. Green III / Rt.5, Box 720 / Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA home:803-635-9236 http://emcee.com/~green http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/9389 From ???@??? Tue Mar 11 08:36:49 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA13906 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:39:58 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 11 Mar 1997 06:35:47 -0700 Resent-Date: 11 Mar 1997 06:35:47 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:35:43 -0500 (EST) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970311083542_1216924201@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: The Hanging Resent-Message-ID: <"8WSMu.0.-z.o-L9p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/413 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org I have been corresponding with Alice Douberley (Jonesborough, TN Genealogical Society) about the Allisons of Johnson Co, TN. My great-grandmother was Louisa Allison who married William Jackson Braswell. She passed the info below along to me. The murderers were Braswells and the victims were Allisons. --------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: Allisons Date: 97-03-10 18:16:36 EST From: 105170.2530@compuserve.com (ALICE H. DOUBERLEY) To: FoyBrasw@aol.com (INTERNET:FoyBrasw@aol.com) Foy, from "The Brassell Hanging of Putnam County, Tennessee" by Donald E. Spurlock, I gleaned the following information. Joseph Lewis (Joe) Brassell (also Braswell & Brazel) and his brother George A. (Teek) Brassell murdered John J. & Russell Allison on November 1875 in Putnam Co., Tenn. Joe & Teek were the sons of Edbert, b. ca. 1816 in N.C. (Edbert was accused of raping his daughter, Tennessee, but the charges were dropped) and Mary P. Brassell, b. ca. 1829 in Tenn. They had children: Tennessee, F, b. ca. 1848 Tenn. William, b. ca. 1844, Tenn. Reuben J. (James/Jim), b. ca. 1845, Tenn.; m. Harriet Z. Zachariah T., b. ca. 1851, Ky. Luiza, b. ca. 1853, Ky. (These 2 may have) Joseph, b. ca. 1853, Ky. ( been twins ) George A. (Teek), b. ca. 1855, Ky. Amanda, b. ca. 1857, Tenn. (This was from the 1860 census of Dixon Springs, Smith Co., Tenn.) Samuel (Buck), b. ca. 1862, Tenn. (From the 1870 census of 7th Civil Dist. (Gentry Community, Baxter), Putnam Co., Tenn.) It would seem that Joe, Teek, prob. Jim, and another decided to rob a man carrying a lot of money who was suppose to spend the night at Russell Allison's step-mother's house. The man didn't get there that night, but Joe, et. al., came, demanded to be let in and fed. Russell went to the door, let them in, and was shot. He died the next day claiming who shot him. His brother, John, went with the posse to capture the killers, and was himself shot and died 25 hours after Russell. There was some question about whether Teek really did either of the shootings. He & Joe were hanged in 1878 - the only public hanging in Putnam County. Joe admitted to the killing, but Teek died claiming his innocence. It has been speculated that he took the "rap" for his sister Amanda, who was at the hanging. Their brother Jim claimed he did the killing when he was dying. Russell & John were the sons of Joseph Allison, and brothers of William & Joseph Allison. Joseph, Sr., had married 2nd Angeline ?, and they had a house with a dog trot separating the two sections. The section not used by the family was often used by travelers. After Joseph died, Angeline m. James Isbell. His son, W.J. Isbell, was the Tax Collector for Putnam County and was the man who was carrying so much money, and who the Brassells had intended to kill. I thought this was pretty interesting. I'm afraid, though, I still wasn't able to identify any of the Allisons that you listed. Are these Brassells related? Alice From ???@??? Tue Mar 11 17:51:00 1997 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com (emout04.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.95]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA03744 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:46:04 -0600 From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA02049; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:40:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:40:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970311164024_1183250471@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell@pbmo.net cc: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: US Gen Web Project I have selected the following states for inclusion of the Braswell Family homepage: AL-AR-FL-GA-LA-MO-MIS-NC-OK-SC-TN-TX-VA. There is very little uniformity. Some states do not have "Surname Registers" so I am emailing a "HELP" message to them. Anyway, I'll keep on it and keep everyone posted. The current status is: Submitted: AL - GA - MO - TX - VA Kicked Back: AR - TN No Register: FL - LA - MS - NC - SC Out of Order: OK As they say on the TV ads - "But wait, that's not all. You also get the genealogy of President Bill Clinton on the Arkansas Gen Web Page." Foy Braswell FoyBrasw@aol.com From ???@??? Thu Mar 13 21:28:27 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA17446 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 05:38:08 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 11 Mar 1997 20:19:07 -0700 Resent-Date: 11 Mar 1997 20:19:07 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 20:43:56 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970311204037_-1606474570@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: Re: Carey & Wm. C. Fields Resent-Message-ID: <"YZvDb1.0.Xb3.g2Y9p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/415 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Dear Cousin James, Yes, indeed Bill Fields is still alive and kicking at his home "The Meadows" near Fayetteville. I had not talked with him in some time--in fact I got his # off Switchboard: William C. Fields Route 23 Fayetteville, NC 28301-9809 Bill is ANCIENT now--he was my mentor in Southern colonial research & I was 60 last November--but he's still very active: has four portraits on the easel now & is helping compile & publish early Cumberland deeds. W From ???@??? Thu Mar 13 21:28:29 1997 Received: from emout16.mail.aol.com (emout16.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.42]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA22134 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:27:46 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA17767; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:27:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:27:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970312092712_-1137408114@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com cc: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: James Bracewell of Gwinnet Co., Georgia Dear Cousin Joyce, I talked to my old friend & mentor, Bill Fields of Fayetteville at length last night and he was of the opinion that your JAMES may connect through RICHARD BRACEWELL "III", the legitimate son RICHARD "II" had by wife, ELINOR. This 3rd-in-a-row RICHARD made his will in Edgecombe 12/7/1767 naming sons SAMPSON, SOLOMON, RICHARD, JAMES, & WILLIAM;wife ELIZABETH, & daughters SARAH, MARY, & ELIZABETH. THOMAS BRYANT, a witness to the will,is thought to be a kinsman to the widow ELIZABETH, who was probably a BRYANT (not ELINOR, RICHARD II's lawful wife and presumed mother to this RICHARD). RICHARD "IV" and some of his brothers--including SAMPSON--ventured further west into Johnston County, then some into Anson. From there, following the Piedmont down into Georgia would be a natural progression. I think your Bracewell pedigree may prove to be: Rev. ROBERT (1611-1668) RICHARD (c.1652-1725) RICHARD (c.1672-c.1742) RICHARD (c.1705-c.1767) RICHARD (c.1735-18__) died in Georgia; brother to SAMPSON JAMES Is that enough RICHARDs BRACEWELL for you? :) I'll put together what I have on this line and mail it to you. As you saw from yesterday's mail, I'm trying to get James Green in on this. He is another descendant of RICHARD II by ANN CARVER and may be able to help. Bill Fields is too old to bother about this. Some of his other friends are trying to prevail upon him to publish what he knows about the Braswells, which would be a blessing to us all! You mentioned SUSANNAH BRACEWELL's receipt of 400 pounds of tobacco "commodity money" for looking after the wife of JOHN COLLINS, Sr. in Isle of Wight in October, 1694 (DB 1, Orders, 1693-1795, p. 51). Yes, I am very familiar with this. COLLINS' wife, MARY, was SUSANNAH's mother whom COLLINS evidently beat severely. Not to take sides, but mother & daughters' contentious natures (as shown elsewhere by cutting people out of their wills, etc.) may well explain why ROBERT, Jr. skidaddled over to Nansemond (a burned out county) where he evidently died w/o issue, coming back to I of W only to give "wife" SUSANNAH power of attorney to settle any old debts. He may have returned to England--who knows? All this will be fully documented when Keith shares my "Braswell Quarterly" with the membership. CAREY From ???@??? Thu Mar 13 21:28:31 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA05615 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:42:52 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 12 Mar 1997 00:07:28 -0700 Resent-Date: 12 Mar 1997 00:07:28 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-ID: <33263806.1333@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 20:58:46 -0800 From: Randy Bracewell Reply-To: wbracewe@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: The World Book of Bracewells Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"b_N7g2.0.d52.lOb9p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/416 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Hello Again Braswell List, I decided to re-post my inquiry on the World Book of Bracewells, because I don't think it got delivered correctly: I got a letter in the mail from Bath, Ohio trying to sell me a "valuable and extensive international directory of Bracewells". What's the scoop? I remember you folks talking bad about something similar to this a while back. Is this worth $34.50 plus $4.88 postage and handling? Any feedback would be appreciated. Randy Bracewell -- "Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution. It represents the wise choice of many alternatives." - Will A. Foster Randy Bracewell Bremerton, Washington From ???@??? Thu Mar 13 21:28:32 1997 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA26821 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:04:36 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA03684; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:02:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:02:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970312150234_1425797337@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net cc: FoyBrasw@aol.com, rof@backporch.com Subject: Re: The Hanging Dear Cousin Foy, Thank you for the interesting murder scandal from Putnam Co., Tennessee, November, 1875. Although spiritual leadership is a theme in many branches, not all our honored ancestors were candidates for sainthood, were they? Its interesting what all we've gotten involved in since 1649, isn't it? A Bracewell killed Pat Garrett, the sheriff who killed Billy the Kid. And in that same state (NM), it was on a Bracewell's ranch near Roswell where that flying saucer allegedly crashed in 1947. Weird enough for you, Cuz? LOL From ???@??? Thu Mar 13 21:28:33 1997 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA29477 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:27:08 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA02131; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:26:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:26:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970312152531_-1137383377@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com cc: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: The ancestry of JAMES BRACEWELL of Gwinnet Co., Georgia Dear Cousin Joyce, I've assembled a 65-page packet of documents and informed comentary on your RICHARDs BRACEWELL to go in the morning mail. No doubt your understanding of this probable connection with the Immigrant will be much better after having studied same. You will appreciate the great debt we all owe Bill Fields (WCF) of Fayetteville after you see how many documents were lovingly copied and analyzed by him. This was, of course, his line of descent--as far as Richard II anyway. My own line--and primary interest in Edgecombe--deflects west after 1746 when my VALENTINE, RICHARD I's "baby brother" (b.c.1692) lit out for some Granville speculating in Orange County. N.B. that the VALENTINE whose real estate dealings are mentioned in the Johnston County section of my materials belongs with this Orange County bunch. CAREY From ???@??? Thu Mar 13 21:28:34 1997 Received: from ico.com (psycho2.iconetworks.net [204.94.129.66]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA18421 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:29:03 -0600 Received: from Pbackporch (rof.backporch.com [204.94.137.76]) by ico.com (8.8.5/8.8.2/103196) with ESMTP id OAA16261; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:28:09 -0800 Message-Id: <199703122228.OAA16261@ico.com> From: "Nona Williams" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: The Hanging Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:28:04 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have another item to add to the list of Braswell scandals although this one occurred in the Williams family in DeKalb Co., Tennessee (remember that these Williams men married Braswell women). Anyhow there was a murder on Williams property and the person convicted was a slave belonging to William Williams. This case set a precedent for murder convictions using circumstantial evidence. Keith Hayes who has posted to this list a couple of times got a copy of the case as cited in law books some time ago from an attorney friend of his. -Nona ---------- > From: CBracewell@aol.com > To: braswell@pbmo.net > Cc: FoyBrasw@aol.com; rof@backporch.com > Subject: Re: The Hanging > Date: Wednesday, March 12, 1997 12:02 PM > > Dear Cousin Foy, > Thank you for the interesting murder scandal from Putnam Co., Tennessee, > November, 1875. Although spiritual leadership is a theme in many branches, > not all our honored ancestors were candidates for sainthood, were they? > > Its interesting what all we've gotten involved in since 1649, isn't it? A > Bracewell killed Pat Garrett, the sheriff who killed Billy the Kid. And in > that same state (NM), it was on a Bracewell's ranch near Roswell where that > flying saucer allegedly crashed in 1947. Weird enough for you, Cuz? LOL From ???@??? Thu Mar 13 21:28:42 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA26679 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 02:04:27 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 12 Mar 1997 15:31:10 -0700 Resent-Date: 12 Mar 1997 15:31:10 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <199703122230.OAA16676@ico.com> From: "Nona Williams" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: US Gen Web Project Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:30:44 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ecdz51.0.VO6.jwo9p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/419 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org There was also a story in the news a couple of years ago about a young man named Braswell (in a southern state) who appeared as a defendant in a case, but was evicted from the courthouse because he was wearing a T-shirt with a slogan that offended the judge. I wish I could remember more of the details but that's all I can recall. -Nona ---------- > From: CBracewell@aol.com > To: braswell-l@genealogy.org > Cc: MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com; rof@backporch.com > Subject: Re: US Gen Web Project > Date: Wednesday, March 12, 1997 12:08 PM > > Dear Cousin Foy, > Kudos on the US GenWeb project! Can't wait to see Clinton's pedigree > chart. He was right next door to Saline County which was settled by (still) > politically -active Bracewells (Brazils), and a connection wouldn't surprise > me a bit. You did know LBJ is a Bracewell descendant, didn't you? I can > supply his lineage from REBECCA BRACEWELL WEST if anybody wants it..... Also, > I think I heard somewhere that Jimmy Carter also descends from REBECCA, but > that one needs checking out, > LBJ is confirmed. > > CAREY BRACEWELL > From ???@??? Thu Mar 13 21:28:43 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA03535 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 04:10:06 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 12 Mar 1997 13:29:59 -0700 Resent-Date: 12 Mar 1997 13:29:59 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:08:54 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970312150811_-1639430943@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@genealogy.org cc: MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com, rof@backporch.com Subject: Re: US Gen Web Project Resent-Message-ID: <"XSts82.0.IH3.59n9p"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/418 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Dear Cousin Foy, Kudos on the US GenWeb project! Can't wait to see Clinton's pedigree chart. He was right next door to Saline County which was settled by (still) politically -active Bracewells (Brazils), and a connection wouldn't surprise me a bit. You did know LBJ is a Bracewell descendant, didn't you? I can supply his lineage from REBECCA BRACEWELL WEST if anybody wants it..... Also, I think I heard somewhere that Jimmy Carter also descends from REBECCA, but that one needs checking out, LBJ is confirmed. CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Thu Mar 13 21:28:46 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA23440 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:02:49 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 13 Mar 1997 09:02:04 -0700 Resent-Date: 13 Mar 1997 09:02:04 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; To: CBracewell@aol.com Cc: braswell-l@genealogy.org, MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com, rof@backporch.com Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:13:05 PST Subject: Re: US Gen Web Project Message-ID: <19970313.105842.11126.7.jameswgreen@juno.com> References: <970312150811_-1639430943@emout09.mail.aol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-18 From: jameswgreen@juno.com (James W. Green III) Resent-Message-ID: <"GdzcY2.0.0G7.xJ2Ap"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/421 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org On Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:08:54 -0500 (EST) CBracewell@aol.com writes: >Dear Cousin Foy, > Kudos on the US GenWeb project! Can't wait to see Clinton's >pedigree chart. He was right next door to Saline County which was >settled by (still) politically -active Bracewells (Brazils), and >a connection wouldn't surprise me a bit. You did know LBJ is a >Bracewell descendant, didn't you? I can supply his lineage from >REBECCA BRACEWELL WEST if anybody wants >it..... Also, I think I heard somewhere that Jimmy Carter also >descends from REBECCA, but that one needs checking out, >LBJ is confirmed. > >CAREY BRACEWELL Carey & Keith, can you all put those lineages on our web pages? -- James W. Green III / Rt.5, Box 720 / Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA home:803-635-9236 http://emcee.com/~green http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/9389 From ???@??? Thu Mar 13 21:28:50 1997 Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA19878 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:13:07 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA26793; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:52:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:52:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970313165238_-869309136@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net, FoyBrasw@aol.com cc: rof@backporch.com, MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com Subject: LBJ & Bill Fields Dear Keith, Cousin Foy asked to share LBJ's Bracewell lineage with the membership. It goes: Rev. Robert Bracewell (1611-1668) Jane Bracewell (c.1646-c.1711) m. Robert Eley. Jr. Eli Eley m. Anne Lawrence Robert Eley III m. Martha Doughtie Samuel Eley m. Mary Hillsman Ann Eley (1763-1815) m. John Johnson (1764-1828) Jesse Johnson (1795-1856) m. Lucy Webb Barnett (1798-1857) Samuel Eley Johnson (1838-1915) m. Elizabeth Bunton (1849-1917) Samuel Eley Johnson, Jr. (1877-1937) m. Rebecca Baines (1881-1958) Lyndon Baines Johnson, President of the United States This lineage was worked out by Cousin James MacLamroch of North Carolina, the one who also had the brass plaque honoring our immigrant ancestor installed on the rood screen at St. Luke's, Isle of Wight County. A research project that would pay tremendous dividends to both present and future Braswell researchers would be an interview with Braswell expert (and my old friend and mentor) Mr Bill Fields of Fayetteville, NC. Bill is getting along in years now--he'll be 80 September 27th--and doesn't type or drive up to Raleigh anymore. But he has a wealth of Braswell information gleaned from years of in-state research that needs to be captured on tape and shared. If someone would be kind enough to volunteer to interview him--and perhaps take this fine old gentleman out to dinner, too--I'd be pleased to help format the interview. Bill's expertise is the family of RICHARD BRACEWELL ("II"), husband of ELINOR, consort of ANN CARVER of Edgecombe County, from whom Bill is a double descendant. But he knows more about colonial North Carolina Braswells than any other living person. I BEG EVERYONE not to bother Bill with calls or letters; he is still the premier portrait artist for North Carolina gentry (governors, etc.) and has 4 portraits on his easel right now he needs to finish. He is also co-author of a work in progress on the records of Cumberland County. The last thing he needs to be bothered with well-meaning Braswell cousins who havn't worked out their pedigrees to at least the eighteenth century period. CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Fri Mar 14 08:45:17 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA00888 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:50:31 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 14 Mar 1997 06:47:38 -0700 Resent-Date: 14 Mar 1997 06:47:37 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:47:24 -0500 (EST) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970314084723_-1438910211@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: Re: US Gen Web Project Resent-Message-ID: <"lT2Bd2.0.fS7.vRLAp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/425 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Wouldn't you know it, the only state that I'm having real problems getting through to on the Gen Web Project is Arkansas! I am a Western Outlaw History buff and am remiss at not knowning who shot Pat Garrett. Indeed, it was Jesse Wayne Brazel. I have an excellent article in one of my books about the incident. We can publish it to the net later and nominate him for "Braswell Rascal of the Month." Cousin Foy From ???@??? Fri Mar 14 09:20:22 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA08499 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:15:53 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 14 Mar 1997 08:07:25 -0700 Resent-Date: 14 Mar 1997 08:07:25 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:59:15 PST Subject: Jesse Wayne Brazel kills Pat Garrett Message-ID: <19970314.100412.14238.0.jameswgreen@juno.com> References: <970314084723_-1438910211@emout13.mail.aol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3,5-16 From: jameswgreen@juno.com (James W. Green III) Resent-Message-ID: <"d3crY2.0.X-2.icMAp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/426 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org On Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:47:24 -0500 (EST) FoyBrasw@aol.com writes: >I am a Western Outlaw History buff and am remiss at not knowning who >shot Pat Garrett. Indeed, it was Jesse Wayne Brazel. I have an excellent >article in one of my books about the incident. We can publish it to the >net later and nominate him for "Braswell Rascal of the Month." >Cousin Foy Sounds interesting. After you post it to the list, maybe Keith will put it on the web if you own the copyright. I have heard the name Pat Garrett, but do not remember who he was but think I vaguely remember a western movie or series I saw with that character? -- James W. Green III / Rt.5, Box 720 / Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA home:803-635-9236 http://emcee.com/~green http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/9389 From ???@??? Fri Mar 14 15:32:28 1997 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA29253 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:26:48 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA06184 for braswell@pbmo.net; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:26:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:26:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970314162533_1681349595@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Re: The Braswell Page Dear Cousin Keith, Yes, I would like to talk with Joe. I think among the three of us, we could make short work of linking up Marmaduke with the Immigrant. I have always assumed that Elijah was M's dad, and James his g-gf. To me the research problem centers on Elijah's & James' parentage, with William (d.c.1721) a strong candidate for the latter. CAREY From ???@??? Fri Mar 14 15:53:12 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA02855 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:47:35 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 14 Mar 1997 12:48:13 -0700 Resent-Date: 14 Mar 1997 12:48:12 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:47:25 -0600 Message-Id: <199703141947.NAA12453@vigil.pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org From: braswell@pbmo.net (Keith Braswell) Subject: Braswell List Suggestion Resent-Message-ID: <"a8ULH3.0.cz3.xjQAp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/430 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Foy, Thanks for your work on the US Genweb project! We are getting the Braswell Family Linked together all across the country. I really appreciate your work on this project. As we go forward with it please title your subject line "Braswell's On USGEN Web" so people can identify what it's pertaining to. I had a couple peope who were confused and thought they were subscribed to a USGenweb list group instead of The BRASWELL-L. Everyone else, Please use this as a general rule going forward. Please try to use the surname Braswell somewhere in the subject line when possible. Some people subscribe to many different lists and when the mail get's heavy, things get confusing. Or when they get behind in their mail they may delete an important Braswell message! Try to be as descriptive as possible. Some good examples of Braswell List Subject lines would be: Subject: Elijah Fredrick BRASWELL query Subject: A Braswell Hanging Story. Subject: Braswell, "Those Williams" Subject: Braswell - Toole Subject: The will of Valentine Braswell Some bad examples of subject lines would be: Subject: Something to consider Subject: Help! Subject: Elijah Fredrick This is not a demand, only a suggestion. Thanks again! Yours for Genealogy, Keith David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Sat Mar 15 00:03:24 1997 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA08537 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:35:23 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA01067; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:33:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:33:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970314193347_-1204206260@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com cc: gayleell@cdsnet.net, FoyBrasw@aol.com Subject: The James Smith Bible Dear Keith & Nona, Please d/l the following document and share it with everyone interested. It is as close to a family Bible for RICHARD (c.1723-1800) & OBEDIENCE SNOW(?) BRACEWELL as we"re apt to get. Many of your readership descend from this couple and therefore should welcome this documentation, such as it is. BACKGROUND: The Bible belonged to JAMES SMITH (b. Aug. 25, 1829, Gipson Co., Tenn.), s/o DIANAH BRASWELL SMITH, who was d/o JOHN BRASWELL, the accepted youngest son of the above RICHARD & OBEDIENCE BRACEWELL. JOHN was b.c. 1770, Anson Co., N.C. & m. REBECCA PRUITT in Greenville District, S.C. c.1790. (Cf. 1790 Census). The information in the Bible is in the form of a dairy, written sometime after April 8, 1884 (printing date) when Smith was 55 or older. Smith shared what he knew about his family from memory, the bulk of which was naturally about the SMITHs. It was probably written in Provo, Utah. Smith probably learned most of what he knew from his mother (who had been dead 10 years at the writing, she (Dianah Smith) having expired in Herber City, Utah, on March 8, 1875. He may have consulted other members of his family for some of the information, inasmuchas several names were added after he made the original listing. It is noteworthy also that he used nicknames in place of Christian names in the cases of ROBERT, VALENTINE, & OBEDIENCE--as a family member would. Smith's credibility and reliability are enhanced by the fact that he undertook this dairy as a sacred {Mormon} religious obligation, which he obviously took very seriously! He made fewer than a half-dozen errors in reference to the BRASWELL & PRUITT families, out of a wealth of precise information (names & dates, relationships, etc.)he shared. From the tone of the whole document, one gets the clear impression that Smith was a sincere man of integrity. On the other hand, his spelling showed he was an honest Mormon farmer--not an English professor, and he did show a charming innocence by his naive acceptance of the myth that he descended from Pocohontas and Captain John Smith! The dairy is in the loving hands of a Smith descendant in Provo. A microfilmed copy is in the LDS Archives in Salt Lake City. Cite "GRE Smith Bible". - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - -- - - - - - - - -- - - - - p. 76 "The name of Richard Smiths wife father {the word "father" crossed out}Dianah Smith grandfather {sic} was Richard Braswell John Braswell was a son of Richard Braswell Borned in the state of South Carolina Grinvill Co. about the year 1752 Richard Brasuell brother to John Brasuell George Brasuell married Polley Morgan. James Brasuell married Nancy Maxfield Robin Brasuell Vaul Brasuell Serah Brasuell Elizabeth Brasuell married James Butler Nancy Brasuell not married Birdence Brasuell married David Hall RIchard Brasuell son of John Brasuell Borne 1792 South Carolina Dianah Brasuell borned South Carolina October. 9.1797 and married Richard Smith December.11.1817. . . . " - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ANALYSIS While Smith's Bible is an invaluable resource, it does contain some apparent errors. Smith's assertion that John Braswell & Rebecca Pruitt were both born "about 1752"in South Carolina cannot be true on both "facts". John was actually born c.1770, as presumably was his Rebecca. (Cf. 1790 Census of Greenville District where JOHN is evidently a "newliwed"--just him and his female!)And John was almost certainly born in Anson (Montgomery) County, North Carolina, where his family lived at that time. It is interesting that John was living next to my RICHARD BRASWELL (1759-1842) & family in the 1790 census..... Another error in the Smith account is the identity of JAMES' wife, which should almost have certainly read MAXWELL, not MAXFIELD. The Braswells were neighbors and land-swappers with the MAXWELLs....no MAXFIELDs around. Also, another known son of RICHARD & OBEDIENCE, WILLIAM (c.1766-185_) was left off the list entirely as was FREDERICK (c.1752-1828.d. Jackson Co., Ga.). Two other probable sons, JOHN & SAMPSON, weren't mentioned either. Smith's information did not extend much beyond the South Carolina period, and the last three named never lived in that state. WILLIAM was evidently a quieter guy than his more flamboyant brothers! It only remains to be pointed out that "Robin" was ROBERT, "Vaul" was VALENTINE, and "Birdence" was OBEDIENCE. "Nancy" evidently remained a spinster. It also remains to acknowledge the tireless devotion of LDS Braswell descendant and expert researcher, Eunice Young, who uncovered this genealogical gem, among so many others! Eunice is retired to Salt Lake City now and works only occasionally on other lines. But her invaluable contributions to Braswell research will always be remembered. CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Sat Mar 15 00:04:04 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA27069 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 22:04:17 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 14 Mar 1997 19:50:02 -0700 Resent-Date: 14 Mar 1997 19:50:02 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 21:49:41 -0500 (EST) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970314214938_1915308009@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Rascal of the Month Resent-Message-ID: <"4740R3.0.nC3.QvWAp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/433 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org PATRICK FLOYD GARRETT (1850-1908) Pat Garrett, a frontier sheriff and rancher, was best known for capturing and later killing the outlaw "Billy the Kid" in July 1881. After retirement, Garrett became a cattle rancher near Organ, NM. On March 1, 1908, Garrett was riding to Las Cruces with Carl Adamson who was a partner in a cattle operation with "Deacon Jim" Miller, a noted gunslinger. Adamson was negotiating with Garrett over a deal to fatten up Mexican cattle on Garrett's grassl. Also present was JESSE WAYNE BRAZEL, a local cowboy who was raising goats on land rented from Garrett. About four miles from La Cruces, the men had stopped by the side of the road to relieve themselves, when, according to Adamson, Brazel suddenly drew his gun and shot Garrett. Brazel, who later confessed to the crime, claimed he shot in self defense. Brazel stated that he and Garrent had been arguing and the old lawman was threatening to shoot him. The case went to trial and Brazel was acquitted. Some say the trial was highly suspicious. For one thing, Adamson, the only witness, was never called to testify. For another, the evidence suggested that Garrett was shot in the back of the head, and that at the time he was shot he was in the act of urinating. There has been much speculation over the years that others were involved. One suspect was a local rancher and long-time enemy of Garrett's named W.W. Cox. Another was a partner of Brazel's named Print Rhode, and of course "Deacon Jim" Miller. Also, some believe Adamson was the murderer. Most votes, seem to be for Miller, as part of a grand collusion of all parties involved. The best evidence however, still points to Brazel who likely did get into an argument with Garrett over Pat's insistence that he sell his goats so Garrett could lease the land to Miller and Adamson. From ???@??? Sat Mar 15 10:07:43 1997 Received: from emout02.mail.aol.com (emout02.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.93]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id EAA24861 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 04:22:23 -0600 X-UIDL: 858441773.001 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id FAA13759 for braswell@pbmo.net; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 05:21:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 05:21:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970315052151_1915334119@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Re: The Braswell Page Status: U Dear Cousin Keith, My address is: 9322 Lightwood Loop Austin, Texas 78748 (512) 280-6736 I'm ready to talk to any cousin anytime about our heritage. CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Sat Mar 15 14:25:11 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA25960 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:22:43 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 15 Mar 1997 13:22:20 -0700 Resent-Date: 15 Mar 1997 13:22:20 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970315142346.00696c60@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:23:46 -0600 To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org (Braswell List) From: Keith Braswell Subject: The latest Braswell Guestbook entries Cc: gkp2456@dukepower.com, LAIDBACK@INTREPID.NET, jbarron933@aol.com, CBracewell@aol.com, MintJulep@coastalnet.com, dbraswel@atsd.com, renee@mcn.net, BettyMaeS@aol.com, kgid@mail.pernet.net, dabrit@thevision.net, gayleell@cdsnet.net, jasrks@midrivers.com, JRH20@aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"ZzBAI3.0.9Z.wJmAp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/434 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Dear Members of the Braswell EMailing List and to those who have Recently signed the Guestbook, Below are the The Braswell Family Guestbook Entries from 03/01/97 - 03/11/97! A special thanks to those who took the time to sign! It was brought to my attention by Foy (a current member of the Braswell List) that others may not have time to check on the latest entries. As we have done tim times past we are going to post them to the Braswell List also. For those of you signed the guestbook recently who may not know what the Braswell List is you may get more information by checking out the following URL: http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/blist.html It's basically a way to send a message to over 70 people who are interested in the Braswell Surname at the same time. Yours for Genealogy, Keith Braswell Guestbook entries: 03/11/97 George Kevin Price mailto:gkp2456@dukepower.com Cornelius, NC 28031 Just looking to see if I could find any info on Braswells in my area. My mother is a Braswell from Gastonia, NC. Her parents were Thelma & Malley Braswell. Lots of Braswell relatives in the Brown Mountain, NC area. 03/10/97 JOSEPH MICHAEL BRASWELL mailto:LAIDBACK@INTREPID.NET HEDGESVILLE, WV 25427 We hail from Henderson, NC, in the north central part of the state. Grand father was born in south central Virginia near Lawrenceville. I assume we are connected to the Isle of Wight Virginia folks who seem to be the place of the early Braswells. The textile mills of Henderson and Roanoke Rapids, NC provided the employment for many in my family. We are always interested in learning more about the family but don't have much time to devote to a search. We have 10 year old triplets, so we are establishing the next generation of Braswells. Thank you for providing this place to exchange information. 03/08/97 John C. Barron mailto:jbarron933@aol.com Austin, TX 78753 My wife's maiden name was Braswell. My daughter works on the genealogy. The line is from Smith Co., TN, and earlier from Edgecombe Co., NC. 03/08/97 Carey Hamilton Bracewell mailto:CBracewell@aol.com Austin, Texas 78748 03/06/97 Patricia K. Brown mailto:MintJulep@coastalnet.com Rocky Mount, N.C. 27801 I'm delighted to find this Braswell website. My maternal grandfather was a Braswell who lived in Edgecombe County near Rocky Mount, N.C. Very little is known about his family background. You may have provided me a starting point! Thanks....I'll be back! 03/05/97 David Wayne Braswell mailto:dbraswel@atsd.com University City, MO 63130 03/04/97 Renee Barnett mailto:renee@mcn.net Billings, MT. 59101 My Grandfather's name was Foy Mallory Braswell...He past away in January of 1990..age 84 or there about..He had a sister that was older...Modena was her name...My mother has a family bible with information in it..I'm not sure which side of the family it is right now..Will have to contact her about that tomorrow...And my Aunt has been in contact with this site..she told me about it... I have often wondered if there were other Braswell's around somewhere...He didn't talk too much about his family...I only know he was from the south and figured it to be around La., Mo., and Ka. It would be real fun to gather information... Thank you Renee' There is a family of Braswell's that live in the same town as my family but they are not related... 03/04/97 Betty Mae James Smith mailto:BettyMaeS@aol.com Plant City, FL 33567 I research Braswell family as it is related to my Miles and Toole family lines in southeastern AL Mary Miles m John Toole and their dau Margaret Toole m R L Braswell 03/03/97 Karen Guidry mailto:kgid@mail.pernet.net Groves, Texas 77619 I have a BRASUELL line though my grandmother Nancy Elizabeth Brasuell. Her parents were Robert B. Brasuell and Ellen Dunnigan. I really need help in knowing for sure if his parents were Charles Brasuell b.1819 and Elizabeth Tabor b.1827. I really need some proof! Any help would be appreciated. 03/03/97 Denise Lynn Britton mailto:dabrit@thevision.net Hughson, CA 95326 Hi! I am very excited to find this web page. My Grandfather is Jerome H. Braswell-Walton. Born April 22, 1886 died August 14, 1924. He married Eva P. Sonne August 14, 1924. Jerome was born in Johnson City, Tenn. Died in Bakersfield, CA. If any of this sounds familar please E-Mail me at dabrit@theviaion.net CYA Denise Britton 03/02/97 Lela Gayle Braswell Ellison mailto:gayleell@cdsnet.net Applegate, OR 97530 I see that I have not stated where I am searching: My ancester is Boardvine R. Braswell, supposedly born 1799 Surry County, NC. He moved to Clinton County, KY, by 1830. Would like to correspond with anyone in these two counties. Also Rowan County, NC. 03/02/97 Jacqueline Braswell Schlicht mailto:jasrks@midrivers.com Lindsay, MT 59339 Researching: Great Grandfather Blake W. Braswell, born 1840; married, possibly in Lincoln Parish, LA to Rush Behethlon Grigsby, born 1844. Place of birth for both unknown. Grandfather Llewellyn G. Braswell, born 1867, Simsboro, Lincoln Parish, LA; married at Bonney, Brazoria County, TX to Lillie Belle Mallory, born 1870, Ruston, Lincoln Parish, LA. 03/01/97 J. Richard Hall mailto:JRH20@aol.com Tulsa, OK 74105 Am descendant of Obedience Braswell 1763-1867 and Rev. Robert Braswell (Bracewell). I am looking for information on Obedience Snow who may have been mother of Obedience Braswell. The Braswell Family Guestbook http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/guestbook.html David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Sat Mar 15 14:51:45 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA01763 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:48:54 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 15 Mar 1997 13:48:53 -0700 Resent-Date: 15 Mar 1997 13:48:53 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970315145042.0069b218@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:50:42 -0600 To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org (Braswell List) From: Keith Braswell Subject: Dempsey Braswell born c. 1807 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"99kJ4.0.9v1.qimAp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/435 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org David, Thanks for responding to the guestbook note that I sent out. I am sending this on to the other folks on the Braswell List. Keith ============= David's starts here ================ David Wayne Braswell's Query My name is David W. Braswell and I am seeking information on a certain Dempsey Braswell born around 1807, probably in Tennessee, but possibly in Alabama or North Carolina. His family moved from Tennessee to Kentucky around 1841-43 and from Kentucky to Illinois around 1848-50. The 1850 Jackson County, Illinois census shows Dempsey as a resident with an age of 43. His offspring at the time were Robert, age 12, Nancy, age 11, and Jacob, age 9, all born in Tennessee, and William, age 7, Armintha, age 5, and Martha, age 2, all born in Kentucky. Any info. you may have would be much appreciated. --- Message ends here ---- David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Sat Mar 15 16:53:09 1997 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA04571 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 15:01:41 -0600 From: BettyMaeS@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA04808 for braswell@pbmo.net; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:01:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:01:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970315160109_-1874155252@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Re: The latest Braswell Guestbook entries Hi Keith, I wanted to give you a "AT - A - BOY" for this mailing, the first I have recieved like this. You are setting a "standard" for internet genealogy. Thanks, Betty From ???@??? Sat Mar 15 18:53:04 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA22220 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 18:48:01 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 15 Mar 1997 17:48:02 -0700 Resent-Date: 15 Mar 1997 17:48:02 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; To: dcarter@InfoAve.Net Cc: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 19:21:17 PST Subject: Re: SAMPSON RESEARCH Message-ID: <19970315.194501.11054.0.jameswgreen@juno.com> References: <332B15B5.69C@infoave.net> X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-30 From: jameswgreen@juno.com (James W. Green III) Resent-Message-ID: <"7qfd43.0.cQ2.1DqAp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/436 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org On Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:33:41 -0500 DON CARTER writes: >James, I have a Sara SAMPSON, that I know very little about! Hoping >you can help me. I do know she was married to a Thomas C. CARLETON. >They had one son I know about; Thomas CARLETON born 1753 in Meckleburg >Co., Va. died June 29,1818 in Morgan Co., Ga. If you could help me >with this SAMPSON Family Line I would deeply appreciated. THANK YOU >VERY MUCH!!! Don Carter Don Carter is a newsman on channel 10 (Columbia SC). InfoAve is in Rock Hill SC. Are you Don Carter the newscaster? That Don Carter went to the same church I did in Johnson City TN. Guess you saw my Sampson claim in the Roots-L Surname List? Many of we 70 Braswells on the Braswell List (see cc-line) have ancestors & relatives with the given name Sampson due to our ancestor Richard Braswell (1651-1735) marrying Sarah Sampson. The immigrant Rev. Robt. Bracewell was the father of Richard. Richard only had one brother so I suppose half the Braswells descend from Sarah Sampson & the rest call her aunt. Well Richard did have 3 sisters & I guess some of their descendants may also be subscribed. Anyway we need a list for Sampson & web pages for Sampson. If any of you Braswells can help Mr. Carter on his Sampson, you all can write him. -- James W. Green III / Rt.5, Box 720 / Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA home:803-635-9236 http://emcee.com/~green http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/9389 From ???@??? Sat Mar 15 20:14:21 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA07602 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 20:08:59 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 15 Mar 1997 19:09:00 -0700 Resent-Date: 15 Mar 1997 19:09:00 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <199703160208.SAA27380@ico.com> From: "Nona Williams" To: , "James W. Green III" Cc: Subject: Re: SAMPSON RESEARCH Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 18:08:23 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"NH3V9.0.mf4.xOrAp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/437 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org There is no proof that Richard's wife, Sarah, was a Sampson. Carey thinks she might have been a Valentine. -Nona ---------- > From: James W. Green III > To: dcarter@InfoAve.Net > Cc: Braswell-L@genealogy.org > Subject: Re: SAMPSON RESEARCH > Date: Saturday, March 15, 1997 7:21 PM > > On Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:33:41 -0500 DON CARTER > writes: > >James, I have a Sara SAMPSON, that I know very little about! Hoping > >you can help me. I do know she was married to a Thomas C. CARLETON. > >They had one son I know about; Thomas CARLETON born 1753 in Meckleburg > >Co., Va. died June 29,1818 in Morgan Co., Ga. If you could help me > >with this SAMPSON Family Line I would deeply appreciated. THANK YOU > >VERY MUCH!!! Don Carter > > Don Carter is a newsman on channel 10 (Columbia SC). InfoAve > is in Rock Hill SC. Are you Don Carter the newscaster? That > Don Carter went to the same church I did in Johnson City TN. > > Guess you saw my Sampson claim in the Roots-L Surname List? > Many of we 70 Braswells on the Braswell List (see cc-line) have > ancestors & relatives with the given name Sampson due to our > ancestor Richard Braswell (1651-1735) marrying Sarah Sampson. > The immigrant Rev. Robt. Bracewell was the father of Richard. > Richard only had one brother so I suppose half the Braswells > descend from Sarah Sampson & the rest call her aunt. Well > Richard did have 3 sisters & I guess some of their descendants > may also be subscribed. > > Anyway we need a list for Sampson & web pages for Sampson. > > If any of you Braswells can help Mr. Carter on his Sampson, > you all can write him. > -- > James W. Green III / Rt.5, Box 720 / Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA > home:803-635-9236 http://emcee.com/~green > http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/9389 From ???@??? Sun Mar 16 07:25:17 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA14179 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:06:48 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 16 Mar 1997 00:06:30 -0700 Resent-Date: 16 Mar 1997 00:06:30 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; To: rof@backporch.com, Braswell-L@genealogy.org Cc: dcarter@InfoAve.Net Subject: Re: SAMPSON RESEARCH Message-ID: <19970316.020320.3718.5.jameswgreen@juno.com> References: <199703160208.SAA27380@ico.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-60 From: jameswgreen@juno.com (James W. Green III) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 02:04:35 EST Resent-Message-ID: <"203Qu2.0.m41.rlvAp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/439 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org On Sat, 15 Mar 1997 18:08:23 -0800 "Nona Williams" writes: >There is no proof that Richard's wife, Sarah, was a Sampson. Carey >thinks she might have been a Valentine. -Nona I know this has been discussed before. I guess there should be a home page on this subject. Anyway, I penciled in the VALENTINE possibility into my Wm.Wayne Braswell book. I looked at the lineage on Wm.Wayne's page viii & see a son & grandson named Valentine among Sarah "Sampson"'s descendants, but the 1st child named Sampson does not appear until Sarah's great grandkids. Of course I am only looking at one lineage so am not looking at all of Sarah's grandkids nor all of her great grandkids. My Sampson Carver is also a great grandson of this Sarah "Sampson". I think we need a tree just showing people named Sampson that descend from the Braswells. Is there a prominent Sampson that Sampson County NC is named for & that our Sampsons are being named for, like people named kids for Thomas Jefferson & John Calvin? I know we discussed that. I found my handouts from a workshop I attended at the NC Archives in the mid-1970's It says Sampson Co. was created in 1784 from Duplin Co. Someone tell me the USGenWeb url so I can check Sampson Co. & email if necessary to find out who Sampson Co. is named for. Or one of you tell me who it is named for & that man's dates. The dates of our our earliest Sampsons are: 1 Sampson Braswell (brother b.1732) (page viii of WW.Braswell book) 2 Sampson Carver b.1755 (my pedigree) 3 Sampson Braswell b.1763 (page 39 of R.B. Braswell book) 1 & 2 are gt.grandkids of Sarah "Sampson or Valentine" 3 is a gt.gt.grandnephew of Sarah "Sampson or Vallentine". Our Sampsons are older than the county, but could be named for the same hero or preacher as the county is named for unless said hero became famous after our Sampsons were born. I took the earliest Sampson from each lineage. I bet we could make a more complete list of people named Sampson with their approx. birth years. Also we need a list of men named Valentine. Are there people surnamed Valentine in the county where our Sarah lived? Wonder where the will or estate papers are that list Sarah Braswell as a child in her father's estate. Could be in any county of any state or the Perrogatory court of Cantebury or any county in UK if her dad returned to the UK to die or is it that if you have land in the colonies that you have to probate in the Perrogatory Ct. of Cant.? Or the estate could be in the ashes of some court house fire. I hope one day that every name in every paper is indexed world-wide so that if we do not find her as a child in a will, we can say either they did not bother to settle her dad's estate or it burned & we can stop looking. Carey, what makes you think Sarah is a VALENTINE? -- James W. Green III / Rt.5, Box 720 / Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA home:803-635-9236 http://emcee.com/~green http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/9389 From ???@??? Sun Mar 16 07:52:46 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA17094 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 07:48:34 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 16 Mar 1997 06:48:26 -0700 Resent-Date: 16 Mar 1997 06:48:26 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:26:46 -0500 (EST) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970316082646_986957693@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: jameswgreen@juno.com cc: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Sampson Co, NC Resent-Message-ID: <"kT2la.0.-q5.fe_Ap"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/440 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org SAMPSON COUNTY, NC Sampson was formed in 1784from Duplin. It was named in honor of Colonel John Sampson,who was a member of JosiahMartin's council. It is in the eastern section of the State and is bounded by Wayne, Duplin,Pender, Bladen, Cumberland, Harnett and Johnston counties. The present land area is 944.74 square miles and the 1990 population was 47,297. The act establishing the county directed that the first court be held at the home of James Myhand, at which place the justices were to decide where all subsequentcourts were to be held until a courthouse could be erected. Commissioners were named to select a central location, purchase land, and erect the public buildings. It is probable that the courthouse was called Sampson Court House on the public lands of the county. Clinton is the county seat. URL's Sampson County - http://dixiequest.com/sampson/ US Gen Web - http://www.usgenweb.com/ From ???@??? Sun Mar 16 08:02:34 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA17865 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:00:02 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 16 Mar 1997 06:59:54 -0700 Resent-Date: 16 Mar 1997 06:59:54 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:59:36 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970316085935_-1003032990@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: Re: Dempsey Braswell born c. 1807 Resent-Message-ID: <"wg19V2.0.O16.Pp_Ap"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/441 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Dear Cousin David, The first Braswells in Illinois were sons of RICHARD & OBEDIENCE BRACEWELL of North Carolina. RICHARD died near Clinton, Tennessee, c. 1800. His sons ROBERT, VALENTINE, and WILLIAM pioneered the Goshen Settlement of present Madison (then St. Clair) Co., Illinois Territory, c.1805. Four years later, his son RICHARD, Jr. (1759-1842) pioneered Johnson County. From time to time, members of their brother, JAMES' family, also came to Illinois. JAMES was murdered in 1799 in what is now Morgan (then Knox) County, Tennessee. It is possible that your DEMPSEY descended from one of these brothers, possibly ROBERT inasmuchas DEMPSEY named his first son that. CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Sun Mar 16 11:04:07 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA08488 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:00:18 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 16 Mar 1997 10:00:09 -0700 Resent-Date: 16 Mar 1997 10:00:09 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 10:33:15 -0500 (EST) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970316103315_1284607690@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: CBracewell@aol.com, Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: James Brazel Resent-Message-ID: <"FkNI2.0.D75.OS2Bp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/443 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Carey - I finally found my note about the killing of James. It was not nearly as complete as your message of 97-03-13. General Abstracts from 18th Century Virginia Newspapers, Robert K. Hendly Jr., page 152. "James Brazel (or Brasel), brother of Robert, found murdered on 29 July (1799) on the road leading to Stockton's Valley in Cumberland Co, KY." From ???@??? Sun Mar 16 11:20:11 1997 Received: from emout01.mail.aol.com (emout01.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.92]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA10365 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:17:03 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout01.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA03684; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:15:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:15:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970316121526_1949018120@emout01.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net cc: rof@backporch.com, FoyBrasw@aol.com, jameswgreen@juno.com Subject: The ancestry of Dempsey Braswell Dear Cousin Keith, Please forward the following to Cousin Wayne Braswell in further answer to his recent querry: Dear Cousin Wayne, Please collate the following information with that I just shared: True, the earliest Bracewells in Illinois Territory were those of RICHARD & OBEDIENCE BRACEWELL, my lineage. But yours came much later, to a different county, bearing the probably-significant name, DEMPSEY. A hurried scanning of my North Carolina files shows that one of the earliest references to a DEMPSEY BRASWELL was in Nash County, NC, Circa 1795. In February Court of that year, JAMES WILLIAMS proved the will of SAMUEL BRASWELL of Nash who names a son, SAMPSON. This well-loved SAMPSON received the bulk of his father's estate--including a {no doubt beloved } still. Old SAMUEL also left a generous bequest to "my two {grand}children, SAMPSON and POLLY BRASWELL..." Yours, perhaps? SAMPSON, Senior, got the homeplace "and plantation where my {SAMUEL's} father lived and died containing..." 296 acres ..."it being two parcels of land that was given me by my father..." SAMUEL also names wife, SARAH (slave, "Mary Ann"; mare, "Jenny"); son, MICAJAH (cattle & colt); daughter, ELIZABETH (negro "Jack" & 3 sheep); daughter MARGARET (furniture & livestock); son WILSON (land, furniture, livestock, "one rifle, one chest, one pocket compass, and the colt that his mother's mare Jinny is now {Nov. 30, 1794} with foal with..."';daughter QUEENIE (negro "Simon" & usual" feather bed and furniture") Sorry, but citation for this document escapes me.... SAMPSON BRASWELL next appears in my Nash records in that sad little case of ROBIN BRASWELL vs CALLEY POWELL BRASWELL (Citation: LEGISLATIVE PAPERS, 1798. North Carolina Archives, Raleigh, L.P. 157. In this notorious case--only one of 4 divorces granted in North Carolina before 1800, ROBIN BRASSWELL was granted a divorce from his wife, CALLEY who" was brought to Bed of a Black child", took off with her African paramour, had 3 more children by him, then turned up 8 years later with the youngest of these, demanding ROBIN support them both as law required. DEMSEY & BRITAIN BRASWELL, along with numerous POWELLs, attested to ROBIN's petition to "the honable the general assembly now sitting at Raliegh". N.B. The name "MICAJAH" as DEMSEY's brother is probably also significant. My index shows one of that name in Edgecombe in 1845. My index also shows a DEMSEY BRASWELL in Moore County in 1779 which would definitely tie you to my RICHARD & OBEDIENCE (Orange/Montgomery counties) if yours, but for the life of me I couldn't find the reference! Well Cuz, hope these clues help you narrow your search for your Braswell lineage. You must know by now that Braswell-hunting is not for the faint-hearted! CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Sun Mar 16 11:51:13 1997 Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com (emout17.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.43]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA14691 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:48:36 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA24140; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:47:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:47:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970316124701_852791469@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net cc: rof@backporch.com, Lbarron@fas.harvard.edu Subject: Fwd: Sarah Valentine as the wife of Richard Bracewell (c.1652-1725) --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Sarah Valentine as the wife of Richard Bracewell (c.1652-1725) Date: 97-03-16 12:12:06 EST From: CBracewell To: jameswgreen@juno.com Dear Cousin James, The evidence that our first American RICHARD's wife SARAH was a VALENTINE is, as usual with Braswells, circumstantial. The opinion was first expressed ex-cathedra by no less an authority than Katherine Edwards, former County Clerk of Isle of Wight County, Bracewell descendant, and professional genealogist. Given the prevailing custom of naming a younger son after his mother's family (e.g. "Braswell Bridger", near some Braswells on the 1740 List of Bertie & Edgecombe Jurymen ) it would stand to reason that the unique naming of one of his youngest son "Valentine" has family meaning. That "Valentine" was a unique name--not a "fad"name--is proved by the same list of Bertie/Edgecombe veniremen cited above{Secretary of State. THE COLONIAL RECORDS OF NORTH CAROLINA, Vol. 4, p.523+} in which only one "Valentine" appears on this list of 470 adult men, none other than our "VALL BRASSWELL", #431. Finally, the fact that VALENTINE's descendants faithfully perpetuated this well-known FFV {First Family of Virginia} name is significant evidence in itself, made the more so by the less than saintly lifestyle of this original VALENTINE (c.1692-1766). First off, he married a Quaker (JANE POPE) down in the turpentine forests of south Isle of Wight,{which could not have endeared him to his more conservative Anglican relatives}, seats himself within 100 yards of the then-undetermined provincial boundary between Virginia and North Carolina (so as to confound the authorities, no doubt), and next shows himself being slapped with a peace bond by one SARAH TAYLOR in Bertie Precinct July 14, 1729. Even though a married father, he had to post a 40-pound bond that he would leave SARAH alone "for the space of One year and a Day." Not that old VAL is a serious contender for Cousin Foy's "Braswell Rascal of the Month" (unless we're running out of candidates! :) :) :D), but his history after that was, well, undistinguished. In the early 1730's he joins his more ambitious brothers in the Tar Valley in Bertie/Edgecombe. He must have been employed in the naval stores industry, for when that industry experienced a downturn and Granville simultaneously opened the southwest Piedmont to settlement in the mid-1740's, old VAL was first in line to grab some free land in Orange County. That he had a not-so gentle nudge to go west is shown by SAMPSON WILLIAMS to SAMUEL WILLIAMS, for 30 pounds, 320 acres on N/S Tar River at mouth of Cypress Creek "whereon VALENTINE BRASWELL now lives." (Edgecombe DB 5-462, signed March 4, 1744.} VALENTINE & sons settled at the head of the Cape Fear River where they opened an inn ("Ordinary") and ferryboat operation at the confluence of the Deep & Haw rivers. We may speculate VAL learned this business living near similar ferry operations in Virginia. At any rate, the rest of VAL's story is one of bad debts, since he was apparently good at winning people's trust. We only know that he died c. 1766 because a series of lawsuits against him were dropped at that time since "he could not be found." What a guy! So you see it's probably identification with the FFV Valentines rather than the dubious reputation of its original bearer that caused this name to be perpetuated in this line down to this century. For example, there were VALENTINE BRAZILs in Arkansas well into the 1900's, long after anyone remembered anything about the original connection! I should like to see what "evidence" would have our SARAH be a SAMPSON! Anent that, Iwould imagine the Biblical character "Sampson" was the original inspiration for that name. Yours for fun sleuthing, CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Sun Mar 16 11:54:13 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA14864 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:49:39 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 16 Mar 1997 10:49:38 -0700 Resent-Date: 16 Mar 1997 10:49:37 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Cc: dcarter@InfoAve.Net Subject: Re: Sampson Co, NC Message-ID: <19970316.124552.14294.23.jameswgreen@juno.com> References: <970316082646_986957693@emout02.mail.aol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-29 From: jameswgreen@juno.com (James W. Green III) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:47:13 EST Resent-Message-ID: <"3Nbof1.0.DH7.nA3Bp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/445 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org On Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:26:46 -0500 (EST) FoyBrasw@aol.com writes: >SAMPSON COUNTY, NC > >Sampson was ... named in honor of Colonel John Sampson,who was a >member of JosiahMartin's council. ... I checked Britannica & there is no Col. John Sampson. All I find in Britannica is Wm.T. Sampson a US Naval Officer in the Spanish American War. You say "honor" & not "memory" so I guess Col. John is too young to be the one our Sampsons are named for. Col. John must've been in the Am.Rev. & perhaps the French & Indian War. Anyone got his dates? I guess Samson & Sampson are the same & our Sampsons could be named for the one in the Bible. I sure do not like the distance between Sarah Sampson & the 1st of her descendants named Sampson. That makes Valentine look like the more likely surname. Both Valentine & Sampson could be given names like James & Jonn being passed down given names or named for neighbors' given names. >URL's >Sampson County - http://dixiequest.com/sampson/ >US Gen Web - http://www.usgenweb.com/ Well I just added US GenWeb to my url & mirror. Thanks. I see my county of residence = ancestral county is an orphan. -- James W. Green III / Rt.5, Box 720 / Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA home:803-635-9236 http://emcee.com/~green http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/9389 From ???@??? Sun Mar 16 12:00:17 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA16112 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:57:55 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 16 Mar 1997 10:57:46 -0700 Resent-Date: 16 Mar 1997 10:57:46 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:37:38 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970316123738_247175202@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@genealogy.org cc: jameswgreen@juno.com Subject: Re: SAMPSON RESEARCH Resent-Message-ID: <"rrSND1.0.Nu7.PI3Bp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/446 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Dear Cousins, I should have mentioned that the absence of any extant Virginia record tieing SARAH BRACEWELL to the VALENTINEs is a function of how many "burned out counties" first the British and then those damnyankees left behind in Tidewater Virginia! CAREY From ???@??? Sun Mar 16 13:02:24 1997 Received: from axp1.umkc.edu (axp1.umkc.edu [134.193.4.1]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA26947 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:58:36 -0600 Received: from dialup3-33.umkc.edu by CCTR.UMKC.EDU (PMDF V5.1-8 #22013) with SMTP id <01IGKKJKV75CEAFGWG@CCTR.UMKC.EDU> for braswell@pbmo.net; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:58:31 CST Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:58:31 -0600 (CST) Date-warning: Date header was inserted by CCTR.UMKC.EDU From: carissa haider Subject: a (very!) distant relative, perhaps X-Sender: Chaider@cctr.umkc.edu (Unverified) To: braswell@pbmo.net Message-id: <01IGKKJLYFWYEAFGWG@CCTR.UMKC.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi there, you don't know me from Adam but I happened upon your website. I am tracing my family tree and I am a descendent of Robert Braswell who came to "America" in about 1650. After about 6 generations the spelling was altered and became "Brasel", which is what my Gradmother's family goes by. If you are interested, I'd love to share the Braswell/Brasel pedigree information I have, or if you are ever in Kansas City I'd like to meet your family. It is about 30 or so pages long with reprints of wills and such. Just let me know. Carissa Haider ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ Die Yuppie Scum! ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From ???@??? Sun Mar 16 17:04:01 1997 Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA00382 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 15:40:57 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA21949; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:39:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:39:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970316163949_852812709@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: gayleell@cdsnet.net, FoyBrasw@aol.com cc: braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com Subject: Boardvine Braswell Dear Cousin Gayle, Your North Carolina maps should arrive soon. Mine came yesterday. Please d/l the following notes and find a good magnifying glass for use when yours arrive: The 1833 Mac Rae-Brazier shows the area of central Montgomery County were our RICHARD's family lived until the Revolutionary War moved South: Rocky Creek, Cedar Creek, Richs Creek. RICHARD lived right on Little River, and "the Baptist Fork of Clark's Creek" had to be nearby. Note that the road to Fayetteville ("Cross Creek") cuts right through here, the road various of these Baptists were appointed to maintain. Speaking of roads, the 1775 Mouzon clearly shows the route that first GEORGE & SAMPSON(?), later RICHARD's whole family, would follow up to the upper Yadkin country: follow the road that runs north along Little River, turning west where it intercepts Cape Fear Road. RICHARD's gang settled on "Reedy Creek". The 1833 map shows RICHARD's Wilkes homestead correctly, as "Reddies River" just north of Wilkesboro. On the same map, note the road that leads northeast to Fisher's River in Surry, where your branch seated, not more than 20 miles away. And I'm sure you are already aware that the "Moravian Survey" east of that, a heavily-populated German settlement that may have contributed a bride to the Braswells and who was the inspiration for the unusual name, "Boardvine". {My Palatine ancestors, the Bruhlmanns, became "Prillemans" by the time they got to Tennessee!} GEORGE is known to have married POLLY MORGAN, but SAMPSON may well have found his bride among these Germans. There weren't many Anglo-Americans out there to choose from at that time! From ???@??? Sun Mar 16 22:14:51 1997 Received: from axp1.umkc.edu (axp1.umkc.edu [134.193.4.1]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA14453 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 18:54:22 -0600 Received: from dialup1-27.umkc.edu by CCTR.UMKC.EDU (PMDF V5.1-8 #22013) with SMTP id <01IGKWYOAE2SEAFJ6I@CCTR.UMKC.EDU> for braswell@pbmo.net; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 18:54:17 CST Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 18:54:17 -0600 (CST) Date-warning: Date header was inserted by CCTR.UMKC.EDU From: carissa haider Subject: X-Sender: Chaider@cctr.umkc.edu (Unverified) To: braswell@pbmo.net Message-id: <01IGKWYP3FIUEAFJ6I@CCTR.UMKC.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What I have is a old "manuscript" that was researched by a family member. There is a pretty nifty set of information about some of the women who married into the Braswell family and their roots in the colonies as well. I will be hitting Kinko's this week and I'll mail you my complete set. Do you know if any of the Braswell/Bracewell/etc. folks owned slaves, and if so, has anyone tried to trace the slaves' decendents? I have never run across an African American will that last name, but odds are there might be some out there. Let me know if you need any other information. I will be travelling to England in the next couple years and would like to search any records of pre-colonial Braswell/Bracewells if any exist. Also, the LDS Church has recently added some information from Europe according to a friend of mine. Carissa ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ Die Yuppie Scum! ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From ???@??? Sun Mar 16 22:14:52 1997 Received: from aus-b.mp.campus.mci.net (aus-b.mp.campus.mci.net [208.140.84.22]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA10925 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 20:39:54 -0600 Received: from rwall.wku (s16-pm18.snaustel.campus.mci.net [208.140.81.59]) by aus-b.mp.campus.mci.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00197 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 21:36:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703170236.VAA00197@aus-b.mp.campus.mci.net> From: "Robert L. Wall" To: "Keith Braswell" Subject: Dempsey Braswell born c. 1807 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 20:33:38 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keith you didn't say if David Wayne Braswell was on our Braswell list. Would you forward this. William Williams' wife, Lucretia Braswell, had a brother naned Dempsey born Abt. 1750/70. They came to Smith Co. TN. Their son-in-law.Sampson Braswell had a grandson named Dempsey. Nona Williams on this List might have something on this. A William Braswell living near Sampson had a son your Dempsey's age in the 1830 Wsarren Co. TN census. Bob Wall rwall@wku.campus.mci.net From ???@??? Mon Mar 17 08:17:09 1997 Received: from emout16.mail.aol.com (emout16.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.42]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id EAA28777 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 04:09:30 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id FAA12036; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:08:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:08:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970317050858_1648078637@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com cc: rof@backporch.com, braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Re: Bracewell Branches, I, 1 Dear Cousin Joyce, Thank you for the nice letter. I got a real chuckle from your DABs....Daughters of American Bastards! They used to call these "natural children". And wasn't it Madame de Stael--Diderot's contemporary, who said, "My dear, aren't ALL children natural?" LOL. I loved your style from the beginning when you said "I don't take my ancestors too seriously--they were human after all--but I do take genealogy very seriously." This demonstrates, I think, a useful maturity in approaching our ancestors. If we get ego-involved, we handicap ourselves. Scientific detachment in all things! And I already knew the value of group concensus, although I suspect that you like me can't be swayed when the preponderance of evidence points to a clear {to us} conclusion. The analogy of trial by jury is apt: make them prove they're our ancestors. Can't wait to hear what you make of the RICHARD BRACEWELL materials! CAREY From ???@??? Mon Mar 17 08:17:10 1997 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id EAA28989 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 04:48:48 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id FAA26048; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:47:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:47:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970317054743_-1103594315@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: gayleell@cdsnet.net, FoyBrasw@aol.com cc: braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com Subject: Re: William Braswell/Surry County, NC Dear Cousin Gayle, Yes, as a matter of fact I do have expertise in reading colonial handwriting--I read the Isle of Wight records in the original, archaic script, for instance--but I don't think my talents are called for here: that person was apparently not a Bracewell. I cannot identify at present the WILLIAM BRAZIL who married MARY HALL October 6, 1802, in Rowan, nor the JOHN BRASEL who married MATILDA PRICE in Wilkes April 13, 1816. Indeed, I didn't have the record for JOHN, since this was long after my branch left the area. One can only speculate for now if there was any connection between the first match and the BRACEWELL-HALL matches that are known to have occured in the Reddies River area of Wilkes during the 1780's. We--you, Foy, and I--are at the stage in this research problem of gathering all the extant data from the Blue Ridge area Circa 1800 and plotting it out in a time-space framework so as to sort out these Bracewells once and for all. Naturally my slant would be to associate many of them with the family of RICHARD & OBEDIENCE since they were among the first in that part of Carolina, but it is already clear that members of other branches were also operating in the trans-montane region early on. We can and will get them sorted out! I'll send you another copy of my NC index. Georgia index is printed, too, so I can "snail mail" a copy of that. Our FREDERICK BRASWELL died in Jackson Co., Ga., c. 1828. It looks like JOHN expired there some 20 years earlier. Again, lets keep focused on the Surry/Wilkes area before 1800,OK? Our answers have to be there. CAREY From ???@??? Mon Mar 17 15:15:23 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA10884 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:11:07 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 17 Mar 1997 14:10:40 -0700 Resent-Date: 17 Mar 1997 14:10:40 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970317151158.0069b224@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:11:58 -0600 To: dbraswel@atsd.com From: Keith Braswell Subject: Dempsey Braswell born c. 1807 Cc: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"8dgMy2.0.8A6.FDRBp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/448 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org David, A Forwarded message from Robert Wall... You might consider subscribing to the Braswell-L list where many of these messages get posted. The address to subsribe is Braswell-L-request@Genealogy.Org Put in the word SUBSCRIBE as your subject. Take care, Keith Braswell ---------- Original Message Starts Here. ---------- From: "Robert L. Wall" To: "Keith Braswell" Subject: Dempsey Braswell born c. 1807 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 20:33:38 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Keith you didn't say if David Wayne Braswell was on our Braswell list. Would you forward this. William Williams' wife, Lucretia Braswell, had a brother naned Dempsey born Abt. 1750/70. They came to Smith Co. TN. Their son-in-law.Sampson Braswell had a grandson named Dempsey. Nona Williams on this List might have something on this. A William Braswell living near Sampson had a son your Dempsey's age in the 1830 Wsarren Co. TN census. Bob Wall rwall@wku.campus.mci.net ---------- Original Message Ends Here. ---------- David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Mon Mar 17 15:18:46 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA11917 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:15:50 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 17 Mar 1997 14:14:56 -0700 Resent-Date: 17 Mar 1997 14:14:56 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:14:47 -0600 Message-Id: <199703172114.PAA11702@vigil.pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@genealogy.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org From: braswell@pbmo.net (Keith Braswell) Subject: Braswell subscriber deleted from List. Resent-Message-ID: <"857fC2.0.fI6.GHRBp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/449 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Due to excessive undeliverable mail this name was deleted from the List. Keith ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- mail.local: unknown name: anb 554 ... Service unavailable Reporting-MTA: dns; finland.it.earthlink.net From ???@??? Mon Mar 17 21:28:06 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA08686 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:25:00 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 17 Mar 1997 20:11:06 -0700 Resent-Date: 17 Mar 1997 20:11:06 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970317211225.00697f9c@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:12:25 -0600 To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org From: Keith Braswell Subject: Who's on the Braswell List these days... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"rOhPc1.0.LP5.9VWBp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/450 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org This should interesting to most of you.... Here is a copy of who's who among the Braswell List Subscribers. If I don't have your name and City, ST please let me know by sending me an email message at braswell@pbmo.net or if your email program allows hot links click on this: mailto:braswell@pbmo.net If you have given it to me before, please forgive me and send it again. Keith Braswell braswell@pbmo.net (Keith Braswell-Poplar Bluff, MO) malcolm.basham@chrysalis.org (L. Malcolm Basham-Dallas, TX) sblackstone@nine.com (S. L. Blackstone-Arlington, MA) hero1000@msn.com (James Ray Bracewell-Winter Park, FL) barb713@aol.com (Barb Breazeale Branham-Roanoke, VA) braswell@capital.net (B. H. Braswell-Queensbury, NY) t400369@univscvm.csd.sc.edu (Benjamin E. Breazeale-Columbia, SC) ialum59@univscvm.csd.sc.edu (Sandra Clardy Breazeale-Cola, SC) jimchstn@kopower.com (Jim Chastin-, ) lois@chatlink.com (Lois Hayes Culver-Grants Pass, OR) jduncan@pe.net (John E. Duncan-Riverside, CA) kerry_hammock@byu.edu (Kerry Hammock-Provo, UT) philen@lucent.com (Dan L. Philen-Atlanta, GA) jsq@tic.com (John S. Quarterman-Austin, TX) hplmt@fhsuvm.fhsu.edu (Mary Ann Thompson-Hays, KS) dorcasbee@aol.com (Beth Weldon Trestrail-Grand Rapids, MI) royW7846@aol.com (Roy Warden-Charlotte, NC) hotratz@aone.com (Myrna Rowe Uhlig-Clatskanie, OR) JBRAZZEL@LPGATE1.KELLY.AF.MIL (Jon M Brazzell-Floresville, TX) Kate_Street@prodigy.com MR8267@aol.com REllis1900@aol.com (Rich Ellis-Cedar Park, TX) NShock@aol.com rof@backporch.com 73503.2577@compuserve.com wbracewe@ix.netcom.com marge@csra.net (Marge Braswell-Augusta, GA) crossd@cyberia.com hillin@cris.com choward@mailgw.sanders.lockheed.com (Sue Howard) jgoble@nishanet.com percy5@worldnet.att.net (Sidney A. Terry) whdavis@worldnet.att.net (William H Davis) tackett@fpl.msstate.edu trglc@concentric.net judy@lan.nsc.com (Judy Bettencourt) FoyBrasw@aol.com (Foy Braswell-Wichita Falls, TX) timww@ktc.com (Tim Wilson) JohnC.HowardJr.@worldnet.att.net (John C. Howard, Jr.) MLBrasuell@aol.com mbras@flash.net (Mark Braswell) jbraswell@nanosecond.com (James T. Braswell) homfrt@kingsnet.com (Susan Braswell) jjones116@aol.com (Jay Jones) paul@braswell-inc.com (Paul B. Braswell) vmeyer@flash.net (Victor Meyer) jbrazel@MIS.Net Braswhit@AOL.Com (Earl Braswell-Datona Beach, FL) JamesWGreen@Juno.Com (James W. Green III) lbarron@fas.harvard.edu (Lucy Barron) Flowerkp@aol.com (Karen Pickett-Burlingame, KS) mjhughes@lodinet.com (Marilyn J. Hughes) ashlynn@whc.net (Ashlynn) gainesh@bellsouth.net (Gaines L. Hobbs) braswell@airmail.net (Lance Braswell) bras@worldnet.att.net (Bruce Braswell) rwall@wku.campus.mci.net (Robert L. Wall) CBracewell@aol.com (Carey H. Bracewell) souderj@HiWAAY.net (John Souder-Huntsville, AL) ktrib@hot1.net (Kim Tribble-Waco,TX) OneNita296@aol.com (Nita Brusha) johneda@swbell.net (Johneda Tinnin Lee) blackburn@research.bfg.com (Lee Blackburn) LEAS001@computron.net (Sandra Lear-Clute, TX) Braswell@txdirect.net (Karen Braswell-San Antonio, TX) gayleell@cdsnet.net (Gayle Ellison) youngg@schoollink.net (Greg Young-Roanoke Rapids, NC) MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com (Joyce Hetrick-Springfield, AR) cc001349@mindspring.com (Steele Brand) york@wishkah.techline.com (Cal York) David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Tue Mar 18 23:28:04 1997 Received: from smtp2.fas.harvard.edu (root@smtp2.fas.harvard.edu [140.247.30.82]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA23780 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 08:55:04 -0600 Received: from smtp.fas.harvard.edu ([128.103.150.167]) by smtp2.fas.harvard.edu with SMTP id JAA00544; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:55:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:55:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970318095632.2a273ef2@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: lbarron@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Keith Braswell From: Lucy Barron Subject: Re: Dempsey Braswell born c. 1807 Another Dempsey BRASWELL (BRAWELL in 1850 Alabama Census index) about this age is living in Alabama by 1830. He is living in Wilcox Co., AL (page 164, two pages away from Robin BRASWELL, Richard LANCASTER and Peter WILLIAMS. Others of these two latter surnames are also in the county.) in 1830. In 1850, he is living in neighboring Marengo Co., AL (p. 67). Because of the WILLIAMS and LANCASTERs also living there with Dempsy and along with other BRASWELLs, I'm pretty sure this bunch all hails from Smith Co./DeKalb/Middle Tennessee people which came originally from the Nash/Edgecombe branch of NC. I do not know the exact relationship but he's probably closely related to the Dempseys in Lucretia (BRASWELL) WILLIAMS immediate family. Lucy Barron Lexington, MA At 03:11 PM 3/17/97 -0600, you wrote: >David, A Forwarded message from Robert Wall... You might consider >subscribing to the Braswell-L list where many of these messages get posted. > The address to subsribe is Braswell-L-request@Genealogy.Org Put in the >word SUBSCRIBE as your subject. > >Take care, >Keith Braswell > > >---------- Original Message Starts Here. ---------- >From: "Robert L. Wall" >To: "Keith Braswell" >Subject: Dempsey Braswell born c. 1807 >Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 20:33:38 -0600 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >Keith you didn't say if David Wayne Braswell was on our >Braswell list. Would you forward this. >William Williams' wife, Lucretia Braswell, had a brother naned >Dempsey born Abt. 1750/70. They came to Smith Co. TN. >Their son-in-law.Sampson Braswell had a grandson named >Dempsey. Nona Williams on this List might have something >on this. A William Braswell living near Sampson had a son >your Dempsey's age in the 1830 Wsarren Co. TN census. > >Bob Wall >rwall@wku.campus.mci.net > > >---------- Original Message Ends Here. ---------- > > David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 > 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ > Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net > > From ???@??? Tue Mar 18 23:28:11 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA26629 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:12:56 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 18 Mar 1997 13:12:33 -0700 Resent-Date: 18 Mar 1997 13:12:33 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 12:53:15 PST From: timww@ktc.com Subject: Re: William Braswell - 1680-1720 VA,NC To: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <"ZilJ.0.JE.mSlBp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/451 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Some time ago I posted a question concerning the father of William Braswell (son of either Richard or Robert and a grandson of Rev. Robert.) The problem has been that both Richard and Robert had sons named William and it has been difficult to separate them. I am looking for father of the William who married Mary (Wilson??) and moved to NC. Mary had later remarried Moses Guinn at least by 1726. I have since come across some very thorough research done by a relative of my grandmother which suggests that this William's father must have been Richard. I'm posting the reasoning for this below. It sounds pretty logical to me. Robert Braswell's widow (Susannah Burgess(?) Braswell Towle) gave land to her sons Richard and William in her will. This will was recorded in Isle of Wight Co. on 6/26/1732. The will was presented by her son William Braswell, executor named therein. Therefore, Robert and Susannah's son William was in Isle of Wight in 1732 and could not have been the William Braswell who moved to Chowan-Bertie Co, NC and died in the 1720s. A copy of the will and the dates involved is included in the research. This is new to me, but I realize it may already discussed on the list. If anyone has any ideas as to why this might not be reliable, please let me know. Thanks, Tim Wilson timww@ktc.com Kerrville, Texas From ???@??? Tue Mar 18 23:28:16 1997 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA28525 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:32:31 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA08415 for braswell@pbmo.net; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:31:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:31:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970318183045_-1337820138@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Fwd: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: wkucampus.mci.net: host not fo... --------------------- Forwarded message: From: MAILER-DAEMON@aol.com (Mail Delivery Subsystem) To: CBracewell@aol.com Date: 97-03-18 17:43:53 EST The original message was received at Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:43:37 -0500 (EST) from root@localhost ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- rwall@wkucampus.mci.net (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 rwall@wkucampus.mci.net... Host unknown (Name server: wkucampus.mci.net: host not found) ----- Original message follows ----- Return-Path: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout26.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id RAA20319 for rwall@wkucampus.mci.net; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:43:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:43:37 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970318173947_-2107179973@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: rwall@wkucampus.mci.net Subject: Dempsey Braswell Query Dear Cousin Robert, May I say, nice job in fielding that query about DEMPSEY BRASWELL of Illinois? Your response was certainly more cogent to the research problem as presented. Nice work, Cuz! May I ask your Braswell lineage since I am new to the group? Mine's Rev. ROBERT BRACEWELL (1611-1668) RICHARD BRACEWELL (c.1652-1725) VALENTINE BRACEWELL (c.1692-c.1766) RICHARD BRAZWELL (c.1723-1800) RICHARD BRAZIL (1759-1842) MOSES BRAZIL (1803-1872) Deacon JESSE BRAZIL (1827-1888) Rev. JESSE CALVIN BRAZIL (1865-1951) Rev. ETHERIDGE C. BRAZIL (1896- ) CAREY BRAZIL (1936- ) (name legally changed to BRACEWELL, 1973) Carey From ???@??? Tue Mar 18 23:28:17 1997 Received: from emout24.mail.aol.com (emout24.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.129]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA07839 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:17:14 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout24.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA07978; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:16:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:16:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970318191348_-2107169833@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net cc: rof@backporch.com Subject: Carey's North Carolina Index, T.N.-ZELPHA BRASWELL T.N. CSA, Unity Ed 83, 87, 90 Urvin Way 55 Valentine Be 21,22,23,27,28,29,34,35,40,41; Bu 70; Ch 15,17,21,22,23; Chat 72 74, 75,77,78,80,83,84,90;Cu 75,77,78; Cr78; Du 73; Ed 40, 44; He 28; Or 46,48,51, 53,55,56,57,58,59,61,62,64,65,67,70; Wak 78,79,90, 91, 94; Joh 46,48,53,55,56,57, 67; Misc 91 Whitmell Misc 1812 Will CSA Wiley CSA William An 79, 81, 83; Be 21, 24,26,27,28,29,30,33,34,35,39,40,41,44; Bu 77, 1831; Chat 74,78,80,84; Ch 11,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,22,28,30,50; Do 69,70; Ed 41,42,43,45,46,47,48,49,52,55,60,61,62,63,64,66,70,71,74,79,80, 81,83,85,86,89,90,9293,94,96,97,98,1833,1839; He 15; Na 79, 82, 83, 90, 94, 96, 1823, 1827; Joh 53, 86, 87, 89, 90, 94, 95, 97, 99, 1803, 1807, 1808, 1809, 1827, 1844; Mo 79; No 49, 50, 56,57; Or 50, 61, 63,64,65,68,70,71,74; Ro 89,90,98,99,1802,1804,1807; Cu 56, 58; Warr 77; Cald 1854; Wata 1853; Misc 62; CSA (2), Misc 1812 Willie C. Misc (1846-47) Wilson CSA Wade An 1817 Willie Bur 1821; Ed 1845 Wilson Na 95; Mo 95* Winnie Ed 89, 1803 Zadoc Ed 89,92,96,1800; CSA Zelpha Ed 1807 (N.B. all two-digit dates are eighteenth century (1700-1799 A.D.) From ???@??? Wed Mar 19 10:58:21 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA08598 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 00:19:40 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 18 Mar 1997 23:06:56 -0700 Resent-Date: 18 Mar 1997 23:06:56 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:16:28 -0500 (EST) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970318181539_141661338@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: gayleell@cdsnet.net, Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Re: URL Resent-Message-ID: <"cT7Kg3.0.Cg7.-9uBp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/452 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Deciphering old handwriting is actually at URL http://www.firstct.com/fv/oldhand.html I was using right mouse, copy to clipboard and got the wrong answer. Cousin Foy From ???@??? Wed Mar 19 10:58:22 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA10223 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 00:36:22 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 18 Mar 1997 23:35:57 -0700 Resent-Date: 18 Mar 1997 23:35:57 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:35:12 -0500 (EST) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970318183250_1715399220@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: gayleell@cdsnet.net, Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Deciphering Old Handwriting Resent-Message-ID: <"YVYcQ2.0.6j1.DbuBp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/453 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Just thought I would throw in some nostalgia. My first cousin born 1917 and I born 1931 had the same handwriting teacher in grammar school. Those were the days of steel pens and inkwells in your desk. The exercises were push-pull and ovals. My cousin wound up with beautiful handwriting and I didn't. The teacher was an old spinster whose nickname was "Granny Wildcat." She got that name because of her correction habits such as throwing erasers at you, breaking rulers over your head, public spankings, etc. She also used some degrading adjectives and nouns when addressing you. Foy Braswell From ???@??? Wed Mar 19 10:58:24 1997 Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id FAA25267 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 05:22:11 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id GAA00368; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:21:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:21:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970319062138_180495561@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: gayleell@cdsnet.net cc: rof@backporch.com, braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Re: Talitha Brazil, aka Hodges, aka Kerby Dear Cousin Gayle, Nice work on Tallitha! As you surmised, she evidently married HODGE, then KIRBY, after outliving BV's father. The best reference I could find on the Moravian Germans, doubtless Tallitha's people, is Adelaide L. Fries, "The Records of the Moravians in North Carolina",which should be available in any large library. Have your North Carolina maps arrived yet? My next move on this research problem will be to plot out the period 1770-1800 on a traced map of the upper Yadkin area (Wilkes/Surry) and adjoining counties (Anson/Orange/Rowan) to see if the pattern confirms my thesis of SAMPSON & GEORGE as pioneering older sons of RICHARD & OBEDIENCE. You havn't commented on this strong possibility, but that's understandable given your excitement over your Tallitha discoveries! CAREY From ???@??? Wed Mar 19 10:58:26 1997 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id FAA25469 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 05:38:51 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id GAA17655; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:38:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:38:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970319063819_1781759311@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com cc: rof@backporch.com, braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Re: GOT YOUR PACKAGE! Dear Cousin Joyce, Pleased to hear my RICHARD BRACEWELL materials pleased you! The counterfeiter was RICHARD BRACEWELL, Jr. (d.c.1747), grandson of the Immigrant. He was acquited {even though caught deadbang} I believe, because the jury was sympathetic to his plight {everyone was getting ripped off by the Crown's so-called "mercantile policy" to the colonies, causing a chronic cash shortage} and to convict would have meant the automatic death penalty. Yes, you do descend through the legitimate line, evidently. That would be RICHARD BRACEWELL III, he of Edgecombe will of 1767. That was Bill Field's opinion, and mine. But the evidence will speak for itself, so it would appear we need to collect more of same from both the Georgia end and the Carolina end. CAREY From ???@??? Wed Mar 19 10:58:27 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA25594 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 05:46:18 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 19 Mar 1997 04:46:02 -0700 Resent-Date: 19 Mar 1997 04:46:02 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:24:49 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970319062448_280675402@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: Re: Deciphering Old Handwriting Resent-Message-ID: <"mO9RK3.0.HR.v7zBp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/454 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org Dear Cousin Foy, Thanks for sharing the nostalgia! Those who yearn for "the good old days" didn't live them, did they? :) CAREY From ???@??? Wed Mar 19 10:58:28 1997 Received: from emout03.mail.aol.com (emout03.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.94]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id FAA25739 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 05:54:04 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id GAA01068; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:52:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:52:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970319065259_-570357292@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: FoyBrasw@aol.com, gayleell@cdsnet.net cc: braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com Subject: Re: Carey's North Carolina Index, T.N.-ZELPHA BRASWELL Dear Cousin Foy, Answering your letters in reverse order: Edgecombe County is referred to as #13 (hopefully, "Lucky 13") on the transcribed listing of my NC index, and as "Ed" on the supplemental part I sent yesterday. I was working from my original index last night, so here are the other abbreviations therein" Mo--Moore; Pit--Pitt; Mitch--Mitchell; Be--Bertie; Ch--Chowan; Chat--Chatham; Cr--Craven; Or--Orange; Wak--Wake; Joh--Johnston; An--Anson; Do--Dobbs; He--Hertford; Na--Nash; No--Northampton; Cu--Cumberland; War--Warren; Cald--Caldwell; Wata--Watauga; Bur--Burke." From ???@??? Wed Mar 19 10:58:29 1997 Received: from emout20.mail.aol.com (emout20.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.46]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA25931 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:06:11 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id HAA03914; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:04:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:04:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970319070437_247530969@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: Timmww@ktc.com, braswell@pbmo.net, Timww@ktc.com cc: rof@backporch.com Subject: Re: William Braswell - 1680-1720 VA,NC Dear Cousin Tim, Hello, fellow Texan and Bracewell descendant! Yes, you are quite right about the WILLIAM BRACEWELL whose widow, MARY, married MOSES GINN in Bertie Precinct, NC, after 1721. He was the son of RICHARD BRACEWELL (c.1652-1725) & wife, SARAH VALENTINE(?), grandson of the Immigrant Anglican priest, Rev. ROBERT BRACEWELL (1611-1668). WILLIAM was not mentioned in either RICHARD's nor SARAH's will because he predeceased them both. Carey Bracewell (512) 280-6736 From ???@??? Wed Mar 19 16:12:32 1997 Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com (emout17.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.43]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA04339 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:11:44 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA12475 for braswell@pbmo.net; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:11:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:11:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970319161042_-1873681298@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown --------------------- Forwarded message: From: MAILER-DAEMON@aol.com (Mail Delivery Subsystem) To: CBracewell@aol.com Date: 97-03-19 07:06:21 EST The original message was received at Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:04:38 -0500 (EST) from root@localhost ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- Timmww@ktc.com (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to ns1.ktc.com.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 550 Timmww@ktc.com... User unknown ----- Original message follows ----- Return-Path: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id HAA03914; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:04:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:04:38 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970319070437_247530969@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: Timmww@ktc.com, braswell@pbmo.net, Timww@ktc.com cc: rof@backporch.com Subject: Re: William Braswell - 1680-1720 VA,NC Dear Cousin Tim, Hello, fellow Texan and Bracewell descendant! Yes, you are quite right about the WILLIAM BRACEWELL whose widow, MARY, married MOSES GINN in Bertie Precinct, NC, after 1721. He was the son of RICHARD BRACEWELL (c.1652-1725) & wife, SARAH VALENTINE(?), grandson of the Immigrant Anglican priest, Rev. ROBERT BRACEWELL (1611-1668). WILLIAM was not mentioned in either RICHARD's nor SARAH's will because he predeceased them both. Carey Bracewell (512) 280-6736 From ???@??? Wed Mar 19 16:12:33 1997 Received: from smtp2.fas.harvard.edu (root@smtp2.fas.harvard.edu [140.247.30.82]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA09442 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:42:56 -0600 Received: from smtp.fas.harvard.edu ([128.103.150.167]) by smtp2.fas.harvard.edu with SMTP id QAA07777 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:42:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970319164407.2ba7fd02@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: lbarron@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: timww@ktc.com From: Lucy Barron Subject: Re: William Braswell - 1680-1720 VA,NC Cc: braswell@pbmo.net Because of the vast confusion about the various Williams, this might be good information (along with the supporting documentation) to put on the BRASWELL homepage. Keith and Tim, what do you think? Lucy Barron Lexington, MA At 12:53 PM 3/18/97 PST, you wrote: > >Some time ago I posted a question concerning the father of William Braswell >(son of either Richard or Robert and a grandson of Rev. Robert.) The problem >has been that both Richard and Robert had sons named William and it has been >difficult to separate them. I am looking for father of the William who married Mary >(Wilson??) and moved to NC. Mary had later remarried Moses Guinn at least by >1726. I have since come across some very thorough research done by a relative of >my grandmother which suggests that this William's father must have been >Richard. I'm posting the reasoning for this below. It sounds pretty logical to me. > >Robert Braswell's widow (Susannah Burgess(?) Braswell Towle) gave land to her >sons Richard and William in her will. This will was recorded in Isle of Wight Co. on >6/26/1732. The will was presented by her son William Braswell, executor named >therein. Therefore, Robert and Susannah's son William was in Isle of Wight in >1732 and could not have been the William Braswell who moved to Chowan-Bertie >Co, NC and died in the 1720s. > >A copy of the will and the dates involved is included in the research. This is new >to me, but I realize it may already discussed on the list. If anyone has any ideas as >to why this might not be reliable, please let me know. > >Thanks, Tim Wilson >timww@ktc.com >Kerrville, Texas > > > > Lucy Barron Senior Serial Cataloger Widener Library, Rm. 87 Harvard University Cambridge, MA 02138 From ???@??? Wed Mar 19 18:04:50 1997 Received: from mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA09604 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:01:04 -0600 Received: from LOCALNAME ([207.146.81.86]) by mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA10886 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:00:23 +0000 Message-ID: <33308CCC.39E2@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:03:08 -0800 From: "John C. Howard, Jr." X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Braswell list X-URL: http://worldnet.unicom.net/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keith, Per your request, my city and state are: Mobile, Alabama Keep up the good work. John C. Howard, Jr. From ???@??? Thu Mar 20 08:32:15 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (qmailr@genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA17856 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:19:17 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 19 Mar 1997 23:18:39 -0700 Resent-Date: 19 Mar 1997 23:18:39 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; To: timww@ktc.com Cc: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: Re: William Braswell - 1680-1720 VA,NC Message-ID: <19970320.011620.3558.4.jameswgreen@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,4,6-78,80-92 From: jameswgreen@juno.com (James W. Green III) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 01:17:59 EST Resent-Message-ID: <"H7G4F.0.LT4.-QDCp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/455 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org On Tue, 18 Mar 97 12:53:15 PST timww@ktc.com writes: > >Some time ago I posted a question concerning the father of William >Braswell (son of either Richard or Robert and a grandson of Rev. Robert.) >The problem has been that both Richard and Robert had sons named William >and it has been difficult to separate them. Looking at the chart in the front of Dr. R.B. Braswell's book _Robert BRASWELL Jr. Rev. Robert___| 1650-1702____________William BRASWELL I Braswell | m. Susannah BURGESS Chowan County | 1680-1720 | m.Mary |_Richard BRASWELL m.Sarah Now adding from chart in front of WW Braswell's book which comes down on Richard son of the Reverend. _Robert BRASWELL Jr. Rev. Robert___| 1650-1702____________William BRASWELL I Braswell | m. Susannah BURGESS Chowan County | 1680-1720 | m.Mary | |_Richard BRASWELL __Richard BRASWELL Jr. 1651-1735____________| m.Sarah CROCKER m.Sarah Sampson |_Valentine BRASWELL Isle of Wight Co. VA | |_Jacob BRASWELL | |_Robert BRASWELL | |_John BRASWELL | |_& 3 daughters So, if W.W.Braswell's chart is complete, then where is the son of Richard b.1651 that is named William? >I am looking for father of the William who married Mary (Wilson??) >and moved to NC. I hear from previous discussions on this list that there is more than one "Mary (WILSON?)". W.C. Fields of Fayetteville NC told me that there was evidence that Mary wife of my William CARVER (alias BRASWELL) might be a Wilson. I have William's 1767 Cumberland Co NC will on the web at my url in the signature lines below. Click on "Braswell Pages". It shows his wife is a Mary & that he made her & Joseph Dunn and Silvenus Wilson his executors. If that is the basis, then she could as easily be a Dunn. >Mary had later remarried Moses Guinn at least by 1726. That means your Mary is older than my Mary, I will drop the Wilson subject & repeat where is William the son of Richard b.1651. Looks like we need more wills on the web. >I have since come across some very thorough research done by a >relative of my grandmother which suggests that this William's >father must have been Richard. I'm posting the reasoning for >this below. It sounds pretty logical to me. > >Robert Braswell's widow (Susannah Burgess(?) Braswell Towle) gave >land to her sons Richard and William in her will. This will was >recorded in Isle of Wight Co. on 6/26/1732. The will was presented >by her son William Braswell, executor named therein. Therefore, >Robert and Susannah's son William was in Isle of Wight in 1732 and >could not have been the William Braswell who moved to Chowan-Bertie >Co, NC and died in the 1720s. Good point. Dead men don't bring in their mom's will. But can we trust that Susannah Burgess' son died in 1720 like the chart says? Perhaps some of you have photocopies of the will of William who d.1720. >A copy of the will and the dates involved is included in the research. > This is new to me, but I realize it may already discussed on the list. >If anyone has any ideas as to why this might not be reliable, please >let me know. > >Thanks, Tim Wilson >timww@ktc.com >Kerrville, Texas I too await postings of the other experts. -- James W. Green III / Rt.5, Box 720 / Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA home:803-635-9236 http://emcee.com/~green http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/9389 From ???@??? Thu Mar 20 08:32:20 1997 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id FAA01298 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 05:50:13 -0600 From: NShock@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id GAA05779 for braswell@pbmo.net; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:49:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:49:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970320064941_1749136909@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Name to go with E-Mail address NShock@aol.com (Nancy Hawkins Shockey in Glendale, Ariozna) From ???@??? Thu Mar 20 14:12:37 1997 Received: from emout02.mail.aol.com (emout02.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.93]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA27129 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:43:06 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id NAA05286 for braswell@pbmo.net; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:42:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:42:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970320134229_1150927507@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Fwd: Sarah Valentine as the wife of Richard Bracewell (c.1652-1725) --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Sarah Valentine as the wife of Richard Bracewell (c.1652-1725) Date: 97-03-16 12:12:06 EST From: CBracewell To: jameswgreen@juno.com Dear Cousin James, The evidence that our first American RICHARD's wife SARAH was a VALENTINE is, as usual with Braswells, circumstantial. The opinion was first expressed ex-cathedra by no less an authority than Katherine Edwards, former County Clerk of Isle of Wight County, Bracewell descendant, and professional genealogist. Given the prevailing custom of naming a younger son after his mother's family (e.g. "Braswell Bridger", near some Braswells on the 1740 List of Bertie & Edgecombe Jurymen ) it would stand to reason that the unique naming of one of his youngest son "Valentine" has family meaning. That "Valentine" was a unique name--not a "fad"name--is proved by the same list of Bertie/Edgecombe veniremen cited above{Secretary of State. THE COLONIAL RECORDS OF NORTH CAROLINA, Vol. 4, p.523+} in which only one "Valentine" appears on this list of 470 adult men, none other than our "VALL BRASSWELL", #431. Finally, the fact that VALENTINE's descendants faithfully perpetuated this well-known FFV {First Family of Virginia} name is significant evidence in itself, made the more so by the less than saintly lifestyle of this original VALENTINE (c.1692-1766). First off, he married a Quaker (JANE POPE) down in the turpentine forests of south Isle of Wight,{which could not have endeared him to his more conservative Anglican relatives}, seats himself within 100 yards of the then-undetermined provincial boundary between Virginia and North Carolina (so as to confound the authorities, no doubt), and next shows himself being slapped with a peace bond by one SARAH TAYLOR in Bertie Precinct July 14, 1729. Even though a married father, he had to post a 40-pound bond that he would leave SARAH alone "for the space of One year and a Day." Not that old VAL is a serious contender for Cousin Foy's "Braswell Rascal of the Month" (unless we're running out of candidates! :) :) :D), but his history after that was, well, undistinguished. In the early 1730's he joins his more ambitious brothers in the Tar Valley in Bertie/Edgecombe. He must have been employed in the naval stores industry, for when that industry experienced a downturn and Granville simultaneously opened the southwest Piedmont to settlement in the mid-1740's, old VAL was first in line to grab some free land in Orange County. That he had a not-so gentle nudge to go west is shown by SAMPSON WILLIAMS to SAMUEL WILLIAMS, for 30 pounds, 320 acres on N/S Tar River at mouth of Cypress Creek "whereon VALENTINE BRASWELL now lives." (Edgecombe DB 5-462, signed March 4, 1744.} VALENTINE & sons settled at the head of the Cape Fear River where they opened an inn ("Ordinary") and ferryboat operation at the confluence of the Deep & Haw rivers. We may speculate VAL learned this business living near similar ferry operations in Virginia. At any rate, the rest of VAL's story is one of bad debts, since he was apparently good at winning people's trust. We only know that he died c. 1766 because a series of lawsuits against him were dropped at that time since "he could not be found." What a guy! So you see it's probably identification with the FFV Valentines rather than the dubious reputation of its original bearer that caused this name to be perpetuated in this line down to this century. For example, there were VALENTINE BRAZILs in Arkansas well into the 1900's, long after anyone remembered anything about the original connection! I should like to see what "evidence" would have our SARAH be a SAMPSON! Anent that, Iwould imagine the Biblical character "Sampson" was the original inspiration for that name. Yours for fun sleuthing, CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Thu Mar 20 14:20:56 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (qmailr@genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA10647 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:17:00 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 20 Mar 1997 12:52:31 -0700 Resent-Date: 20 Mar 1997 12:52:31 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; To: york@wishkah.techline.com Cc: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Re: Jacob Braswell Message-ID: <19970320.142742.3558.3.jameswgreen@juno.com> References: <199703201318.FAA20382@mail.techline.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-20 From: jameswgreen@juno.com (James W. Green III) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:29:16 EST Resent-Message-ID: <"9azgS3.0.gJ4.yLPCp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/456 X-Loop: braswell-l@genealogy.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org On Thu, 20 Mar 1997 05:16:56 -0800 "Cal York" writes: >I have a Jacob Burton Braswell, b unknown. Married Martha Herndon, b >September 20, 1842 in Winston, Alabama, d March 12, 1934 in St. Louis, >Missouri. She is from the Joel Herndon line. She would be my GG Aunt. >I notice you had a Jacob Braswell, and thought I'd inquire. >Thanks Cal York Where'd you see that I have a Jacob Braswell? I don't have one in my pedigree & know of none in my gedcoms that Cliff Manis has. Anyway, I am herewith sending this to the Braswell List. If you are not subscribed to the list & have Braswell ancestors, I think you should join. It is free of cost. To subscribe send email to the server Braswell-L-Request@Genealogy.Org and in the subject type: Subscribe -- James W. Green III / Rt.5, Box 720 / Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA home:803-635-9236 http://emcee.com/~green http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/9389 From ???@??? Thu Mar 20 16:13:29 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (qmailr@genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA17653 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:57:24 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 20 Mar 1997 13:56:11 -0700 Resent-Date: 20 Mar 1997 13:56:10 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:43:21 -0500 (EST) From: REllis1900@aol.com Message-ID: <970320114258_-570199020@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: Braswell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"D8yOt3.0.xZ.fHQCp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/457 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Since there are several new subscribers to the group since I last polled the group, here’s my “stopper”: David Braswell born about 1780 in NC, died 1832 in Crawford Cty. GA Spouse Nancy _______ Children: 1) Son Timothy b. abt. 1810 in NC, m. Sirena Ogburn, Crawford Cty. 2) Son William Timothy and Sirena had a son named Green Henry Braswell (1849-1909) who lived and died in Crawford County. He married Mary Elizabeth Horn. My question: Who was the father of David Braswell? Honorable mention in my will for the (correct) answer! Thanks again to Keith for all his dilligent efforts on our collective behalf. Also a raspberry to the occasional un-cousinlike interjection. Pfffft!! Rich Ellis Cedar Park, TX From ???@??? Thu Mar 20 19:33:10 1997 Received: from emout20.mail.aol.com (emout20.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.46]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA07094 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:12:50 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA01363; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:11:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:11:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970320201138_-1371130573@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net, FoyBrasw@aol.com cc: rof@backporch.com, MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com Subject: WILLIAM BRACEWELL (c.1676-c.1721) Dear Cousin Keith, Please share the following about the above-named character with interested membership, hopefully untangling questions about him for the present: The misinformation that the Immigrant Rev. ROBERT, had a son,"William" is entirely false and specious, whatever its memeographed source! There was a "Bracewell-Towle" child by that name which is perhaps the source of the confusion. These "Bracewell-Towle's", offspring of commoner RICHARD TOWLE {by his 1692 will}, and SUSANNAH BURGESS BRACEWELL {will 1714}stayed around Isle of Wight for the most part where they sort of fizzled out with the declining fertility of the Tidewater soils......North Carolina was almost exclusively pioneered by the legitimate sons of RICHARD & SARAH VALENTINE(?) BRACEWELL. That WILLIAM was probably third son of RICHARD & SARAH follows from (a) ROBERT & RICHARD, Jr. appear earlier in Isle of Wight legal documents, and (b) that it would be following a familiar Bracewell naming pattern that goes back to at least Tudor England (Grantham Parish, Lincoln), in this case, RICHARD, Jr. (c. 1672) preceeds ROBERT (c.1674). Then comes WILLIAM (and "there has been one in every Bracewell--pronounced brazul--colony and family ever since," according to one knowledgeable Bracewell descendant! It is certainly true here in the Southwest, where the name is usually preceeded by "Wild".... Billy Brazul does have a certain rhythm, doesn't it?) I could tell you some Wild Bill tales..... :) That WILLIAM was born before Oct. 9, 1682, is shown by Isle of Wight DB 1, 1688-1704, p. 401 which, on same date in 1703, WILLIAM ("W") BRACEWELL witnessed WILLIAM & MARTHA BROWNE to RICHARD BRACEWELL JUNr, 35 acres of a patent of 156 acres on the S/S main Blackwater granted to BROWNE 10/28/1702.The purchased tract was on Browne's Spring Branch to WILLIAM BROWNE's line...all the land on the northwest corner of the original grant. William was a fiesty character, as shown by a 1719 assault case {WILLIAM assaulted Constable RICHARD WASHINGTON on April Fools Day that year} I'll share later. While most of his brothers waited until after the Tuscarora War (1713) to move from the Blackwater area of Lower Parish, Isle of Wight,to Chowan Precinct, North Carolina, our William was there patenting land as early as March 4, 1711/12! {North Carolina Grants & File Folders, State Archives, Raleigh: Book 1, p. 173. WILLIAM BRASWELL granted 1280 acres on Cypress Swamp "issuing out of Morattuck (Meherrin) River. WILLIAM goes on to patent large tracts of land in the Albemarle Sound (Chowan Pct.) area until he patents his last on Nov. 2, 1720, on ehich date he patented yet another 100 acres on his beloved Cypress Swamp. Next we find MARY BRASWELL, Widow, paying poll tax on 1600 acres in Chowan for the years 1720 & 1721. She received a grant for 300 acres in Chowan on the N/S Morattock River beginning at "BRASWELLs supposed line" {WILLIAM's last entry no doubt}to WILLIAM BRASWELLs corner..."to a cypress in the low grounds of the river..." {Ibid., Grant #552, Book 3, p. 109} on September 8, 1722. But MARY was acquiring land in her own name as early as "8ber" (October) 21, 1721, when she bought 190a N/S Meherrin River from WILLIAM & MARY COLLINS of Nansemond Co.,Va., hence the estimated date of WILLIAM's demise is Circa 1721. We know that MARY, widow of WILLIAM BRACEWELL, had married MOSES GINN by November 4, 1726, when the two sold 300 acres in Bertie Precinct to JOHN POWER. That the two had indeed married is proved by Bertie DB C-119 in which MARY GINN is identified as the "late wife of WILLIAM BRACEWELL, dec'd". In this instrument MOSES & wife, MARY convey MARY's dower to remaining lands patented by WILLIAM BRACEWELL, dec'd tp "WILLIAM BRACEWELL, son of WILLIAM BRACEWELL and MARY BRACEWELL alias GINN..." William & Mary Bracewell had other children than WILLIAM. THOMAS BROWN to JOHN ROGERS, Jr. for 110a N/S Meherring River dated November Court, 1726 (Bertie DB B-182) was witnessed by JACOB BRACEWELL & MARY BRACEWELL. The identity of other of WIliam & Mary's offspring, and their connection if any with the Halifax Braswells, are among the many mysteries surrounding this branch. That they profited much by old WILLIAM's early and persistent patenting is patently obvious! It only remains to be pointed out that WILLIAM is not mentioned in either parents (RICHARD or SARAH's) will because he predeceased them both. On another matter, the location of the Bracewell colony that formed up c. 1715 in Chowan Precinct on "Potocasy" & "Catawisky" meadows, these features can be seen on the Moseley 1733 map, available from the State Archives, Raleigh. Look just north of the Bertie Court House, Bertie County. This was the first North Carolina stop (before Edgecombe) for WILLIAM's brothers {excluding stay-behind baby brother JOHN}. It was in the area of present Rich Square, Northampton Co., NC. CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Thu Mar 20 22:55:19 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (qmailr@genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA08650 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:43:18 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 20 Mar 1997 20:41:02 -0700 Resent-Date: 20 Mar 1997 20:41:00 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:13:46 -0500 (EST) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970320221334_-603696479@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Polly Brazzel Resent-Message-ID: <"MhQ0n.0.ET6.6DWCp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/458 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com I wondered how our ancestors got divorced. I found a good book in the library - "Tennessee Divorce Laws 1797-1858" by Gale W. Bramman. I may publish a summary of the laws later. There was only one ancestor in the book, but she was a rascal. Cousin Carey Bracewell aptly called this "Polly's Folly." RODGERS, JAMES 18 October 1833 SUMNER COUNTY James Rodgers was married in Sumner County on 25 April 1833 to POLLY BRAZZEL of Sumner County. He lived with her "until June last." Polly would not permit him to cohabit with her, or "treat him as a wife should treat a husband." She went to Gallatin and took goods in his name up to $100.00 and returned home, took his only horse and saddle and left him. She says she only married him for his property and that she won't live with him. He last heard she was on her way to Nashville. He believes she is guilty of adultry, but has no proof. 269-1833 From ???@??? Fri Mar 21 10:34:05 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA20266 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 03:34:49 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 21 Mar 1997 00:21:03 -0700 Resent-Date: 21 Mar 1997 00:21:02 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <199703210720.XAA09604@ico.com> From: "Nona Williams" To: , Subject: Re: Polly Brazzel Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:20:02 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"8KTuQ.0.YG.QRZCp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/459 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com It may interest you to know that Gale Bamman is a descendant of William Williams and Lucreasy Braswell, as I am. -Nona ---------- > From: FoyBrasw@aol.com > To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org > Subject: Polly Brazzel > Date: Thursday, March 20, 1997 7:13 PM > > I wondered how our ancestors got divorced. I found a good book in the > library - > "Tennessee Divorce Laws 1797-1858" by Gale W. Bramman. I may publish a > summary of the laws later. There was only one ancestor in the book, but she > was a rascal. Cousin Carey Bracewell aptly called this "Polly's Folly." > > RODGERS, JAMES 18 October 1833 SUMNER COUNTY > James Rodgers was married in Sumner County on 25 April 1833 to POLLY BRAZZEL > of Sumner County. He lived with her "until June last." Polly would not > permit him to cohabit with her, or "treat him as a wife should treat a > husband." She went to Gallatin and took goods in his name up to $100.00 and > returned home, took his only horse and saddle and left him. She says she > only married him for his property and that she won't live with him. He last > heard she was on her way to Nashville. He believes she is guilty of adultry, > but has no proof. > 269-1833 From ???@??? Fri Mar 21 22:44:11 1997 Received: from Sprite.viptx.net (root@Sprite.viptx.net [208.193.14.4]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA11712 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:41:04 -0600 Received: from joyz.BWEB.NET (b2-09.bweb.net [208.193.15.47]) by Sprite.viptx.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA15070 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:40:56 -0600 Message-ID: <33330BC9.6D9D@bweb.net> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:29:29 +0000 From: Joy Zowie X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Braswell X-URL: http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/braslink.html#braswellind Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keith, I just came upon your page. Just wondered if you know a Sylvia Rose BUTCHER BRASWELL? She has done extensive research on ALL of her surnames. At this time she doesn't have an e-mail address, but I could send you her snail address. I remember her saying that her husband's BRASWELL'S were from Arkansas. So maybe you could help each other. Sylvia is my first cousin once removed. (I beleive) Her Dad & my Grandmother were siblings. Joy Goade Zowie joyz@bweb.net From ???@??? Sat Mar 22 09:45:00 1997 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id FAA16199 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 05:11:07 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id GAA11215; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 06:10:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 06:10:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970322061003_-1002318416@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: REllis1900@aol.com cc: braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com Subject: Re: Braswell Dear Cousin Rich, I located your DAVID BRASWELL's family on the 1830 Federal Census of Crawford County, Georgia, noting that he also had a son(?) named ARTHUR. I think an examination of the records of Robeson County, North Carolina, might be useful to solving this research problem: The will of ARTHUR BRASWELL of Robeson, signed 18 January 1819 names a son, DAVID. ARTHUR definitely ties to the Edgecombe-Nash "mother lode" of Braswells. He was patenting land on Ashpole Swamp in Bladen (now Robeson) by 1787. Since we live in the same metropolitan area, why don't you come and examine my Braswell records in person? We live south (naturally! :D), @ 9322 Lightwood Loop, just north of the intersection of Brodie & Slaughter lanes, in upscale Milburn's "Cherry Creek II". Call 280-6736. CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Sat Mar 22 09:45:01 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (qmailr@genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA19753 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:28:05 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 21 Mar 1997 15:23:19 -0700 Resent-Date: 21 Mar 1997 15:23:18 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:20:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970321172211.32772fb6@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: lbarron@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: braswell-l@genealogy.org From: Lucy Barron Subject: Re: William Braswell - 1680-1720 VA,NC Resent-Message-ID: <"pIaxV2.0.Lu3.HfmCp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/460 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com >Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:43:14 >To: jameswgreen@juno.com (James W. Green III) >From: Lucy Barron >Subject: Re: William Braswell - 1680-1720 VA,NC > >I also have heard repeatedly the claim that Richard also had a son named William. Since records definitely seem to support the more than one William claim, it would make sense that Richard also had a son so named. Plus the Bertie Co., NC records definitely state the Mary GUINN was previously the wife of William and had a son named William. > >As for the charts in Dr. Braswell's book --While his book is certainly a contribution to BRASWELL genealogy, this is the same book that omits sources and blithely states it doesn't really matter whether William was the son of Richard or Robert since they were both descended from the immigrant. NOTHING should be taken from his book without further research. > >As for a child's omission from the will-- 1) William BRASWELL m. Mary (WILSON???) predeceased him. 2) If he had already received his inheritance from the father, there would have been no need. 3) Also the British laws of primogeniture (sp?) make it unnecessary for a man to name the first born son in a will. The will (at that time at least) is only for if you want other children to get something. As one moves further away from the British immigrant (and especially Virginia), one doesn't have to worry so much about whether the 1st born was named or not in the will (as usually they all were); and primogeniture fell out of favor here. Indeed widows who left wills more often than not only name a few of the children whom they wish to get a little something extra. A will is not nearly as good a document as an Administration of the Estate record where all the heirs (deceased or otherwise) must be named (although I'm not quite sure how these worked in early Virginia while primogeniture was still prevalent). > >Lucy Barron >Lexington, MA > >At 01:17 AM 3/20/97 EST, you wrote: >>On Tue, 18 Mar 97 12:53:15 PST timww@ktc.com writes: >>> >>>Some time ago I posted a question concerning the father of William >>>Braswell (son of either Richard or Robert and a grandson of Rev. >>Robert.) >>>The problem has been that both Richard and Robert had sons named William >> >>>and it has been difficult to separate them. >> >>Looking at the chart in the front of Dr. R.B. Braswell's book >> _Robert BRASWELL Jr. >>Rev. Robert___| 1650-1702____________William BRASWELL I >>Braswell | m. Susannah BURGESS Chowan County >> | 1680-1720 >> | m.Mary >> |_Richard BRASWELL >> m.Sarah >> >>Now adding from chart in front of WW Braswell's book which comes >>down on Richard son of the Reverend. >> >> _Robert BRASWELL Jr. >>Rev. Robert___| 1650-1702____________William BRASWELL I >>Braswell | m. Susannah BURGESS Chowan County >> | 1680-1720 >> | m.Mary >> | >> |_Richard BRASWELL __Richard BRASWELL Jr. >> 1651-1735____________| m.Sarah CROCKER >> m.Sarah Sampson |_Valentine BRASWELL >> Isle of Wight Co. VA | >> |_Jacob BRASWELL >> | >> |_Robert BRASWELL >> | >> |_John BRASWELL >> | >> |_& 3 daughters >> >>So, if W.W.Braswell's chart is complete, then where is the son >>of Richard b.1651 that is named William? >> >>>I am looking for father of the William who married Mary (Wilson??) >>>and moved to NC. >> >>I hear from previous discussions on this list that there is more >>than one "Mary (WILSON?)". W.C. Fields of Fayetteville NC told >>me that there was evidence that Mary wife of my William CARVER >>(alias BRASWELL) might be a Wilson. I have William's 1767 Cumberland >>Co NC will on the web at my url in the signature lines below. >>Click on "Braswell Pages". It shows his wife is a Mary & that >>he made her & Joseph Dunn and Silvenus Wilson his executors. >>If that is the basis, then she could as easily be a Dunn. >> >>>Mary had later remarried Moses Guinn at least by 1726. >> >>That means your Mary is older than my Mary, I will drop the >>Wilson subject & repeat where is William the son of Richard b.1651. >>Looks like we need more wills on the web. >> >>>I have since come across some very thorough research done by a >>>relative of my grandmother which suggests that this William's >>>father must have been Richard. I'm posting the reasoning for >>>this below. It sounds pretty logical to me. >>> >>>Robert Braswell's widow (Susannah Burgess(?) Braswell Towle) gave >>>land to her sons Richard and William in her will. This will was >>>recorded in Isle of Wight Co. on 6/26/1732. The will was presented >>>by her son William Braswell, executor named therein. Therefore, >>>Robert and Susannah's son William was in Isle of Wight in 1732 and >>>could not have been the William Braswell who moved to Chowan-Bertie >>>Co, NC and died in the 1720s. >> >>Good point. Dead men don't bring in their mom's will. But can >>we trust that Susannah Burgess' son died in 1720 like the chart >>says? Perhaps some of you have photocopies of the will of William >>who d.1720. >> >>>A copy of the will and the dates involved is included in the research. >>> This is new to me, but I realize it may already discussed on the list. >> >>>If anyone has any ideas as to why this might not be reliable, please >>>let me know. >>> >>>Thanks, Tim Wilson >>>timww@ktc.com >>>Kerrville, Texas >> >>I too await postings of the other experts. >>-- >>James W. Green III / Rt.5, Box 720 / Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA >>home:803-635-9236 http://emcee.com/~green >>http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/9389 >> >> > Lucy Barron Senior Serial Cataloger Widener Library, Rm. 87 Harvard University Cambridge, MA 02138 From ???@??? Sat Mar 22 16:57:55 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (qmailr@genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA01356 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:47:02 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 21 Mar 1997 16:22:02 -0700 Resent-Date: 21 Mar 1997 16:22:02 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:03:31 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970321180327_-737832379@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@emcee.com, FoyBrasw@aol.com cc: rof@backporch.com Subject: Re: Polly Brazzel Resent-Message-ID: <"gLsks1.0.vX6.MWnCp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/461 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Dear Cousin, After a good "ROFL" at "Polly's Folly", had to d/l it immediately and add it to our growing "Cousin Foy Braswell's BRASWELL RASCAL-OF-THE-MONTH" candidate file! What a hoot! And a blood member of the family at that! {We can explain away SUSANNAH BURGESS and CALLEY POWELL as "Those people...", but POLLY BRAZZEL was definitely one of us! :D CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Sat Mar 22 16:57:57 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (qmailr@genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA20768 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 12:56:30 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 21 Mar 1997 23:13:33 -0700 Resent-Date: 21 Mar 1997 23:13:33 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970322001255.007bbb20@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 00:12:55 -0600 To: CBracewell@aol.com From: Keith Braswell Subject: Re: Carey's North Carolina Index, T.N.-ZELPHA BRASWELL Cc: Braswell-L@Genealogy.Org In-Reply-To: <970318191348_-2107169833@emout13.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"8v2Wf3.0.il1.AYtCp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/462 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Carey, I edited these for you and posted them to the web. Check them out and let me know if I made any mistakes.... Thanks, Keith see: http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/genealogy/indicenc.txt At 07:16 PM 3/18/97 -0500, CBracewell@aol.com wrote: >T.N. CSA, >Unity Ed 83, 87, 90 >Urvin Way 55 >Valentine Be 21,22,23,27,28,29,34,35,40,41; Bu 70; Ch 15,17,21,22,23; >Chat 72 74, 75,77,78,80,83,84,90;Cu 75,77,78; Cr78; Du 73; Ed 40, 44; He 28; >Or 46,48,51, >53,55,56,57,58,59,61,62,64,65,67,70; Wak 78,79,90, 91, 94; Joh >46,48,53,55,56,57, >67; Misc 91 > >Whitmell Misc 1812 >Will CSA >Wiley CSA >William An 79, 81, 83; Be 21, 24,26,27,28,29,30,33,34,35,39,40,41,44; >Bu 77, 1831; Chat 74,78,80,84; Ch 11,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,22,28,30,50; Do >69,70; Ed 41,42,43,45,46,47,48,49,52,55,60,61,62,63,64,66,70,71,74,79,80, >81,83,85,86,89,90,9293,94,96,97,98,1833,1839; He 15; Na 79, 82, 83, 90, 94, >96, 1823, 1827; Joh 53, 86, 87, 89, 90, 94, 95, 97, 99, 1803, 1807, 1808, >1809, 1827, 1844; Mo 79; No 49, 50, 56,57; Or 50, 61, 63,64,65,68,70,71,74; >Ro 89,90,98,99,1802,1804,1807; Cu 56, 58; Warr 77; Cald 1854; Wata 1853; Misc >62; >CSA (2), Misc 1812 > >Willie C. Misc (1846-47) >Wilson CSA >Wade An 1817 >Willie Bur 1821; Ed 1845 >Wilson Na 95; Mo 95* >Winnie Ed 89, 1803 >Zadoc Ed 89,92,96,1800; CSA >Zelpha Ed 1807 > >(N.B. all two-digit dates are eighteenth century (1700-1799 A.D.) > > > David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Sat Mar 22 16:57:59 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (qmailr@genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA25717 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:31:07 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 22 Mar 1997 03:47:45 -0700 Resent-Date: 22 Mar 1997 03:47:44 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 05:45:17 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970322054517_209979692@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Fwd: WILLIAM BRACEWELL (c.1676-c.1721) Resent-Message-ID: <"wtYXQ2.0.Ae2.DZxCp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/463 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: WILLIAM BRACEWELL (c.1676-c.1721) Date: 97-03-20 20:11:45 EST From: CBracewell To: braswell@pbmo.net,Foy Brasw CC: rof@backporch.com CC: MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com Dear Cousin Keith, Please share the following about the above-named character with interested membership, hopefully untangling questions about him for the present: The misinformation that the Immigrant Rev. ROBERT, had a son,"William" is entirely false and specious, whatever its memeographed source! There was a "Bracewell-Towle" child by that name which is perhaps the source of the confusion. These "Bracewell-Towle's", offspring of commoner RICHARD TOWLE {by his 1692 will}, and SUSANNAH BURGESS BRACEWELL {will 1714}stayed around Isle of Wight for the most part where they sort of fizzled out with the declining fertility of the Tidewater soils......North Carolina was almost exclusively pioneered by the legitimate sons of RICHARD & SARAH VALENTINE(?) BRACEWELL. That WILLIAM was probably third son of RICHARD & SARAH follows from (a) ROBERT & RICHARD, Jr. appear earlier in Isle of Wight legal documents, and (b) that it would be following a familiar Bracewell naming pattern that goes back to at least Tudor England (Grantham Parish, Lincoln), in this case, RICHARD, Jr. (c. 1672) preceeds ROBERT (c.1674). Then comes WILLIAM (and "there has been one in every Bracewell--pronounced brazul--colony and family ever since," according to one knowledgeable Bracewell descendant! It is certainly true here in the Southwest, where the name is usually preceeded by "Wild".... Billy Brazul does have a certain rhythm, doesn't it?) I could tell you some Wild Bill tales..... :) That WILLIAM was born before Oct. 9, 1682, is shown by Isle of Wight DB 1, 1688-1704, p. 401 which, on same date in 1703, WILLIAM ("W") BRACEWELL witnessed WILLIAM & MARTHA BROWNE to RICHARD BRACEWELL JUNr, 35 acres of a patent of 156 acres on the S/S main Blackwater granted to BROWNE 10/28/1702.The purchased tract was on Browne's Spring Branch to WILLIAM BROWNE's line...all the land on the northwest corner of the original grant. William was a fiesty character, as shown by a 1719 assault case {WILLIAM assaulted Constable RICHARD WASHINGTON on April Fools Day that year} I'll share later. While most of his brothers waited until after the Tuscarora War (1713) to move from the Blackwater area of Lower Parish, Isle of Wight,to Chowan Precinct, North Carolina, our William was there patenting land as early as March 4, 1711/12! {North Carolina Grants & File Folders, State Archives, Raleigh: Book 1, p. 173. WILLIAM BRASWELL granted 1280 acres on Cypress Swamp "issuing out of Morattuck (Meherrin) River. WILLIAM goes on to patent large tracts of land in the Albemarle Sound (Chowan Pct.) area until he patents his last on Nov. 2, 1720, on ehich date he patented yet another 100 acres on his beloved Cypress Swamp. Next we find MARY BRASWELL, Widow, paying poll tax on 1600 acres in Chowan for the years 1720 & 1721. She received a grant for 300 acres in Chowan on the N/S Morattock River beginning at "BRASWELLs supposed line" {WILLIAM's last entry no doubt}to WILLIAM BRASWELLs corner..."to a cypress in the low grounds of the river..." {Ibid., Grant #552, Book 3, p. 109} on September 8, 1722. But MARY was acquiring land in her own name as early as "8ber" (October) 21, 1721, when she bought 190a N/S Meherrin River from WILLIAM & MARY COLLINS of Nansemond Co.,Va., hence the estimated date of WILLIAM's demise is Circa 1721. We know that MARY, widow of WILLIAM BRACEWELL, had married MOSES GINN by November 4, 1726, when the two sold 300 acres in Bertie Precinct to JOHN POWER. That the two had indeed married is proved by Bertie DB C-119 in which MARY GINN is identified as the "late wife of WILLIAM BRACEWELL, dec'd". In this instrument MOSES & wife, MARY convey MARY's dower to remaining lands patented by WILLIAM BRACEWELL, dec'd tp "WILLIAM BRACEWELL, son of WILLIAM BRACEWELL and MARY BRACEWELL alias GINN..." William & Mary Bracewell had other children than WILLIAM. THOMAS BROWN to JOHN ROGERS, Jr. for 110a N/S Meherring River dated November Court, 1726 (Bertie DB B-182) was witnessed by JACOB BRACEWELL & MARY BRACEWELL. The identity of other of WIliam & Mary's offspring, and their connection if any with the Halifax Braswells, are among the many mysteries surrounding this branch. That they profited much by old WILLIAM's early and persistent patenting is patently obvious! It only remains to be pointed out that WILLIAM is not mentioned in either parents (RICHARD or SARAH's) will because he predeceased them both. On another matter, the location of the Bracewell colony that formed up c. 1715 in Chowan Precinct on "Potocasy" & "Catawisky" meadows, these features can be seen on the Moseley 1733 map, available from the State Archives, Raleigh. Look just north of the Bertie Court House, Bertie County. This was the first North Carolina stop (before Edgecombe) for WILLIAM's brothers {excluding stay-behind baby brother JOHN}. It was in the area of present Rich Square, Northampton Co., NC. CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Sat Mar 22 16:58:01 1997 Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA11381 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:18:33 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA23156; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 16:17:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 16:17:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970322161728_772842082@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: Lbarron@fas.harvard.edu cc: braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com Subject: Cousin Roy B. Braswell's book Dear Cousin Lucy, Of course you are right about checking Dr. Braswell's statements--where you can guess at the references--because much of them are in fact specious. He was an affable fellow with an obvious love of family,and I never thought his little book "Following the Braswells on the move Westward in America" would cause so much mischief! {If you've been following the exchanges at the Braswell website, you know what I mean.} For at the time he was putting out the first printing of this historical fiction, I was publishing my "Braswell Quarterly" which was a compendium of Braswell documents along with informed commentary. Inasmuch as I sent the quarterly to a number of major libraries, I assumed any future Braswell researcher would find my work, not his. Surprise! He accepted without verification the conclusions of other Braswell searchers of the day and blithly printed them alongside his own unsupported assertions. Now a lot of folks are in for a lot of rethinking! Let me know how I can help with your Braswell lineage. I'm impressed with your work location, even though I have an advanced Eastern college degree, too! (MS in Management, GWU). My Dad always says he "went through Harvard, too....In one door and out the other! " (Harvard's Chaplains' training school, WW II). CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Sun Mar 23 00:04:42 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA17825 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:14:23 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 22 Mar 1997 22:13:15 -0700 Resent-Date: 22 Mar 1997 22:13:15 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-ID: <333796FC.65C8@concentric.net> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:12:28 -0800 From: "Theresa M. Reynolds" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: Sampson Bracewell b.ca 1735 References: <199702281826.KAA25828@ico.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"AUkia1.0.yC7.elBDp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/465 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com > If this Samuel married first to Miss Moore and second to Sarah (Hunt)?, the > three youngest children (including Sampson) would likely have been Sarah's > children. Nona, According to Ronnie Bracewell and Ray Tapley, two fellow researchers of my Bracewell line in Laurens County Georgia, Sampson Bracewell, the son of Richard Bracewell of Edgecombe County, NC, married Miss Moore on May 31, 1762. I have not seen this document so I do not know if it is Sampson or Samuel. Here is a brief listing of their reasoning for Sampsons parentage: Sampson first appeared in the records of Edgecombe County when he witnessed a sale of land in November 1757. On March 21, 1760, he bought from Richard Bracewell, Sr., a 119 acre plantation on the south bank of the Tar River, adjoining James Bracewell and said Richard Bracewell. 87 acres of this tract were part of a tract granted to Francis Griss bearing date June 8, 1739. Another part of the tract granted to Francis Grise was purchased from Thomas Grise of Johnston County on October 30, 1762 by James Bracewell. The sale was witnessed by Sampson, Solomon and Richard Bracewell ( DB 1-477 ). Sampson is not heard from again until his father died leaving a will dated December 7, 1767 and probated in January Court in 1772. Sampson's father, Richard, left him the land on the Tar River and Nahunta Path. Other children mentioned in the will were: James, Solomon, Richard, William, Sarah, Mary and ELizabeth ( WB 4-193 ) This Sampson was the father of Richard Bracewell who married Charity Scarborough, daughter of Ephraim Scarborough of Edgecombe County, NC, and Sampson Bracewell who married Elizabeth Scarborough, daughter of William Scarborough ( brother of Ephraim ). In a deed record, dated December 14, 1795, in Edgecombe County, NC, it gives Sampson Bracewell of Washington County, Georgia, as son of Richard Bracewell, deceased ( DB 8-548 ). Laurens County, Georgia was formed from Washington County. Sampson died between 1813 - 1818 based upon a deed recorded in DB G-75 of Laurens County, Georgia. The record shows Sampson, son of Sampson Bracewell, and his wife Elizabeth selling 366 acres to John R Irvin, date January 31, 1818. 300 acres of this tract had been granted originally to John Stokes, by him to Deactron Davis, by him to Benjamin Harrison and by him to Sampson Bracewell by deed April 21, 1803. Sampson and his wife, Elizabeth had received this land as legatees of Sampson Bracewell deceased. So....what do you think ? Theresa From ???@??? Sun Mar 23 14:51:50 1997 Received: from Sprite.viptx.net (root@Sprite.viptx.net [208.193.14.4]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA03028 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:01:42 -0600 Received: from joyz.BWEB.NET (b1-13.bweb.net [208.193.15.33]) by Sprite.viptx.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA30302 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:01:38 -0600 Message-ID: <3334EEBE.37A9@bweb.net> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 08:50:06 +0000 From: Joy Zowie X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Keith Braswell Subject: Re: Braswell References: <3.0.1.32.19970322222606.007a22e0@pbmo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keith Braswell wrote: > > Joy, > Thanks for sending a note to let me know that you came onto my page. I do > not know Sylvia and would love to get in contact with her about the family > tree. Please send me what info that I would need to get in contact with her. > > Thanks again! > > Keith > > At 10:29 PM 3/21/97 +0000, you wrote: > >Keith, > > I just came upon your page. Just wondered if you know a Sylvia > >Rose BUTCHER BRASWELL? She has done extensive research on ALL of her > >surnames. At this time she doesn't have an e-mail address, but I could > >send you her snail address. I remember her saying that her husband's > >BRASWELL'S were from Arkansas. So maybe you could help each other. > >Sylvia is my first cousin once removed. (I beleive) Her Dad & my > >Grandmother were siblings. > >Joy Goade Zowie > >joyz@bweb.net > > > > > > David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 > 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ > Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net Sylvia Rose BUTCHER BRASWELL 10904 Ada Ave Stockton, Ca. 95205 (209)467-4487 From ???@??? Sun Mar 23 14:51:51 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA12023 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 10:31:29 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 23 Mar 1997 09:31:18 -0700 Resent-Date: 23 Mar 1997 09:31:18 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sun, 23 Mar 97 16:30:43 UT From: "MORGAN HETRICK" Message-Id: To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: RE: RICHARD BRACEWELL & CHARITY SCARBOROUGH Resent-Message-ID: <"uoBBd1.0.ag5.LhLDp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/466 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Hi, would Theresa M. Reynolds please e mail me at Morgan_Hawk@msn.com re our LAurens Co. Bracewells. Thanks Joyce Hetrick ---------- From: Theresa M. Reynolds Sent: Sunday, March 02, 1997 3:05 AM To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: Re: RICHARD BRACEWELL & CHARITY SCARBOROUGH MORGAN HETRICK wrote: > > My ancestor is RICHARD BRACEWELL, born probably before 1774, married Charity > Scarborough and their son, JAMES born 5 June 1794 at Allen's Fort,Warren > County, GA was my ancestor. I do not know the names of any other children of > RICHARD and Charity. > JAMES was in Morgan Co., GA by 1820 when he married Elizabeth Butler, and he > died 12 Dec 1875 in Gwinnett Co. Ga. > The children of JAMES & ELIZABETH WERE: > WILLIAM BUTLER BRACEWELL b. 1822 Lawrenceville, Gwinnett Co GA (married > Martha Martin, dtr of Absolom) [My ancestors] > James R. Bracewell, Julia, Richard W. (b 1831) Sarah Amanda, Frances E., > Nancy Jane, Samuel T. Henry H., Lucinda Caroline and Epsey (Essie?) (female), > and Caroline. > I have recently discovered your site and am thrilled that there are others > out there tracing the same line(s). > I am an experienced genealogist (been at it over 30 years) I don't accept > anyone else's research without checking it out--no offense, just that I have > made enough mistakes of my own without adding someone elses' to mine. Group > research is the best I think, because a group is critical of the research not > the researcher. Helps us find our errors and gives us new insight into a > problem. Great way to do things and I will be glad to share references with > any and all. > I was intrigued when I was reading the guest book and came across the > reference to another Bracewell/Scarborough marriage and wondered if possibly > that my Richard had a brother that married a sister or cousin of my Charity? > You all have a wonderful group, I have been reading your "mail" on the > archive and you all sound like great and nice people. > Tell you a little about myself. I am Joyce Hetrick, husband is Morgan > (that's his email I use) and he (semi-retired engineer/test pilot) and me, > still working Registered Nurse Practitioner (cuts into my research time!) live > out in the boonies of Arkansas (snail mail: 288 Heifer Creek Rd. Springfield, > AR 72157 phone 501-354-5025). We raise a few Scots Highland cattle and I do as > much genealogy as you can do when you work 24/7 at one "job" or another! > Spend all my "disposable" income on sending off to archives for copies of > various records. My best friend is a professional genealogist named Desmond > Walls Allen. SHE writes/compiles index books and publishes them, lectures and > writes a newspaper article weekly for our statewide newspaper on genealogy and > keeps me in ideas when I am "up the family tree and can't get down." See her > web page at Arkansas Research. > Keep up the good work and hope I can be of assistance to the group and vice > versa! E U later! Joyce HetrickHello Joyce, Your Richard is probably the brother of my Sampson Bracewell of Laurens County Georgia who married Elizabeth Scarborough, daughter of William Scarborough. I based this on the will of William who names Sampson as an heir. And on land records that give Sampson's wife name as Elizabeth. According to fellow Bracewell researchers, Ray Tarpley and Ron Bracewell, Richard and Charity Scarborough Bracewell had 4 children: James who married Elizabeth Butler, Richard who married first Lucinda Spears and second Ms. Allen, Wiley who married Aggie Doorman, and William who married Elizabeth Stephens. Richard had a second wife, Winnifred Carlisle, and they had 2 sons: Kindred and Allen. My Sampson married Elizabeth Scarborough and they had 5 children: Mary who married Jethro Judson Weaver, Elizabeth who married Reason Spell, William Sampson who married Ridley Hilliard, Eliza who married David McDaniel, and Seabron Asbury who married Roxann A. Wolfe ( my 3 great grandparents ). It is believed, because of age differences in the census, that Sampson married a second time and had several more children. Ray and Ron give Sampson Bracewell and Miss Moore of North Carolina as the parents of my Sampson and your Richard Bracewell. Looking forward to shareing ideas with you, Theresa From ???@??? Sun Mar 23 14:52:01 1997 Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.13]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA18556 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 11:29:13 -0600 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA16903 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 11:28:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from sil-wa2-08.ix.netcom.com(206.214.137.40) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma016892; Sun Mar 23 11:28:30 1997 Message-ID: <3335682C.456C@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:28:12 -0800 From: Randy Bracewell Reply-To: wbracewe@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Braswell list subscriber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Keith, I am a subscriber to your list and you don't list my name and city. I am wbracewe@ix.netcom.com and my human name is Randy Bracewell (actually William R. Bracewell), and I live in Bremerton, Washington. Have a good day!! Randy -- "Sometimes when I consider what tremendous consequences come from little things..... I am tempted to think.... There are no little things." - Bruce Barton Randy Bracewell Bremerton, Washington wbracewe@ix.netcom.com From ???@??? Sun Mar 23 22:28:22 1997 Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.97]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA22216 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:02:08 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA27010; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:01:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:01:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970323180101_1318755066@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@emcee.com, MORGAN_HAWK@msn.com cc: braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com Subject: Re: RICHARD BRACEWELL & CHARITY SCARBOROUGH Dear Cousin Joyce, I see "The Force" is still with you in genealogy, especially Bracewell genealogy! What a find you have in Theresa! Would you ask your genealogist friend, Desmond Allen, if he is of any relation to SQUIRE, or "ESQUIRE" ALLEN , b.c.1765 in Kentucky, pioneered Johnson Co., Illinois and several in Missouri & Arkansas before settling down in Saline County where he died 11-25-1842, followed by his wife, MARTHA T. on 10-9-1843. Again, congratulations on the "lucky" sleuthing! CAREY From ???@??? Sun Mar 23 22:28:24 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA16527 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:45:33 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 23 Mar 1997 17:45:24 -0700 Resent-Date: 23 Mar 1997 17:45:23 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-ID: <3338A9AB.22BA@concentric.net> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:44:27 -0800 From: "Theresa M. Reynolds" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Braswell List Subject: Laurens Co. Georgia connections Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ki8ww3.0.Il7.YwSDp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/468 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Joyce, I would be delighted to verify or disprove my existing lines. I am like you, the most important thing is to gather the facts and reach the correct conclusion. Open discussions is one of the best ways to find holes in my logic. I am in the process of building a new home, sign the papers this week. The next 3 - 6 months are going to be hectic with building, packing, moving, unpacking, etc. Please be patient and bear with me !!! Theresa in Lakeland, FL From ???@??? Sun Mar 23 23:26:28 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA12877 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:23:03 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 23 Mar 1997 22:20:57 -0700 Resent-Date: 23 Mar 1997 22:20:57 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970323232159.007b04a0@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:21:59 -0600 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: Braswell Guestbook - 03/11/97 - 03/23/97 Cc: thb64726@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu, davidbraswell@mindspring.com, lilo@centuryinter.net, drlbp@linknet.net, mikebrazel@aol.com, jhb@gate.net, ccbiggs@sat.net, bras@actlink.com, GFULG@aol.com, EthlSAdams@aol.com, reefrap@erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"0uElU3.0.n-1.uyWDp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/469 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Dear Members of the Braswell EMailing List and to those who have Recently signed the Guestbook, Below are the The Braswell Family Guestbook Entries from 03/11/97 - 03/23/97! A special thank you to those who took the time to sign! For those of you signed the guestbook recently who may not know what the Braswell List is you may get more information by checking out the following page on the world wide web. http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/blist.html You ask, What is the Braswell-List? It's basically a way to send a message to over 70 people who are interested in the Braswell Surname at the same time by sending a message to a single email address... All the people subscribed to "the List" all receive any message sent to the address: Braswell-L@Genealogy.Org. Yours for Genealogy, Keith Braswell Guestbook entries are as follows: 03/23/97 Thomas Heath Braswell mailto:thb64726@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu Orlando, Fl I was just curious about other Braswells. The only other Braswells that I have heard of, other than my family, have been Afro American. I am 21 yrs old and I believe most of my family came from Georgia. There is also a relation with the Hawthornes. They had something to do with blazing the Hawthorne trail somewhere in Georgia. 03/22/97 Walter Carl Braswell mailto:davidbraswell@mindspring.com Alpharetta, Ga. 30201 03/22/97 David Andrew Braswell mailto:davidbraswell@mindspring.com Canton, Ga. 30115 Father: Walter Carl Braswell, born Oct. 13, 1937 Haralson Co.,Ga. Grandfather: James Doyal Braswell, born July 7, 1901 Polk or Paulding Co., Ga. Greatgrandfather: Jake V. Braswell, born in Polk or Paulding Co., Ga. I would like information about greatgrandfather and before. 03/21/97 Bill Moffeit mailto:lilo@centuryinter.net San Marcos, Texas 78666 My grandmother on my mothers side was Minnie N. Braswell Smith, she married James C. Smith on March 6, 1904. They raised six children Parker, Carl, Boon Mildred, Nell and Oneta. Minnie Braswell Smith was the dauther of Jasper Meltos Braswell and Nancy Arneta Smith Braswell They came from Alabama or Georgia to southwest Oklahoma sometime around 1880, 1890 timeframe. They were farmers around the Vinson area. All were laid to rest at Cave Creak Cemetary south of Vinson, Oklahoma. At this time, this is about all I know about the Braswells branch. Happy hunting and farewell 03/20/97 Renee' Bruce Fanguy mailto:drlbp@linknet.net Ruston, LA 71270 I have some very dear friends and their last name is Braswell. I ended up here because I was trying to see if I could locate an e-mail address for them. Thank you for letting me visit. Renee' B. Fanguy 03/20/97 Michael David Brazel mailto:mikebrazel@aol.com Carmel, NY 10512 Great Job. I am starting a genealogy list of the Brazel name. 03/20/97 Jo Beardsley mailto:jhb@gate.net Clewiston,Florida 33440 William Carver son of Ann Carver & Richard Braswell. Va>NC>Ga>Fl 03/20/97 Charles C. Biggs mailto:ccbiggs@sat.net Ardmore, OK 73401 Researching Biggs family from North Carolina. John Biggs and William Biggs are early names. 03/19/97 Donia King mailto:Honey4K Tampa, Florida 33619 I a descendant from Anne Braswell who married Matthew Strickland. I just started doing this line as of 3-17-97. Any infomation that anyone can help me with, would be appreciated. 03/16/97 Ronald Owen Braswell mailto:bras@actlink.com Springboro, Ohio 45066 Part time resident of Colorado President of Automotive Computer Technology, Englewood, Colorado (Denver area). Colorado residence address is: 6853 South Ivy Way 7-208 Englewood, Co. 80112 Born: Columbus, Ga. 3/29/49. Married to Ann Michele Braswell (formally Troup) of Dayton, Ohio on 2/12/83 (2nd marrage) Two Children: (Daughter) Melissa Lynn Becker,born 8/7/71 and married to David Becker of Miamisburg, Oh. They have one son, Alex Owen Becker born 10/5/95. Melissa is a registered nurse and studying for Masters degree in the field. (Son) Ronald Bryan Braswell ("Bryan"), born 6/30/75. Left handed pitcher, drafted #4, out of University of Toledo in 1996 by Houston Astros. Three stepchildren: Carrie Ann Newport (formally DeVer), married to Dave Newport of Kettering, Ohio Matthew Dennis DeVer (Junior, University of Toledo) Jack Michael DeVer (Freshman, Ohio University) all of Ohio. 03/16/97 Gannier Lee Fulghum mailto:GFULG@AOL.COM Harrisburg, OR. 97446 My Mothers' maidens name was BRACEWELL. She was born and raised in Georgia around Dublin. Any other Bracewells give me a call at GFULG@AOL.COM. Thank you very much. 03/15/97 Ethel S. Adams mailto:EthlSAdams@aol.com Louisville, KY 40220 I was advised to look up the BOYD home page since I am trying to find information regarding CHRISTINA BOYD who married LINDSEY COLEMAN. Can anyone help? 03/15/97 Sandra Tamm mailto:reefrap@erols.com Lorton, VA 22079 Searching for information on Jesse Braswell (1764-1827)of Brunswick County, VA. Jesse was the son of Jacob Braswell and Viola Vick. 03/11/97 Roy Wardem mailto:RoyW7846 Fayetteville NC 28305 Keith...just though I'd drop by to check out our web site. You've done a great job with it. David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Mon Mar 24 10:14:36 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA16580 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:06:12 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 24 Mar 1997 09:05:52 -0700 Resent-Date: 24 Mar 1997 09:05:52 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Mon, 24 Mar 97 04:08:11 UT From: "James Bracewell" Message-Id: To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: Bracewell reunion Resent-Message-ID: <"kISM92.0.jV6.VPgDp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/470 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Does anyone know of the date and location of a Bracewell reunion near Dublin, GA? Jim Bracewell, Winter Park, FL From ???@??? Mon Mar 24 10:23:57 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA17949 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:21:28 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 24 Mar 1997 09:21:07 -0700 Resent-Date: 24 Mar 1997 09:21:07 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970324102218.007a1e40@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:22:18 -0600 To: "James Bracewell" , braswell-l@genealogy.org From: Keith Braswell Subject: Re: Bracewell reunion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"EYmbN3.0.tq6.pdgDp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/471 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Jim, If you find out please let me know and I will post it on the Braswell Family Reunion's web site... Keith At 04:08 AM 3/24/97 UT, James Bracewell wrote: >Does anyone know of the date and location of a Bracewell reunion near Dublin, >GA? > >Jim Bracewell, Winter Park, FL > > > David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Mon Mar 24 19:32:55 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA01110 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:28:54 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 24 Mar 1997 17:28:44 -0700 Resent-Date: 24 Mar 1997 17:28:43 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-ID: <33371C13.550D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:28:03 -0800 From: Randy Bracewell Reply-To: wbracewe@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Bracewell , braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: Re: Bracewell reunion References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"P3iDi3.0.ET.xmnDp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/472 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com James Bracewell wrote: > > Does anyone know of the date and location of a Bracewell reunion near Dublin, > GA? > > Jim Bracewell, Winter Park, FL Hello Jim, My father will be there, and he told me it is going to be on April 6th, the first Sunday in April. I really wish I could make it, but he said he'd collect information for me. If you would like more information, his name is Bill Bracewell and you can e-mail him at mailto:gladys@voyageronline.net His wife's name is Gladys, and I'm sure he has all the specific details. I hope you have fun!! Randy -- "Sometimes when I consider what tremendous consequences come from little things..... I am tempted to think.... There are no little things." - Bruce Barton Randy Bracewell Bremerton, Washington wbracewe@ix.netcom.com From ???@??? Tue Mar 25 20:52:01 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA20387 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:49:48 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 25 Mar 1997 19:49:32 -0700 Resent-Date: 25 Mar 1997 19:49:31 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970325205058.007ad970@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:50:58 -0600 To: Braswell-L@Genealogy.Org From: Keith Braswell Subject: Braswell-L, Thanks! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"zB4Sb.0.4i6.xw8Ep"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/473 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Thanks to all of you for the many recent contributions to the Braswell List. It has been very enjoyable to read the latest information that has come through. A special thanks to Carey Bracewell and his informative contributions. Thanks also to Foy for his Braswell Rascal's and work on the US GenWeb project! Also, a Special Thanks to James Green for starting this discussion group many moons ago! Each subscribers posts are appreciated and enjoyed! Keep them coming! Keith Braswell David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Wed Mar 26 07:43:52 1997 Received: from mail.techline.com (root@mail.techline.com [205.134.192.9]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA27951 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 01:00:35 -0600 Received: from x.techline.com (ip42.techline.com [205.134.197.45]) by mail.techline.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA31725 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 23:01:02 -0800 Message-Id: <199703260701.XAA31725@mail.techline.com> From: "Cal York" To: Subject: Jacob Burton Braswell? Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:59:04 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a Jacob Burton Braswell in my pedigree chart who married Martha Herndon. Martha Herndon was born September 20, 1842 in Winston, Alabama and died March 12, 1934 in St. Louis, Missouri. Martha was the daughter of Joel Herndon and Sarah Denning. This Herndon line settled in Texas County, Missouri area. Does any of this ring any bells with you. I am from Springfield, Mo originally. Live in Washington state now. Cal York From ???@??? Wed Mar 26 13:29:31 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA29129 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:57:50 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 26 Mar 1997 09:57:07 -0700 Resent-Date: 26 Mar 1997 09:57:06 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:30:14 -0500 Message-Id: <33953C80.1299@mailgw.sanders.lockheed.com> From: CHOWARD@mailgw.sanders.lockheed.com Subject: Dempsey Braswell To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"U2-jl.0.8U4.XLLEp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/475 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com I was wondering if you had gotten my message about a lady trying to find out about Dempsey Braswell. She's not online but was using a public library computer, and she had seen my name on the Nansemond, VA query re Braswells. I'd like to help her, but I really don't have any information on him. Any help from any of you would be much appreciated. Thanks Sue Howard (e-mail: choward@mailgw.sanders.com) From ???@??? Wed Mar 26 13:29:34 1997 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com (emout04.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.95]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA00696 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:10:34 -0600 From: Lin4art@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA26151 for braswell@pbmo.net; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:10:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:10:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970326120959_1916597474@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Braswell family Guestbook Hello, I atempted to sign your guest book and it would not load and send. So here is the info. Please put it in the guest book for me. Thanks. Linda Clarine Boyd,Brown 3295 S. Viginia st. apt.#251 Reno,Nevada 89502 E-mail= Lin4art@aol.com I am looking for my ancestors. I am the grandaughter of Rachell Emaline Braswell and Roy Clifford Betterton. My parents were William Boyd and Lillian Lucile Betterton. They all lived in Arkansas and Oregon. All are deceased. Rachell was born on April 12,1898, Married on Nov. 4,1916 to Roy Betterton in Van Buren Arkansas. Hope this gets to you. From ???@??? Wed Mar 26 13:29:35 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA02107 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:25:23 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 26 Mar 1997 10:24:39 -0700 Resent-Date: 26 Mar 1997 10:24:39 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <199703261724.JAA27895@ico.com> From: "Nona Williams" To: "Braswell Mailing List" , Subject: Re: Our William Braswells Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:23:36 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"iMFeP1.0.ch5.MlLEp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/476 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Tim, Thanks for contacting me about these Braswells we have in common. Unfortunately, I've been swamped and haven't been able to write even a brief reply. I'm excited about working with you to sort our families out. I descend from William and Martha's daughter, Lucreasy Braswell who married William Williams. They had two children who also married Braswells and the entire extended family moved to middle Tennessee in about 1803. Samuel Williams, son of Lucreasy & William married Sarah Braswell, the daughter of Samuel Braswell and Sarah (Hunt?). (Samuel was the son of William Braswell and Margaret) who were also the parents of the William who married Martha. Is this tangled enough for you? It is for me. My double Braswell line means double the trouble for me? :-) It appears that I might have Hunt ancestry too. We think that the wife of Samuel was the daughter of Jesse Hunt and Sarah Long, but we can't prove it yet. Do you have information on your Hunt ancestors? They probably link with my supposed line. -Nona ---------- > From: timww@ktc.com > To: rof@backporch.com > Subject: Our William Braswells > Date: Wednesday, March 19, 1997 3:18 PM > > Hi Nona, > > The current subject of William Braswell on the Braswell list made me go back and > reread previous letters I had saved on the subject and I discovered we shared the > same line. I am a descendant of the William Braswells and their wives listed > below. William III had a daughter named Judah who married William Hunt. They > had at least one son, my ancestor, Alexander Hunt who married "the widow > Thomas." I have William III's children as Robin, Demsey, Judah, Lucrecy, Priscilla, > Rhoda and Mourning. I was wondering which of his children you were descended > from and if you were aware of any theories concerning the surnames of these > Williams' wives. I'm aware that there's some thought Mary may have been a > Wilson, but from recent letters on the list it sounds like this could be due to > confusion concerning another later William and Mary Braswell. I'm glad to see > someone else with the same William dilemma on the list and would have written > sooner if I had been paying attention. Looking forward to hearing from you. > > Thanks, Tim > > > >There were entirely too many men named William Braswell. I descend from: > >William Braswell III who married Martha > >William Braswell II who married Margaret > >William Braswell I who married Mary > > > >It's difficult to sort them out. -Nona > > From ???@??? Wed Mar 26 16:14:00 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA05213 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:43:57 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 26 Mar 1997 14:42:10 -0700 Resent-Date: 26 Mar 1997 14:42:10 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:41:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970326164328.32dfa524@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: lbarron@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Cal York" From: Lucy Barron Subject: Re: William Braswell - 1680-1720 VA,NC Cc: braswell-l@genealogy.org Resent-Message-ID: <"dz_vm2.0.oH7.nWPEp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/477 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Well, I'm not sure. Here's what I know on Jacobs in Alabama. According to the Arkansas 1911 Census of Confederate Veterans, v. 1 (1977), p. 58 a Jacob BRASWELL appeared. He states the following: He was born 10 Apr 1841 in Manning Co., AL. In Warren, AR he married 24 Apr 1873 to Rebecca ST. JOHN, dau. of James Monroe and Elizabeth [?] ST. JOHN. Rebecca was Jacob's 2nd wife and he doesn't name first one. His children were: Delia Celester (m. __ HUTCHISON), Bennie Carr, Parvin (m. Hattie ___), Irene (m. Louis STOVER), Carson, and Owens. Jacob was the son of Jacob BRASWELL, who was born in Smith Co., TN, and the grandson of Robin BRASWELL. This is all I have on a Jacob. However, there were many BRASWELL families in Alabama, many of whom came from North Carolina via middle Tennessee. Robin of course is the son of William and Martha BRASWELL of Nash Co., NC. Hope this helps and happy hunting, Lucy Barron Lexington, MA At 06:47 AM 3/22/97 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Lucy; > I have a Jacob Burton BRASWELL, who married Martha HERNDON, b September >20, 1842 in Winston, Alabama, d March 12, 1934 in St. Louis, Missouri. >Does this work in with yours? >Cal > >---------- >> From: Lucy Barron >> To: braswell-l@genealogy.org >> Subject: Re: William Braswell - 1680-1720 VA,NC >> Date: Friday, March 21, 1997 2:20 PM >> >> >Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:43:14 >> >To: jameswgreen@juno.com (James W. Green III) >> >From: Lucy Barron >> >Subject: Re: William Braswell - 1680-1720 VA,NC >> > >> >I also have heard repeatedly the claim that Richard also had a son named >> William. Since records definitely seem to support the more than one >William >> claim, it would make sense that Richard also had a son so named. Plus >the >> Bertie Co., NC records definitely state the Mary GUINN was previously the >> wife of William and had a son named William. >> > >> >As for the charts in Dr. Braswell's book --While his book is certainly a >> contribution to BRASWELL genealogy, this is the same book that omits >sources >> and blithely states it doesn't really matter whether William was the son >of >> Richard or Robert since they were both descended from the immigrant. >> NOTHING should be taken from his book without further research. >> > >> >As for a child's omission from the will-- 1) William BRASWELL m. Mary >> (WILSON???) predeceased him. 2) If he had already received his >inheritance >> from the father, there would have been no need. 3) Also the British laws >of >> primogeniture (sp?) make it unnecessary for a man to name the first born >son >> in a will. The will (at that time at least) is only for if you want >other >> children to get something. As one moves further away from the British >> immigrant (and especially Virginia), one doesn't have to worry so much >about >> whether the 1st born was named or not in the will (as usually they all >> were); and primogeniture fell out of favor here. Indeed widows who left >> wills more often than not only name a few of the children whom they wish >to >> get a little something extra. A will is not nearly as good a document as >an >> Administration of the Estate record where all the heirs (deceased or >> otherwise) must be named (although I'm not quite sure how these worked in >> early Virginia while primogeniture was still prevalent). >> > >> >Lucy Barron >> >Lexington, MA >> > >> >At 01:17 AM 3/20/97 EST, you wrote: >> >>On Tue, 18 Mar 97 12:53:15 PST timww@ktc.com writes: >> >>> >> >>>Some time ago I posted a question concerning the father of William >> >>>Braswell (son of either Richard or Robert and a grandson of Rev. >> >>Robert.) >> >>>The problem has been that both Richard and Robert had sons named >William >> >> >> >>>and it has been difficult to separate them. >> >> >> >>Looking at the chart in the front of Dr. R.B. Braswell's book >> >> _Robert BRASWELL Jr. >> >>Rev. Robert___| 1650-1702____________William BRASWELL I >> >>Braswell | m. Susannah BURGESS Chowan County >> >> | 1680-1720 >> >> | m.Mary >> >> |_Richard BRASWELL >> >> m.Sarah >> >> >> >>Now adding from chart in front of WW Braswell's book which comes >> >>down on Richard son of the Reverend. >> >> >> >> _Robert BRASWELL Jr. >> >>Rev. Robert___| 1650-1702____________William BRASWELL I >> >>Braswell | m. Susannah BURGESS Chowan County >> >> | 1680-1720 >> >> | m.Mary >> >> | >> >> |_Richard BRASWELL __Richard BRASWELL Jr. >> >> 1651-1735____________| m.Sarah CROCKER >> >> m.Sarah Sampson |_Valentine BRASWELL >> >> Isle of Wight Co. VA | >> >> |_Jacob BRASWELL >> >> | >> >> |_Robert BRASWELL >> >> | >> >> |_John BRASWELL >> >> | >> >> |_& 3 daughters >> >> >> >>So, if W.W.Braswell's chart is complete, then where is the son >> >>of Richard b.1651 that is named William? >> >> >> >>>I am looking for father of the William who married Mary (Wilson??) >> >>>and moved to NC. >> >> >> >>I hear from previous discussions on this list that there is more >> >>than one "Mary (WILSON?)". W.C. Fields of Fayetteville NC told >> >>me that there was evidence that Mary wife of my William CARVER >> >>(alias BRASWELL) might be a Wilson. I have William's 1767 Cumberland >> >>Co NC will on the web at my url in the signature lines below. >> >>Click on "Braswell Pages". It shows his wife is a Mary & that >> >>he made her & Joseph Dunn and Silvenus Wilson his executors. >> >>If that is the basis, then she could as easily be a Dunn. >> >> >> >>>Mary had later remarried Moses Guinn at least by 1726. >> >> >> >>That means your Mary is older than my Mary, I will drop the >> >>Wilson subject & repeat where is William the son of Richard b.1651. >> >>Looks like we need more wills on the web. >> >> >> >>>I have since come across some very thorough research done by a >> >>>relative of my grandmother which suggests that this William's >> >>>father must have been Richard. I'm posting the reasoning for >> >>>this below. It sounds pretty logical to me. >> >>> >> >>>Robert Braswell's widow (Susannah Burgess(?) Braswell Towle) gave >> >>>land to her sons Richard and William in her will. This will was >> >>>recorded in Isle of Wight Co. on 6/26/1732. The will was presented >> >>>by her son William Braswell, executor named therein. Therefore, >> >>>Robert and Susannah's son William was in Isle of Wight in 1732 and >> >>>could not have been the William Braswell who moved to Chowan-Bertie >> >>>Co, NC and died in the 1720s. >> >> >> >>Good point. Dead men don't bring in their mom's will. But can >> >>we trust that Susannah Burgess' son died in 1720 like the chart >> >>says? Perhaps some of you have photocopies of the will of William >> >>who d.1720. >> >> >> >>>A copy of the will and the dates involved is included in the research. > >> >>> This is new to me, but I realize it may already discussed on the >list. >> >> >> >>>If anyone has any ideas as to why this might not be reliable, please >> >>>let me know. >> >>> >> >>>Thanks, Tim Wilson >> >>>timww@ktc.com >> >>>Kerrville, Texas >> >> >> >>I too await postings of the other experts. >> >>-- >> >>James W. Green III / Rt.5, Box 720 / Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA >> >>home:803-635-9236 http://emcee.com/~green >> >>http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/9389 >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Lucy Barron >> Senior Serial Cataloger >> Widener Library, Rm. 87 >> Harvard University >> Cambridge, MA 02138 > > Lucy Barron Senior Serial Cataloger Widener Library, Rm. 87 Harvard University Cambridge, MA 02138 From ???@??? Wed Mar 26 22:37:43 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA15232 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:25:20 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 26 Mar 1997 20:20:07 -0700 Resent-Date: 26 Mar 1997 20:20:07 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 25 Mar 97 22:25:12 PST From: timww@ktc.com Subject: Braswell-Hunt To: Nona Williams , braswell-l@genealogy.org X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <"Vli1z2.0.H26.bTUEp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/478 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Nona, I've been looking for the book "Hunt Family Records" by Ida Brooks Kellam (with no luck so far.) Apparently she discusses the Braswell-Hunt connection in detail (at least Judah Braswell and William Hunt.) I don't have anything on a Sarah Hunt (Samuel Braswell's wife?), but I suspect Jesse Hunt may be a cousin (or otherwise related?) to William Hunt. I've found a few records linking all three William Hunt, Jesse Hunt and Samuel Braswell in transactions. William's father, Henry Hunt, came to NC from VA and purchased land with Thomas Hunt (his brother?) I have more on this Henry Hunt's family. If your interested, let me know. Thanks, Tim Wilson timww@ktc.com Kerrville, Texas From ???@??? Wed Mar 26 22:37:44 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA24220 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:12:28 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 26 Mar 1997 21:11:59 -0700 Resent-Date: 26 Mar 1997 21:11:59 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; From: "Kim Tribble" To: "Braswell List" Subject: Samuel BRASWELL Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:05:15 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BC3A31.C8944520" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <04145696501905@hot1.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"3LJOS.0.vh.EEVEp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/479 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com

I've been ready all the mail about the Braswells and am wondering if anyone has information on a Samuel BRASWELL, b. Oct. 1853 in Tennesse?  He was married to S.E. (1880 Census, Red River Co., Texas).  S.E. was born in 1851 in Kentucky.  In 1885 Samuel married Angelina, b. 1862 in Illinois (1900 Census, Lamar Co., Texas).  Angie died in 1925.  I do not have any other info on Samuel.  

Samuel and Angie were my great-grandparents.  Any info will be GREATLY appreciated.

Kim  A. Tribble
Waco, Texas
E-mail:  ktrib@hot1.net
Fax:  817-412-1416
http://www.hot1.net/ktrib

From ???@??? Wed Mar 26 23:26:50 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA06122 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:21:20 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 26 Mar 1997 22:21:09 -0700 Resent-Date: 26 Mar 1997 22:21:09 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970326232234.007afe80@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:22:34 -0600 To: braswell@genealogy.org From: Keith Braswell Subject: Removed from Braswell List Cc: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"IZwJN1.0.y54.4FWEp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/480 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com 73503.2577@compuserve.com bounced 6 times and still bouncing. I removed them from the list tonight... Please let me know if this is anyone you know. Once the problem is fixed we can add them back. Is compuserve still an active provider?? Keith David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Thu Mar 27 08:11:30 1997 Received: from 207.12.197.32 (www.lodinet.com [207.12.197.32]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id FAA17391 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 05:38:47 -0600 Received: from PC_mjhughes.lodinet.com (207.12.197.120) by 207.12.197.32 (Rockliffe SMTPRA 1.2.2) with SMTP id ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:27:16 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970325205058.007ad970@pbmo.net> References: Conversation <3.0.1.32.19970325205058.007ad970@pbmo.net> with last message <3.0.1.32.19970325205058.007ad970@pbmo.net> Priority: Normal To: Keith Braswell MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Marilyn "J." Hughes Subject: Re: Braswell-L, Thanks! Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 23:10:09 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keith: Just a note of appreciation for the work you have done for all our kin. I do read most of the stuff that I find in my mail box and find it very interesting. I'm just not in a spot right now where I can spend the time accumulating and composing. But I do appreciate having the information accessable and the fun time most are having and sharing in their postings keep me in touch.... and envious. Maybe soon.... Again, many thanks for your fine work. Marilyn From ???@??? Sun Mar 30 00:13:18 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA20411 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 11:37:38 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 28 Mar 1997 10:37:23 -0700 Resent-Date: 28 Mar 1997 10:37:23 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <199703281734.MAA12426@aus-b.mp.campus.mci.net> X-UIDL: 859608472.007 From: "Robert L. Wall" To: "Post Braswell" Subject: Robert Braswell [1612-1688] Wife Rebecca or Robert Braswell [1610-1667[Wife Susannah Towles Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 11:32:01 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"CtEi31.0.cA6.I70Fp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/482 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Status: RO I have a friend that descends from Anne, daughter of Richard [1650-1724], that has Robert [1612-1668] married to Susannah Towle, daughter of Richard Towle. We need this settled so we can go on with our lives without coming to blows . I don't have any doubt that one you will come to our rescue. Thank you so much for your help. Bob Wall rwall@wku.campus.mci.net From ???@??? Sun Mar 30 00:13:20 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA28713 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:23:54 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 28 Mar 1997 14:23:36 -0700 Resent-Date: 28 Mar 1997 14:23:36 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 16:22:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970328162423.37370dd0@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: lbarron@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Robert L. Wall" X-UIDL: 859608472.009 From: Lucy Barron Subject: Re: Robert Braswell [1612-1688] Wife Rebecca or Robert Braswell [1610-1667[Wife Susannah Towles Cc: braswell-l@genealogy.org Resent-Message-ID: <"ZWXQd1.0.l27.NR3Fp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/483 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Status: RO Weren't the Towle children the illegitimate offspring of Susannah [BURGESS] BRACEWELL, wife of Robert [Jr.], and commoner Richard TOWLE? She was dau. of John BURGESS. Robert BRACEWELL, b.c.1650, was son of the Immigrant, Rev. Robert BRACEWELL, c1612-c1668, and wife Rebecca [ ?? ]. Robert & Rebecca also had Ann, b.c. 1648, m. BAGNALL. At 11:32 AM 3/28/97 -0600, you wrote: >I have a friend that descends from Anne, daughter of Richard >[1650-1724], that has Robert [1612-1668] married to Susannah >Towle, daughter of Richard Towle. We need this settled so >we can go on with our lives without coming to blows . I >don't have any doubt that one you will come to our rescue. >Thank you so much for your help. > >Bob Wall >rwall@wku.campus.mci.net > > Lucy Barron Senior Serial Cataloger Widener Library, Rm. 87 Harvard University Cambridge, MA 02138 From ???@??? Sun Mar 30 00:13:39 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA08395 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 06:35:12 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 29 Mar 1997 05:35:23 -0700 Resent-Date: 29 Mar 1997 05:35:23 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 07:33:41 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970329073341_1319370329@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org cc: PATTIBILL@aol.com, linda@iggy.salsa.net Subject: WILLIAM BRASWELL's 1720 assault trial Resent-Message-ID: <"zOeFa.0.bE.AoGFp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/484 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Dear Cousins, In 1720 WILLIAM BRASWELL (c.1676-c.1721) was tried for assaulting RICHARD WASHINGTON, Constable, in Chowan Precinct, North Carolina. The following entries may be found in William L. Saunders, ed., "The Colonial Records of North Carolina", Raleigh: 1886. (Volume 2, p. 358) July 28, 1719 Att a General Court held for the sd Province at the Court House at Queen Anne's Creek in Chowan Precinct July 30, 1719 WILLIAM BRASWELL being bound by recognizance to appear at this Court made his appearance and nothing appearing agt him Ordered that he be dismist JOSEPH DARDEN being bound by recognizance to appear at this Court appeared & the sd DARDEN not being fully satisfied the Court by the deposition he produced Ordered that he be continued by the Recognizance to appear at the next Court & c JOSEPH DARDEN and WILLIAM BRASWELL acknowledge themselves to be Indebted to our Sovereign Lord the King in the sum of two hundred pounds current money of Great Britain to be leveyed on their lands and tenemts goods & chattells with condition That the said JOSEPH DARDEN shall personally appear before the Chief Justice and the Justices for holding the the Generall Court of this Province the last Tuesday in October next then and there to answer and give Evidence to such causes matters and things as shall be allegged against and required of him {DARDEN was found innocent of the charge of forging bills. CB} (Ibid., pp.407-408) Att a Genll Court of Oyer & Terminer continued and held for the sd Province at the Genll Court House in Chowan Precinct 28 July 1720. . . . WM BRASWELL being bound by Recognizance to appear at the Court to answer his abuse to a constable in the execution of his office Appeared. Upon motion of the Attorney Genll Ordered that he be in Custody of the Marshall till he enter into Recognizance to appear & answer at the next Court the sd Complaint and that he be of his good behavior in the mean time. . . . Thursday Novr 3d. The Jurors for our Sovereign Lord the King on their oaths do Present That WM BRASWELL of the Precinct of Chowan in the Province afsd Planter did on or about the 1st day of April 1720 at Chowan afsd by force & armes kick and otherwise abuse one RICHARD WASHINGTON yn & there a Constable in the Execution of his office & other Inormitys to him the sd RICHARD WASHINGTON did then and there do with like force and Armes agst the Peace of our Sovereign Lord the King his Crown Dignity &c Billa Vera NICs CRISP, foreman (Ibid., p. 414) April 14, 1720 WM BRASWELL being called to answer an Indictmt found agst him by the Grand Jury for abusing Rd WASHINGTON a Constable in the Execution of his office Appeard & acknowledged himself to be indebted to our Sovereign Lord the King in the sum of twenty Pounds and JNo BIRKETT in the like sum of twenty pounds to be Levyed upon their Lands & Tenemts Goods & Chattells wth condition, That the sd Wm BRASWELL do personally appear here the 3rd day of the next Genll Court & not depart the Court untill discharged therefrom And that in the mean time he be of his good behavior. {THOMAS STONEHAM was also indicted for abusing Constable WASHINGTON. CB} (Ibid., p. 439) Att a Council held at the House of Wm BADHAM, March the 30th 1721 Present the Honble Charles Eden, Esqr Governr. . . . DANll RICHARDSON Esqr Attorney Genll came to Prosecute an Indictment by the Grand Jury last Court agst WM BRASWELL for abusing a Constable in the Execution of his Office. To which he Pleaded Guilty It is considered & adjudged by the Court that the sd BRASWELL be Amerced the sum of three pounds & enter into Recog for his good behavior six months Whereupon the sd Wm BRASWELL acknowledged himself indebted to our Sovergn Lord the King in the sum of Ten Pounds to be Levyed upon his lands & Tenemts, goods & Chattels with condition that he behave himself towards his Majesty and all his Leige People for six months from hence coming then the above Recognizance to be void else to remain in full force {THOMAS STONEHAM also pled guilty and was fined 20 shillings and placed on 3 months' probation. CB} From ???@??? Sun Mar 30 00:13:41 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA12189 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 08:04:50 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 29 Mar 1997 07:05:04 -0700 Resent-Date: 29 Mar 1997 07:05:04 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 08:39:09 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970329083907_-934558779@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org cc: PATTIBILL@aol.com, linda@iggy.salsa.net Subject: WILLIAM BRASWELL's legal problems, 1719-1720 (Concluded) Resent-Message-ID: <"SHFpA.0.fZ.F6IFp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/485 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Dear Cousins, The following exerpts from "Colonial Court Papers, Civil and Criminal Papers - 1711-1719" (CCR 149 - Folder 1719) NC State Archives, Raleigh, may help explain WILLIAM's assault on Constable RICHARD WASHINGTON: The Information of ESTHER KIRBY taken this 23d Janry 1718/9 This Informt Saith that on the 16th of this Inst Wm BRASSWELL came to her house & Deliverd two Publicke Bills of ys Province one for ffifteen Pounds & the other for Eight Pound and Desired she would Carry them down to Court to Col Moseley & gett them changed for Smaler Biles (if they were good) but if not to return them to him again. And the sd BRASSWELL said he receivd' them from one JOSEPH DURDEN. ESTHER KIRBY (RICHARD WASHINGTON attested to the foregoing immediately following.) On January 29, 1718/19, Governor Charles Eden sent "The Deputy Marshal or Constable for the Westerne Shore of Chowan" an order to arrest Wm BRASSEL and JOSEPH DARDEN for having "lately utered Several forged Biles of Credit of this Province". "On the :9th day of ffeb:ry. . .in ye 5th . . .of Reigne of out Sovereigne Lord George. . . and ye Yeare of our Lord 1718 {1719 NS. CB}, JOSEPH DARDEN of Nazymond County in Virga and WILLIAM BRASWELL of this Province" posted 200 pound bail promisory notes against their properties and were released on their recognizance to appear "at ye Court house at Machicomack at Queen Ann's Creek in Chowan on ye last Tuisday in March next ensueing the date hereof, then & there to answere and give evidence unto Such causses Matters and things as shall be alleadged against and required of them.. .." From ???@??? Sun Mar 30 00:13:42 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA19518 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 09:14:35 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 29 Mar 1997 08:14:41 -0700 Resent-Date: 29 Mar 1997 08:14:41 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 09:01:05 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970329090104_-1805514797@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@emcee.com Subject: Re: Robert Braswell [1612-1688] Wife Rebecca or Robert Braswell [1610-1667[Wi... Resent-Message-ID: <"A_lYH.0.MG1.X7JFp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/486 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Dear Cousin, The identity of the Rev. ROBERT BRACEWELL (1611-1668), his children and legitimate grandchildren in seventeenth century Isle of Wight County, Virginia, will be proved by appropriate documentation in forthcoming editions of the Braswell Website. Suffice to say for now that the name of the immigrant's wife or wives is unknown, but the unfaithful wife of his eldest son, ROBERT, Jr. (b.c.1650) has been shown by circumstantial evidence to have been one SUSANNAH BURGESS (Will, 1714). Less compelling evidence suggests that the wife of his younger brother, RICHARD BRACEWELL (c.1652-1725) was SARAH VALENTINE. In any case, her Christian name was definitely SARAH, not REBECCA, which was the name of one of their daughters, the wife of WILLIAM WEST. Most of us in this research descend from RICHARD & SARAH VALENTINE(?) BRACEWELL. CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Sun Mar 30 00:13:43 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA10794 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:12:43 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 29 Mar 1997 11:12:46 -0700 Resent-Date: 29 Mar 1997 11:12:46 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:12:09 -0500 (EST) From: Kikki1997@aol.com Message-ID: <970329131208_-967960126@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: Braswell family history Resent-Message-ID: <"XfDwQ1.0.LY2.TkLFp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/487 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com To whom it may concern, I got your address from Cyndi's genealogy web sites and wanted to see if you could help me. I am looking for info on some family member but they spell their last name Brasuell. I thought this might be the same line. I have an Aaron Brasuell who married Mary D. McLarty. Their child is Thelma Elaine Brasuell who married Guy Lythian Henderson. If any of these names ring a bell with you, I would deeply appreciate any info that you may be able to give me. Thank you very much, Kikki From ???@??? Sun Mar 30 00:13:43 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA29549 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:09:34 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 29 Mar 1997 13:09:34 -0700 Resent-Date: 29 Mar 1997 13:09:34 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 15:07:33 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970329150732_1649474759@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org cc: PATTIBILL@aol.com, VALERIEW@aol.com Subject: Braswell controversies resolved Resent-Message-ID: <"cZOmu2.0.763.zRNFp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/488 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Dear Cousins, In order to quiet certain controversies about relationships within our original family in Isle of Wight County,Virginia, the following information (with appropriate I of W county record citations) is offered: 1. Rev. ROBERT BRACEWELL (1611-1668), The Immigrant, died a widower and his wife's name was never mentioned in any extant American record. His will mentions no wife (Will & Deed Book 1, p. 52) and the account current on his estate (WD 1, Vol. 2, p.81) shows that REBECCA BAGNALL IZARD (Mother-in-law to his daughter, ANN BRACEWELL BAGNALL(c.1653-c.1682) performed the administrative duties that would normally have devolved to the widow, had there been one. 2. ROBERT BRACEWELL, JR. (c.1650-1696+) had no legitimate heirs of record. His wife, SUSANNAH was nee BURGESS, as proved by MARY BURGESS SKINNER's acknowledgement of April 20, 1669 (Surry Co DB 1, p. 332) and the will of JOYCE CRIPPS (WD 1, Vol. 2, p.202) in which she "cut off with a shilling" one "SHUSAN BRASWELL my Sisters Daughter." That SUSANNAH's children were sired by "Commoner" RICHARD TOWLE is proved by the latter's 1692 will in which he leaves his small estate to "my three youngest children of SUSANNA BRASWELL" (WD1, Vol. 2, p. 323). 3. ROBERT BRACEWELL, Jr. and his younger brother, RICHARD (c.1652-1725) sold off their Isle of Wight inheritance from their father as soon as they came of age in the mid-1670's and removed to Nansemond County, nearby. The records from that county and period were lost in a courthouse fire. RICHARD took his wife, but ROBERT left his behind, and only returned once (of record) to give his "wife" SUSANNAH a power of attorney to answer suits in Isle of Wight (DB 1, p. 202). We may infer that SUSANNAH was something of a Xanthippe or runaround , not only from her own behavior, but from the checkered marital career of her mother, MARY FLAKE BURGESS,{"Every woman becomes her mother" as the truism goes.} who was beaten so badly by her husband, JOHN COLLINS, in 1694, that she required SUSANNAH BRASWELL's and BRIDGET LEWIS' personal care to recover (DB 1, Orders 1693-1695, pp. 50-51). 4. RICHARD BRACEWELL's wife was named SARAH, not REBECCA. Every record signed by RICHARD & wife (beginning with RICHARD & SARAH BRACEWEll to THOMAS GREEN, 2-7-1674: WD 1, Vol. 1, p. 307) right down to SARAH's own will (Will Book 4, p. 64. Signed March 20, 1734) renders her name as "Sarah" and nothing else. Circumstantial evidence suggests that her maiden name was VALENTINE. Any documentary proof of her derivation from this FFV (First Family of Viriginia) is presumed to have burned with one or the other Tidewater county courthouses. There is nothing to support the contention that it was "Sampson", "Bryant", or anything else. 5. This researcher has never had contact with any "Bracewell-Towle" descendant although some do remain in Isle of Wight County to this day. The line seemed to have declined rapidly after 1700, slipping into poverty and obscurity, and contributed few, if any, settlers to North Carolina. Therefore the vast majority of us descend from RICHARD and SARAH VALENTINE(?) BRACEWELL. CAREY BRACEWELL From ???@??? Sun Mar 30 15:51:10 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA24568 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 09:13:45 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 30 Mar 1997 08:14:05 -0700 Resent-Date: 30 Mar 1997 08:14:05 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 09:46:35 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970330094634_-1236037765@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: JRH20@aol.com, Braswell-L@genealogy.org cc: PATTIBILL@aol.com, VALERIEW@aol.com, linda@iggy.salsa.net, rio@netime.com, SusanMark@compuserve.com Subject: Re: Braswells Resent-Message-ID: <"f6Uv-3.0.ki.yCeFp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/489 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Dear Cousin Richard, Thanks a million for your recent E-letter. You have added to my store of information on our family, for which I am truly grateful! Based on what you shared, OBEDIENCE BRASWELL HALL's birthyear should be preceeded by "c" or "Circa" 1763. Pal Spencer & I worked out that estimate years ago. And OBEDIENCE was surely born in Orange County, North Carolina, not Wilkes, where she married DAVID HALL. (Her family moved to Anson/Montgomery Co in 1769, to Wilkes c. 1781, with their pacifist Quaker/Baptist brethren to stay clear of the Revolutionary War fighting that had then shifted South. Thank goodness your DAVID HALL was a redblooded patriot, for his pension application supplied us with information on the family's whereabouts and doings during this critical period that has proved invaluable! I share your frustration about the dearth of SNOW information. The ONLY source of information that names this as OBEDIENCE BRASWELL's maiden name was my maiden Aunt Laura Brazil (1869-1953). Laura, who was visually-impaired, was the family historian of her generation, and a great collector of oral tradition. She always said that the maiden names of my gggg- and ggg-grandparents, taken together, made "SNOW-WHITE". Well, the WHITE checked out (JEMIMA WHITE, 1764-c.1841), but I could never link OBEDIENCE with the SNOWs, but believe me, I tried! The SNOW family of North Carolina included many Quaker branches and were centered in Perquimins County in the Albemarle Sound region where RICHARD BRACEWELL married his OBEDIENCE around 1745. Since this would have been an "out of Meeting" (non-Quaker) marriage, there is no mention of it in any Quaker records I have seen, and you know how fragmentary civil records are for that period. RICHARD's father, VALENTINE, was so poor that he left no extant records that would have linked his family with the SNOWs. {Cf. Edgecombe DB5, p.462 of March 4, 1744, in which SAMPSON WILLIAMS sold SAMUEL WILLIAMS 320 acres on the north side of Tar River "whereon VALENTINE BRASWELL now lives", no doubt part of the impetus to VAL to pioneer the Piedmont--Orange County--shortly thereafter.} So you see, Cousin, the SNOW connection is based on heresay only. It frustrates me further that this connection has been accepted as proven fact, and the (?) has been dropped from SNOW. It is probably true--but not proven. From ???@??? Sun Mar 30 23:49:39 1997 Received: from emout01.mail.aol.com (emout01.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.92]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA09608 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 17:17:31 -0600 From: JRH20@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout01.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA14407 for braswell@pbmo.net; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 18:17:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 18:17:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970330181700_988574727@emout01.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: St.Lukes's Church Hello - Perhaps you have already seen it but if not, the following article appeared in the Tulsa Tribune last week under a section titled "News Written For the New Reader" CHURCH'S ORGAN IS 300 YEARS OLD Smithfield, Va, may have the world's oldest chamber organ. It's in the historic St.Luke's Church. Experts say it's the oldest English chamber organ in America. It may be the oldest in the world. The church was built in 1632. The organ was shipped from England in the 1950s, when the church was restored. Experts say the organ may be as old as the original church. The wooden pipes are still in perfect condition. But the bellows are worn out. That's the part of the organ that supplies the wind to make the sound. Church officials and experts are trying to decide whether to restore the organ. The outside has been restored. But the inside needs work to make the organ playable again. The organ came to Virginia from Norfolk, England. It originally was in Hunstanton Hall, the home of Nicholas and Roger LeStrange/ A family inventory in 1630 listed the organ. Richard Hall Tulsa, OK From ???@??? Tue Apr 01 19:26:42 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA11871 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 19:16:20 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 1 Apr 1997 18:16:05 -0700 Resent-Date: 1 Apr 1997 18:16:05 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970401191720.007e3100@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 19:17:20 -0600 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: Braswell-L, St.Lukes's Church Article Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"7HZ2q.0.C_1.KDRGp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/490 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Richard, Thanks for sharing the article. It was interesting reading considering our connection to St. Lukes Church. Keith ---------- Original Message Starts Here. ---------- From: JRH20@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 18:17:00 -0500 (EST) To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: St.Lukes's Church Hello - Perhaps you have already seen it but if not, the following article appeared in the Tulsa Tribune last week under a section titled "News Written For the New Reader" CHURCH'S ORGAN IS 300 YEARS OLD Smithfield, Va, may have the world's oldest chamber organ. It's in the historic St.Luke's Church. Experts say it's the oldest English chamber organ in America. It may be the oldest in the world. The church was built in 1632. The organ was shipped from England in the 1950s, when the church was restored. Experts say the organ may be as old as the original church. The wooden pipes are still in perfect condition. But the bellows are worn out. That's the part of the organ that supplies the wind to make the sound. Church officials and experts are trying to decide whether to restore the organ. The outside has been restored. But the inside needs work to make the organ playable again. The organ came to Virginia from Norfolk, England. It originally was in Hunstanton Hall, the home of Nicholas and Roger LeStrange/ A family inventory in 1630 listed the organ. Richard Hall Tulsa, OK ---------- Original Message Ends Here. ---------- David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Tue Apr 01 21:14:10 1997 Received: from emout02.mail.aol.com (emout02.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.93]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA08823 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 21:10:48 -0600 From: Lin4art@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA28939 for braswell@pbmo.net; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 22:10:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 22:10:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970401220920_1286506956@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Re: Braswell family Guestbook Thank you so very much. I felt so foolish. I am learning a lot about my family roots, and computers. I do hope you edited out the awfull stuff as well. Looks like you got a couple of hackers signed too. Have a nice day. :) Linda C. Boyd Brown From ???@??? Tue Apr 01 23:01:32 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA01782 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 22:55:43 -0600 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 531); 1 Apr 1997 21:55:30 -0700 Resent-Date: 1 Apr 1997 21:55:30 -0700 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970401225646.007ca7b0@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 22:56:46 -0600 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: Nathan Braswell Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"E9RGG2.0.5-2.1RUGp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/491 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Debbie, Welcome to the Braswell List! I posted your note here to the list for you. Anytime you wish to post in the future, post your message to Braswell-L@Genealogy.Org. Keith Braswell Fellow List members, ============== Here is Debbie's note: =================== Hello Braswells! My name is Debbie Henry from North Little Rock, Arkansas. I am trying to find out anything I can about my Great Grandfather. His name was Nathan Braswell. We know he was born in 1831 and possibly came from South Carolina. He was a whopping 62 when he married Jane Hooks Hinsey in 1893. I would love to hear from someone if anyone knows anything. By the way, I was astonished to find so many Braswells. Here in Arkansas, there aren't that many. At least outside of our family. My e-mail address is DHENRY@UAEX.EDU. ---------- David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Wed Apr 02 23:18:55 1997 Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA22476 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:23:40 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA16506; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:22:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:22:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970402212144_1552866364@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: DHENRY2UAEX.EDU.@aol.com cc: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Nathan Braswell Dear Cousin Debbie, I checked my index to nineteenth century Arkansas Braswells,which contains several hundred names, but found no NATHAN. Do you know when he arrived in Arkansas? My records are by no means definitive for any but those of the first Braswells in Arkansas, the family of RICHARD BRAZIL (1759-1842){my ggg-gf} who pioneered Saline County in the l820's and his brother, WILLIAM BRASWELL (c.1766-c.1855) who pioneered Carroll County in the l830's. Are you aware that "Braswell" is a variant of the original English surname, "Bracewell", albeit the one preferred by at least 85% of the lineal descendants of Rev. Robert Bracewell, 1611-1668, the Immigrant ancestor to most of us? Any of 56 or so spellings that say "brasul" or "brazul" is one of ours. But not BREAZEALE! I'm impressed by your grandpa NATHAN's vigor, however my branch can top that: the abovementioned RICHARD remarried at 83 {to a mere lassy of 66 named JANE CARPENTER, nextdoor in Saline Co. in 1841}. You can read about my lineage on the Braswell Web page under "Braswell genealogists". Happy hunting! CAREY From ???@??? Thu Apr 03 09:59:14 1997 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA22851 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 06:04:39 -0600 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id HAA11636 for braswell@pbmo.net; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 07:04:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 07:04:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970403070407_-1336085059@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown --------------------- Forwarded message: From: MAILER-DAEMON@aol.com (Mail Delivery Subsystem) To: CBracewell@aol.com Date: 97-04-02 22:44:53 EST The original message was received at Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:22:59 -0500 (EST) from root@localhost ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- DHENRY2UAEX.EDU. (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 DHENRY2UAEX.EDU.... User unknown ----- Original message follows ----- Return-Path: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA16506; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:22:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:22:59 -0500 (EST) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970402212144_1552866364@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: DHENRY2UAEX.EDU. cc: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Nathan Braswell Dear Cousin Debbie, I checked my index to nineteenth century Arkansas Braswells,which contains several hundred names, but found no NATHAN. Do you know when he arrived in Arkansas? My records are by no means definitive for any but those of the first Braswells in Arkansas, the family of RICHARD BRAZIL (1759-1842){my ggg-gf} who pioneered Saline County in the l820's and his brother, WILLIAM BRASWELL (c.1766-c.1855) who pioneered Carroll County in the l830's. Are you aware that "Braswell" is a variant of the original English surname, "Bracewell", albeit the one preferred by at least 85% of the lineal descendants of Rev. Robert Bracewell, 1611-1668, the Immigrant ancestor to most of us? Any of 56 or so spellings that say "brasul" or "brazul" is one of ours. But not BREAZEALE! I'm impressed by your grandpa NATHAN's vigor, however my branch can top that: the abovementioned RICHARD remarried at 83 {to a mere lassy of 66 named JANE CARPENTER, nextdoor in Saline Co. in 1841}. You can read about my lineage on the Braswell Web page under "Braswell genealogists". Happy hunting! CAREY From ???@??? Tue Apr 08 22:34:42 1997 Received: from emout01.mail.aol.com (emout01.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.92]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA07530 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 22:08:43 -0500 From: JM7632@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout01.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id NAA08033 for braswell@pbmo.net; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970408135658_1850469781@emout01.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Braswell Was unable to access the Braswell family page. I had http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/Braswell - is that right? I am searching for an aunt - Margaret Kitchens (I believe was her maiden name) - who married a Braswell. She was born in the early 1900's in the Fayette County, Georgia area. Do you have any information on her or her husband in your research? Thanks, Janet JM7632@aol.com From ???@??? Wed Apr 09 09:55:00 1997 Received: from smtp3.fas.harvard.edu (root@smtp3.fas.harvard.edu [140.247.30.83]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA15240 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 08:41:13 -0500 Received: from smtp.fas.harvard.edu ([128.103.150.167]) by smtp3.fas.harvard.edu with SMTP id JAA32279; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 09:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 09:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970409094248.3ecf4f62@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: lbarron@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: braswell@pbmo.net From: Lucy Barron Subject: John & Rebecca [PRUITT] Braswell Keith, Here is my message I'd like to post when the server is back up. Thanks so much for offering to post it for me. Lucy Barron Lexington, MA >Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 16:36:25 >To: braswell-l-request@genealogy.org >From: Lucy Barron >Subject: John & Rebecca [PRUITT] Braswell >Cc: braswell-l@genealogy.org > >>Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 09:03:51 >>To: braz >>From: Lucy Barron >>Subject: John & Rebecca [PRUITT] Braswell >> >>Is anyone out there working on this family and willing to share info. on them? [John being son of Richard and Obedience [SNOW??] BRASWELL. John moved his family from Greenville Dist., SC to Anderson Co.,Tennessee in the early 1800s. He shows up in White Co. later and some children can be found in Jackson and Smith Counties. >> >>I'm interested in any information on the children of John and Rebecca [who did they marry, where did they migrate to, children's names, etc.], esp. son Robert. I'm trying to tie my Robert BRASWELL of Smith Co., TN into this family. >> >>I'm also interested in Rebecca PRUITTs ancestry/siblings. >> >>The children I have for John & Rebecca are: >> >>John, b.c.1790 >>Richard, b.c.1792, d.c.1840/50, m. Elizabeth >>Robert, b.c.1794, [d.1849, m. Amelia STEVENS, dau. of John {assuming he's same as mine}] >>William, b.c.1796 >>Dianah, b. 9 Oct. 1797, m. 11 Dec. 1817 to Richard SMITH >>Samuel, b.c.1799 >>Reuben, b.c.1800/1806 >>James J., b.c.1811 >>Emley (Emily), b.c.1816 m. by 1836 to Joseph RODDY >> >>There were probably more children. >> >>Lucy Barron >>Lexington, MA >> > Lucy Barron Senior Serial Cataloger Widener Library, Rm. 87 Harvard University Cambridge, MA 02138 From ???@??? Fri Apr 11 07:56:36 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA12701 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 05:21:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 28274 invoked by uid 531); 11 Apr 1997 10:21:35 -0000 Resent-Date: 11 Apr 1997 10:21:35 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 06:21:19 -0400 (EDT) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970411062117_-735511723@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Braswell on US Gen Web Resent-Message-ID: <"0Oxij3.0.jv6.k2XJp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/495 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com The Braswell Family homepage (net) and email address have been submitted to 13 states as a contact for genealogical research. Individuals having special interest in a specific county of a state are encouraged to post a query and refer correspondents to the Braswell page if appropriate. For those of you that have not browsed the US Gen Web, the URL is - http://www.usgenweb.com/ A status report follows - SURNAME REGISTERS are permanent. I have emailed each state without a surname register to suggest that they start one. ARKANSAS - Surname Register MISSOURI - Surname Register NORTH CAROLINA - Roots-L NC Page OKLAHOMA - Surname Register SOUTH CAROLINA - SC Links TEXAS - Surname Register VIRGINIA - Surname Register Unknown/Multiple County Queries and Guest Books have to be re-posted occasionally. ALABAMA - Guest Book and "Ancestor Queries." (Still not posted) FLORIDA - Multiple County Queries. (Still not posted) GEORGIA - Guest Book LOUISIANA - Unknown Parish Query (Still not posted) MISSISSIPPI - Unknown County Query TENNESSEE - Unknown County Query Submitted by Foy Braswell FoyBrasw@aol.com From ???@??? Sun Apr 13 23:55:25 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA17314 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:37:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 32145 invoked by uid 531); 14 Apr 1997 01:37:27 -0000 Resent-Date: 14 Apr 1997 01:37:27 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-ID: <33518B12.23E5@imsday.com> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:40:34 -0500 From: mary anderson Reply-To: i232384@imsday.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Braswell-L@Genealogy.Org Subject: Braziel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"sdB4u2.0.Cs7.NfOKp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/496 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com This is great, we are searching for Brashall, Brassell, Breazeale, Braziel. The first known is Henry Brashall in Va., about 1649. The family went on to the Carolinas, made the move across the southern states to Mississippi, then on East Texas and Central Texas. Have found very few folks researching this line. Mary Anderson 101 East Young Dayton, Texas 77535 From ???@??? Mon Apr 14 11:30:20 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA04115 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:36:21 -0500 Received: (qmail 14949 invoked by uid 531); 14 Apr 1997 14:36:18 -0000 Resent-Date: 14 Apr 1997 14:36:18 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:35:34 -0400 (EDT) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970414091412_1783925188@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Fwd: Braswell = Brazzell Resent-Message-ID: <"NXKRO.0.Wf3.X3aKp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/497 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com I gave Cousin Max a short history and invited him to join us on the net and email. Cousin Foy FoyBrasw@aol.com --------------------- Forwarded message: From: EWDB57A@prodigy.com (MR MAX S BRAZZELL) To: FoyBrasw@aol.com Date: 97-04-13 22:00:32 EDT Foy, my name as traced to my G Grand Father Aaron Brazzell was mispelled many times, as Brazil, Brassell, end even Braswell. My GG Grandfather came from TN: I'm guessing Sumner Co. TN to Clark County , IN where a son was born in 1846 named Martin Luther Brazzell and his mother was Anna Lints. The story by my G Grandmother as told by her husband was that the family originally came from Germany and were workers in Brass. Could this be the origin of Braswell and do you think there is a connection between Braswell and Brazzell. Did most of the immigrates from Germany travel through France and to England before coming to America? Max Brazzell ( Answer will be apppreciated) . From ???@??? Mon Apr 14 11:30:21 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA07577 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:26:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 23075 invoked by uid 531); 14 Apr 1997 15:26:16 -0000 Resent-Date: 14 Apr 1997 15:26:16 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:25:41 -0400 (EDT) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970414092530_-1134558006@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Fwd: Braswell family Resent-Message-ID: <"bDI8O.0.Qe5.NoaKp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/498 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com I sent Rebecca a short welcome and gave her our email and net addresses. Cousin Foy FoyBrasw@aol.com --------------------- Forwarded message: From: rexb@nltc.net (Rex Bertram) Reply-to: rexb@nltc.net To: FoyBrasw@aol.com Date: 97-04-14 01:23:13 EDT Hi Foy, My name is Rebecca Lee, Im looking for A Braswell by the name of Geogiania that married a Clarence (Hinton) Brown in 1877 they were born somewhere around 1850-1855 and had a son by the name of Mark Clarence Brown and that married Florence Corbett in 1911. From what I have found out Clarence actually married Georgiania under the name of Hinton, so I don't know if he had been adopted or what happened there but when his son got married his name was written as Clarence Brown on the marriage cert. and also his sons last name is Brown. Anyway I don't know quite what is going on but if you might know anything about this particular line could you email me back? Thank you, Rebecca From ???@??? Tue Apr 15 00:26:10 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA06848 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:07:25 -0500 Received: (qmail 8787 invoked by uid 531); 15 Apr 1997 05:07:25 -0000 Resent-Date: 15 Apr 1997 05:07:24 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <199704150507.WAA18884@ico.com> From: "Nona Williams" To: "Braswell Mailing List" , Subject: Braswell family Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:04:43 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"6Spq-3.0.C92.CqmKp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/499 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Max, I think your Aaron Braswell (or spelling variation) comes from my Braswell - Williams family. I have an Aaron Braswell who married Nancy Williams. I believe they moved from Tennessee to Madison Co., Missouri by 1850. Does that sound right? They apparently had a large family but I only have the names of a few of their children. Do you have a full list? -Nona From ???@??? Tue Apr 15 09:09:05 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA14684 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 02:13:11 -0500 Received: (qmail 22845 invoked by uid 531); 15 Apr 1997 07:13:12 -0000 Resent-Date: 15 Apr 1997 07:13:12 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; To: dcarter@InfoAve.Net, Braswell-L@Genealogy.org Subject: Re: SAMPSON RESEARCH Message-ID: <19970415.031034.11038.5.jameswgreen@juno.com> References: <3352CD78.74E8@infoave.net> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-14 From: jameswgreen@juno.com (James W. Green III) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 03:12:17 EDT Resent-Message-ID: <"0yETY.0.ta5.7goKp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/500 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:36:09 -0400 DON CARTER writes: >James, I have gotten additional information on my Sarah SAMPSON, which >might help in determined who her parents are? She was born 15 Mar. >1726 in Gloucester co., Va. She died Jan. 8,1795 in Wilkes Co.,Ga. She >was married to aThomas Carleton 31 Mar.,1744. If you can give me any >information on this SAMPSON Family line, I would deeply appreciated. >THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!! Don Carter Can anyone help Don Carter? Is there a list for SAMPSONs? -- James W. Green III / Rt.5, Box 720 / Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA home:803-635-9236 http://www.Genealogy.Org/~green http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/9389 From ???@??? Tue Apr 15 13:21:59 1997 Received: from legend.txdirect.net (root@legend.txdirect.net [204.57.120.1]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA07461 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:10:24 -0500 Received: from birch295 (dtp01-08.txdirect.net [204.57.92.232]) by legend.txdirect.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA16775 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:10:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199704151710.MAA16775@legend.txdirect.net> From: "Guy Braswell" To: Subject: gedcom file? Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:06:55 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Keith, I have sent you a couple of messages and haven't heard from you, I'm concerned that my server may not be working probably. Please let me know if you have received my gedcom files, sent about a week ago. Thanks Karen PS There are a couple of ? I have concerning the sources of the data on Elijah, JD and Elijah Thomas. I'm just curious as to what your sources for B,D and marriage info on these guys? I have just received the death certificate on ET and Minnie. The death date on Elijah T is the same one you have but the birth date is July 15,(you have the 10) 1958. Do you have any information on James Ward Braswell? I am also researching the WARD family and was just wondering. Talk later, Karen From ???@??? Wed Apr 16 09:29:14 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA05112 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:02:08 -0500 Received: (qmail 31640 invoked by uid 531); 16 Apr 1997 04:02:05 -0000 Resent-Date: 16 Apr 1997 04:02:05 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:01:22 -0400 (EDT) X-UIDL: 861172625.001 From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970415231857_-500255010@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: rof@backporch.com, Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Fwd: Brazwell = Brazzell Resent-Message-ID: <"hJLWx2.0.Hk7.yy4Lp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/501 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Status: RO Received the following message from Cousin Max and sent him a short answer. Foy Braswell --------------------- Forwarded message: From: EWDB57A@prodigy.com (MR MAX S BRAZZELL) To: FoyBrasw@aol.com CC: roth@backporch.com Date: 97-04-15 22:49:46 EDT Aaron Brazzell Married Anna M. Lints in TN 4 children born in TN Elizabeth Brazzell 1839, William Brazwell 1840, John Braswell 1842, Allen Braswell 1845, Last two born in Ind. Martin Luther Brazzell Oct 30, 1846, Susanah Braswell 1849 married Robert A Taylor Dec 9, 1873. After leaving Clark County, In the family settled in Vigo County, IN Max Brazzell From ???@??? Wed Apr 16 09:29:24 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA27730 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:32:24 -0500 Received: (qmail 6749 invoked by uid 531); 16 Apr 1997 13:32:16 -0000 Resent-Date: 16 Apr 1997 13:32:15 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:31:38 -0400 (EDT) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970416093133_-1167644175@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Fwd: Brazwell = Brazzell Resent-Message-ID: <"xADXG2.0.Gf1.UJDLp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/502 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com Another message from Cousin Max. --------------------- Forwarded message: From: EWDB57A@prodigy.com (MR MAX S BRAZZELL) To: FoyBrasw@aol.com CC: rof@backporch.com Date: 97-04-16 09:12:50 EDT Foy & Nona, Pls. forget any referenceto Martin Luther Brazzell born in Clark County, IN. After talking to Sister inlaw who researched the informmation. She thinks that Aaron Braswell=Brazzell traveled from Tn to Clay County, IN where his entire family was born. Sorry for this wives tale. Aaron Braswell=Brazzell Married Anna M. Lints in Tennessee and moved to Clay County, IN. It is believed that both Aaron and Anna M. Lints were born in Tennessee. The 1840 Census shows Aaron and Anna M Lints living in Clay County, In. It is also believed that Aaron was buried in Jackson Twp., Clay Co., Ind about 1848-1850. Anna M. Lints traveled to Ill. after hes Aaron's death and I have no further informationn after that. Below is a list of chiildren. Spelling as shown on cenus records Brazzell, Elizabeth born 1839 Braswell, William " 1840 Married Mariah no marriage date Braswell, John " 1842 Died during Civil War Braswell, Allen " 1845 Brazzell, Martin Luther 9-30-1846 died 9-11-1925 Riley, IN Married Lacey, Elizabeth True 10-12-1871 Braswell, Susanah born 1849 Married Robert A. Taylor 12-9-1873 Thank you both for your kind help and I hope some of this info will help you in your endeavors. Nona, I believe you connected Aaron to his family. This is the only good info I've had about Aaron. Thank you. Max S. Brazzell From ???@??? Wed Apr 16 12:59:09 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA19089 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:56:23 -0500 Received: (qmail 5258 invoked by uid 531); 16 Apr 1997 17:56:17 -0000 Resent-Date: 16 Apr 1997 17:56:17 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <199704161756.KAA09323@ico.com> From: "Nona Williams" To: "Braswell Mailing List" Cc: Subject: Fw: Braswell family Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:53:31 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"B79JD2.0.3I1.0BHLp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/503 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 3a6f368415082dd0f306ec5215f0a875 Other children of Aaron Braswell and Nancy Williams whose names aren't known: male born 1810-15 male born 1815-1820 female born 1815-1820 female born 1815-1820 male born 1820-1825 (also mentioned in the message below) Aaron and Nancy Braswell moved from Tennessee to Madison Co., Missouri in 1852. ---------- > From: Nona Williams > To: MR MAX S BRAZZELL > Subject: Re: Braswell family > Date: Tuesday, April 15, 1997 5:13 PM > > I wonder if your Aaron could be a son of Aaron Braswell and Nancy Williams? > Since I don't have names for all the children shown on the census, it seems > quite possible that Aaron would have named a son after himself. > > This Aaron was born ca. 1776-1787 in North Carolina. He married Nancy > Williams between 1810-20 and they resided in Smith Co., Tennessee. They > were on the Warren Co., TN census in 1830 and in DeKalb Co., TN in 1840. > > He had a son (name unknown) who was born between 1820-25. Could that be > your Aaron? The children whose names I do know are: > > Paralee born 1820 married Abraham Norton and resided Madison Co., MO. > > William Braswell born 1826 > Henry Braswell born 1828 > Mikajah Braswell born 1833 > Lucresia Braswell born 1837 > Duane Braswell born 1837 > Leroy Braswell born 1844 - he was in the Civil War > > I don't know where or when Aaron died. > > Nona > > ---------- > > From: MR MAX S BRAZZELL > > To: rof@backporch.com > > Subject: Braswell family > > Date: Tuesday, April 15, 1997 2:38 PM > > > > Nona, Aaron Brazzell Married Anna M Lints from Tennessee, then > > traveled we think to southern Ind. to Clark County, IN where a son > > Martin Luther Brazzell was born Oct. 30, 1946, after he traveled to > > Vigo County, IN where he settled and died. His entire faimly consist > > of Elizabeth Brazzell 1829, William Braswell 1840, John Braswell 1842, > > Allen Braswell 1845, Then Martin Luther, 1846 and Susanah Brazwell > > 1849 who married a Robert A. Taylor. Some birth dates from Cenus. > > Hope this clears something up. Appartently all other children were > > born in Tennessee except Martin Luther and Susanah. > > Max Brazzell From ???@??? Thu Apr 17 22:50:48 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA01554 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:47:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 6829 invoked by uid 531); 18 Apr 1997 03:47:14 -0000 Resent-Date: 18 Apr 1997 03:47:14 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970417224736.007f7670@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:47:36 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: Billy Bob Bert Brazell In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"AM9X21.0.dg1.1xkLp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/505 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: a0c268399d02ee5ecebbe27f3d8db3b9 My Name is Billy Bob Bert Brazell, age 57, have been chasing dead relatives since I was a kid. My linage goes back to James Brazell b 1787 in NC somewhere. The Census shows that he moved to Georgia. He married Rachel Yergan and they had at least seven children, Merrill B.,Jabez, Arseneth, Mary Ann, Eliza Jane, Cynthia & Malachi. They were born in Georgia, later they moved to Alabama and so did he. He died in the 1850's. Merrill B. and his wife Alamaria (maiden name unknown at this time) had at least nine children, the first born were twin sons, Dale & William Monroe. They were fortunate to survive the War of the Northern Aggression. William Monroe served a few months in the CSA at the close of the war, most of it in a Yankee prison. The Brazell twins and a sister married siblings of the Robert Cunningham family and migrated to Hood County Texas in the 1880's. I am looking for the parantage of James and Rachel and their story. You never know, maybe the spellings of the name was different in the mid to late 18th century, as most people were illiterate. I have enjoyed reading your archives of letters of Braswell/Bracewell/Brazil/and more....researching the genealogys. My GEDCOM files were sent under a seperate E-Mail Best Regards Billy Bob Brazell bbrazell@xit.net Dumas, TX David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Thu Apr 17 23:43:03 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA09621 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:42:21 -0500 Received: (qmail 13761 invoked by uid 531); 18 Apr 1997 04:42:18 -0000 Resent-Date: 18 Apr 1997 04:42:18 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970417234237.007fb7b0@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:42:37 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: Welcome New Braswell List Subscriber's. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"P4Ohq3.0.qM3.eklLp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/506 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 87bc83b23ce7d3d25f9734d50660de97 Dear Braswell List Member, I would like to officially welcome the following new members to the Braswell-List. This is not something that I consistantly do so those of you who didn't get an official welcome please don't take offense! dhenry@uaex.edu (Deborah F. Henry-Little Rock, AR) rcarpent@monroe.lib.mi.us (Bob Carpenter) bbrazell@xit.net (Billy Bob Bert Brazell) i232384@imsday.com (Mary Anderson) cj@best-service.com (Carl Stewart-Fresno, CA) edhall@telapex.com (Pamela S. Hall-McComb, MS) EWDB57A@prodigy.com (Max S. Brazzell) Please take some time to post your current research questions and anything else that you would like to contribute relating to the Braswell Family. If you haven't done so already you might enjoy reading through some of the 500 plus messages that are in archive on The Braswell Family web page. If you are not sure how to get to them just let me know and I will help. There are currently 74 members of this Braswell Emailing List and you are one of them! If at anytime you wish to Unsubscribe from this list simply send a message to Braswell-L-Request@Genealogy.Org with the subject as UNSUBSCRIBE. Thank You, Keith Braswell Braswell-List Coordinator David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Fri Apr 18 17:49:41 1997 Received: from SWBELL.net (mail1.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.1.2]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA08298 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:16:21 -0500 Received: from ppp-151-164-38-52.rcsntx.swbell.net (ppp-151-164-38-52.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.38.52]) by SWBELL.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA29923; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:16:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: by ppp-151-164-38-52.rcsntx.swbell.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4C1D.015D8540@ppp-151-164-38-52.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:21:52 -0500 Message-ID: <01BC4C1D.015D8540@ppp-151-164-38-52.rcsntx.swbell.net> From: Johneda Tinnin Lee To: "'Keith Braswell'" Cc: "'bbrazell@xit.net'" Subject: RE: James Brazell & Rachel Yergan Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:21:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: f2c348acc7a3563fe768c3cce63ad4e5 My name is Johneda Tinnin Lee. I have the same linage that Billy Bob does, I also decend from James Brazell and Rachel Yergan. I have received a lot of information from family members and from "The Brazell Clan" by Sammye Brazell Cupp. I would be happy to exchange information with him. ---------- From: Keith Braswell[SMTP:braswell@pbmo.net] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 1997 10:48 PM To: The Braswell List Subject: Billy Bob Bert Brazell My Name is Billy Bob Bert Brazell, age 57, have been chasing dead relatives since I was a kid. My linage goes back to James Brazell b 1787 in NC somewhere. The Census shows that he moved to Georgia. He married Rachel Yergan and they had at least seven children, Merrill B.,Jabez, Arseneth, Mary Ann, Eliza Jane, Cynthia & Malachi. They were born in Georgia, later they moved to Alabama and so did he. He died in the 1850's. Merrill B. and his wife Alamaria (maiden name unknown at this time) had at least nine children, the first born were twin sons, Dale & William Monroe. They were fortunate to survive the War of the Northern Aggression. William Monroe served a few months in the CSA at the close of the war, most of it in a Yankee prison. The Brazell twins and a sister married siblings of the Robert Cunningham family and migrated to Hood County Texas in the 1880's. I am looking for the parantage of James and Rachel and their story. You never know, maybe the spellings of the name was different in the mid to late 18th century, as most people were illiterate. I have enjoyed reading your archives of letters of Braswell/Bracewell/Brazil/and more....researching the genealogys. My GEDCOM files were sent under a seperate E-Mail Best Regards Billy Bob Brazell bbrazell@xit.net Dumas, TX David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Sat Apr 19 07:21:53 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (qmailr@genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA09775 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 04:42:41 -0500 Received: (qmail 9408 invoked by uid 531); 19 Apr 1997 09:42:36 -0000 Resent-Date: 19 Apr 1997 09:42:36 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 05:42:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Taflin@aol.com Message-ID: <970419054228_18107344@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Patience Braswell Resent-Message-ID: <"-89QU2.0.wI2.BE9Mp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/507 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: c32b02126f5679ff72d375304df8af5d Looking for ancestors of PATIENCE BRASWELL, who married Charles Harrington Junior (1748 - 1797) sometime around 1768. Charles was born in Edgcombe County NC and died in Chatham County. I believe PATIENCE was from Chatham since children were born there. Many thanks! Rebecca Ellis aka taflin@aol.com Snail mail at 3614 Field Stone Drive, Carrollton, TX 75007 From ???@??? Sun Apr 20 00:19:30 1997 Received: from cliff.hot1.net (mail.hot1.net [206.242.204.4]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA26571 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 21:34:09 -0500 Received: from dialup-07.hot1.net by cliff.hot1.net (NTMail 3.01.03) id wa239092; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 02:38:37 +0000 From: "Kim Tribble" To: Subject: Lucinda BRASWELL Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 21:35:48 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BC4D09.A57FECC0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <02383714527672@hot1.net> X-UIDL: 9cab8e0c911e21043b5d5deb9855c516

Keith,
I was looking at your gedcom files tonight and saw a few things that struck a chord with me.  I have found my great-grandfather Samuel H. BRASWELL b. 1853, in the Hopkins County, Kentucky 1870 census.  His mother is Lucinda b. 1832 in Kentucky, also listed are Mary E. b. 1850, Martha J. b. 1857 and Elisha H. b. 1861.  There was no father with the family.  Is this the same Lucinda?  
I also found Samuel and his brother Elisha in the 1910 Lamar County, Texas Census.  Both brothers have children who were born in Missouri, but I don't know where.  What do you think . . .

Kim A. Tribble

Waco, Texas
Fax: 817-412-1416

http://www.hot1.net/ktrib



From ???@??? Tue Apr 22 07:51:11 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA16438 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 02:40:03 -0500 Received: (qmail 20499 invoked by uid 531); 22 Apr 1997 07:40:03 -0000 Resent-Date: 22 Apr 1997 07:40:03 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-ID: <335C6BF3.58C7@computron.net> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 02:42:43 -0500 From: Sandra Lear X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Braswell-L@Genealogy.Org Subject: (no subject) X-URL: http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/blist.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"GVk2h1.0.305.Ij6Np"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/508 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 2685f85296b913626f8a13e92b3666b4 It's been several days since I received any e-mail from subscription. Is there a problem again? Sandra Lear Clute, Texas From ???@??? Tue Apr 22 10:25:31 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA29304 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 08:55:50 -0500 Received: (qmail 11096 invoked by uid 531); 22 Apr 1997 13:55:47 -0000 Resent-Date: 22 Apr 1997 13:55:47 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 09:55:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970422095727.4d4f61ca@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: lbarron@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Kikki1997@aol.com From: Lucy Barron Subject: Re: Braswell family history Cc: braswell-l@genealogy.org Resent-Message-ID: <"hketq.0.2j2.XDCNp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/509 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 251fbb2eff49f443290c88f60f9c8d82 Kikki, Yes, I think with a spelling like BRASUELL that you've come to the right list and should subscribe. These names do not ring a bell with me, although, there are several Aaron BRASWELLs of various spellings in various locales. It would be helpful to other genealogists if you could provide at least one place name in the query and the more the better. You might try reposting with a little more information as to where they were and where you think they might have come from. Then repost every few months to see if anyone has uncovered information or has recently joined the list and might know. Lucy Barron Lexington, MA At 01:12 PM 3/29/97 -0500, you wrote: >To whom it may concern, > I got your address from Cyndi's genealogy web sites and wanted >to see if you could help me. I am looking for info on some family member but >they spell their last name Brasuell. I thought this might be the same line. I >have an Aaron Brasuell who married Mary D. McLarty. Their child is Thelma >Elaine Brasuell who married Guy Lythian Henderson. If any of these names ring >a bell with you, I would deeply appreciate any info that you may be able to >give me. Thank you very much, Kikki > > Lucy Barron Senior Serial Cataloger Widener Library, Rm. 87 Harvard University Cambridge, MA 02138 From ???@??? Wed Apr 23 08:27:49 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA22028 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 04:39:15 -0500 Received: (qmail 10607 invoked by uid 531); 23 Apr 1997 09:39:21 -0000 Resent-Date: 23 Apr 1997 09:39:21 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-ID: Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Bob Carpenter" Subject: Permelia and Nancy A. BRASWELL , NC/SC to TN/KY to IL Date: Tue, 22 Apr 97 14:21:07 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"SG5nI.0.fb2.8ZTNp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/510 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 11337e1dd7fcbf81484af045d983b5ff Hi fellow list members, I have been following the messages for a few weeks now and decided to throw my ancestors into the ring to see if anyone can make any connections to my lineage. Here goes! My GGG grandmother was Nancy A. BRASWELL, born 10 Nov 1838 in TN, married James M. STEARNS c 1865 in Jackson Co. IL, died 13Apr 1884 in Makanda Twp. Jackson Co. IL. I found her listed in the 1850 & 1860 US Census in Hopkins Co. KY residing with John HUBBARD and his wife Permelia. The family included 3 Braswells, Nancy A., Louisa C. born c 1840, and Lean born c 1845, along with several Hubbard children. My assumption from these records is that Permelia was perhaps widowed from the unknown Mr. Braswell and married John Hubbard c 1845-48. There are several Hubbard children too old to be hers, presumably his from a prior marriage and several younger ones, the offspring of their union. All of the children with the Hubbard name are listed as born in KY, all of the Braswells in TN. Permelia (I believe this is the correct spelling, also listed as Peruesa and Perneca) is listed as born in NC or SC, c 1820. I also came across a birth record for Permelia Hubbard, parents listed as John Hubbard and _ Braswell dated 25 Sep 1855 in Hopkins Co. KY so I am pretty confident of the spelling. (This would be one of their later children.) My theory is that Permelia married a Braswell, perhaps in NC or SC, they migrated to TN and/or KY, where he died c 1845-48 and she then remarried as spelled out above. If anyone can provide me with any ancestral links from this info it will be much appreciated. Thanks! Bob Carpenter (rcarpent@monroe.lib.mi.us) From ???@??? Thu Apr 24 14:29:25 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA09601 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:00:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 26579 invoked by uid 531); 24 Apr 1997 16:00:24 -0000 Resent-Date: 24 Apr 1997 16:00:24 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <199704241600.JAA32260@ico.com> From: "Nona Williams" To: "Braswell Mailing List" , "Kim Tribble" Subject: Re: Aaron BRASWELL Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 08:57:05 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"L2ohE.0.AV6.MEuNp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/511 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: d839039253c1e8b3c021e050476b0951 Kim, It is possible than Vincent Braswell was a son of Aaron, since he's of the right age. Census records can be wrong about birth dates, so I wouldn't rule it out if the ages aren't an exact match. I've been abstracting some Warren Co., TN plat records (see my brand new web page at htttp://www.backporch.com and I have the following Lusk names in the index of the first book: James, J.D., John D., Samuel, Thomas, and William. Could any of these be your Lisk family? In the first plat book the only Braswells I found were Sampson and William (I'm working on Vol. 2 now). Sampson Braswell and Aaron Braswell were brothers-in-law, and I'm still trying to determine if they were related in other ways. I know who the parents of Sampson were, but I haven't located the parents of Aaron yet. -Nona ---------- From: Kim Tribble To: rof@backporch.com Subject: Aaron BRASWELL Date: Sunday, April 20, 1997 8:15 PM Nona, Hi . . . I have made some progress on my tree, and was looking through old e-mail hoping to make a connection. I was wondering about Aaron BRASWELL and Nancy WILLIAMS. My great-grandfather, Samuel H. BRASWELL was the son of Vincent BRASWELL and Lucinda LISK. I found them in 1850 Census of Robertson County, Tennessee then in the 1860 & 1870 Census they were in Hopkins County, Kentucky. Vincent was killed in 1864 in the war. Vincent was born in 1827 in Warren County (?), Tennessee. I was wondering could Vincent be a son of Aaron and Nancy? (1830 Census of Warren County, Tennessee) The only other possibility I found might be Jacob BRASWELL in Henderson County, Tennessee? I also found that Vincent was living with the LISK family in 1850, maybe his family had moved away? (Vincent later married the Lisk's oldest daughter Lucinda.) Any help will be greatly appreciated . . . Kim A. Tribble Waco, Texas Fax: 817-412-1416 http://www.hot1.net/ktrib From ???@??? Thu Apr 24 18:31:28 1997 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA21700 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:27:47 -0500 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA04323; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 19:27:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 19:27:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970424192617_775974283@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: gayleell@cdsnet.net cc: braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com Subject: Re: William Bonsil in Wilkes County, NC X-UIDL: ba6a873a69594ac454362f985189ecd7 Dear Cousin Gayle, Please excuse my delay in answering your messages...I've been very busy every spare moment at my Hill Country farm on some projects that simply can't wait. I'm way behind on all my correspondence...... No, I do not believe this guy is a Braswell.Neither is the WILLIAM BUSSEL who bought 2.2.3 worth of stuff from the estate of JAMES ENDSLEY of Surry Co., 1777. Thank you for the copy of Endsley's Inventory, but we cannot turn this Bussel into a Braswell. The handwriting unequivocably says BUSSEL. I will answer all your letters when I can set aside time to do them justice: I have a real "thing" about polite correspondence, especially always answering people's questions. E-mail is a wonderful convenience after "snail mail" but I regret that some people take these exchanges too casually, in my view, as evidenced by a carelessness in not responding to questions. Naturally I don't mean you or any of the other important Braswell researchers on this site...... CAREY From ???@??? Tue Apr 29 00:48:43 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (qmailr@genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA20562 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 00:48:47 -0500 Received: (qmail 31793 invoked by uid 531); 29 Apr 1997 05:48:19 -0000 Resent-Date: 29 Apr 1997 05:48:19 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970429004803.007a25f0@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 00:48:03 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: Braswell Guestbook Entry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"IM9D3.0.bm7.YkOPp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/512 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: cba20200c710d5e35f8df57c749f291d Greetings everyone! I have been busy and it appears that all of you have too... Here is a posting to my guestbook that some of you might be interested in... Later, Keith ---------- Original Message Starts Here. ---------- Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 18:05:45 -0500 To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Braswell Guestbook Entry JOHN L. BRASWELL signed the Guestbook on 04/28/97. mailto:braswell@bootheel.net Webpage : http://www.bootheel.net JOHN L. BRASWELL Comments: SON OF JOHN ORLANDO BRASWELL,GRNDSON OF R.T.R. (YES-3 INITIALS) BRASWELL, GREAT-GRANDSON OF DR.JOHN CROCKETT BRASWELL OF HENRY COUNTY,TENNESSE(FIRST MEDICAL DR. IN THAT CO.),GREAT-GREAT GRANDSON OF DR. JACOB AND PARTHENIA COTTON BRASWELL,JR. DR.JACOB BRASWELL WAS BORN ON 12-06-1795 IN EDGECOMB COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA'DR, JACIB BRASWELL,SR. BORN 03-03-1763AND DIED 07-25-1837 IN EDGECOMB COUNTY, N.C.--WAS REVOLUTIONARYWAR VETERANWHO SERVED IN N.C. MILITIAAND FOUGHT IN BRIER CREEK, GUILFORD COURTHOUSE, NEAR CAMDEN. THAT'S ALL FOR NOW...BUSY...JLB http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/guestbook.html ---------- Original Message Ends Here. ---------- David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Tue Apr 29 08:05:14 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (qmailr@genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA01702 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 08:04:35 -0500 Received: (qmail 18396 invoked by uid 531); 29 Apr 1997 13:04:24 -0000 Resent-Date: 29 Apr 1997 13:04:24 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970429080403.007a53e0@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 08:04:03 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: Braswell Guestbook Entry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"36ljf3.0.MV4.N7VPp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/513 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 0b1ce2195395a88521b5505c5ddf4f03 Here is another guestbook entry... ---------- Original Message Starts Here. ---------- Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 01:19:10 -0500 From: From Webmaster To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Braswell Guestbook Entry X-UIDL: 4cf4e7b947aaa06f8e98c823c63a0270 Debbie Clinton signed the Guestbook on 04/29/97. mailto:dclinton@westok.net Debbie Clinton Comments: This is my first e-mail, so I need a lot of help and suggestions. I am a descendant of Rev. Bracewell, or Braswell of Virginia. Once I get more comfortable with this e-mail stuff, I will perhaps be able to add my tree. All help will be appreciated. Thanks. http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/guestbook.html ---------- Original Message Ends Here. ---------- David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Wed Apr 30 17:39:36 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA15347 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 17:04:41 -0500 Received: (qmail 11046 invoked by uid 531); 30 Apr 1997 22:04:35 -0000 Resent-Date: 30 Apr 1997 22:04:35 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 18:03:50 -0400 (EDT) From: BecCarr@aol.com Message-ID: <970430180234_2016915324@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: Braswell Resent-Message-ID: <"5umSO.0.Li2.o7yPp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/514 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: f1b2d61f587dece8824ce2f914f8910e My name is Becky Carr, 19128 Peninsula Point Dr., Cornelius, N. C. 28031. I'm researching David M. Braswell, born 7-25-1820, Edgecombe County, N.C., died 12-22-1882 in Coffee or Covington County, Al. Wife Penelope. Son William Washington Braswell, born 810-1843, died 9-13-1883 in Elba, Al. Wife Gertrude Reynolds (Trudie) born 1-7-1850 in stewart County, Ga., died 1-16-1936 in Elba, Al. Thanks Becky From ???@??? Thu May 01 09:56:40 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA22230 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 04:49:02 -0500 Received: (qmail 31441 invoked by uid 531); 1 May 1997 09:49:05 -0000 Resent-Date: 1 May 1997 09:49:05 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:13:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BRASWHIT@aol.com Message-ID: <970430221202_-165279720@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@emcee.com Subject: Re: Braswell Resent-Message-ID: <"6OqfA2.0.Ch7.GS6Qp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/515 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 177ba34f315b42deb04850921f218790 Becky, I am some info on that line if you would like I can give it to you, also there is another relative of yours, she lives in Coden, Al her name is Evelyn Gassler, her email address is Genny000aol.com, I would be glad to share what I have on this line with you, I can email my file to you, you will be able to view it if you have the soft ware for family tree maker. Earl Braswell From ???@??? Mon May 05 09:11:32 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA04560 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:04:58 -0500 Received: (qmail 19528 invoked by uid 531); 5 May 1997 14:04:51 -0000 Resent-Date: 5 May 1997 14:04:51 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970505100638.097f8196@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: lbarron@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: braswell-l@genealogy.org From: Lucy Barron Subject: Kim Tribble are you out there Resent-Message-ID: <"ELlW62.0.zm4.2aURp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/518 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: c60c656856bb98d15689e57001edca4e Braswell subscribers, Please bear with me. I can't get the Mailer-Daemon to send this personally to Kim on her Vincent BRASWELL. So I'm sending it out to the list. Lucy Barron Lexington, MA > >Return-Path: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu >Received: from smtp.fas.harvard.edu ([128.103.150.167]) by smtp2.fas.harvard.edu with SMTP id JAA00860; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:27:56 -0400 (EDT) >Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 09:27:56 -0400 (EDT) >Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970505092957.2d174ba8@pop.fas.harvard.edu> >X-Sender: lbarron@pop.fas.harvard.edu >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >To: "Kim Tribble" >From: Lucy Barron >Subject: Re: Aaron BRASWELL > >Kim, > >I'm glad to see that your netnode is working again. I kept trying to >respond to it all week and it kept bouncing back as undeliverable. I'll >resend my original and just let you know that I did get a chance to look at >my records and still am not any clearer as to who your Vincent was. My >records show that Aaron and family moved to Madison Co., MO by 1852, but I >don't know all their children. Not to muddy the waters, but there was a >Samuel BRASWELL in Rutherford Co., TN (although he may actually be part of >the BREAZEALE clan). Perhaps he had a son Vincent. I definitely think it >might be worthwhile to at least try to prove he is NOT your ancestor, if you >haven't already done this. > >Since he died so early, how were you able to find out that Vincent was b. in >Warren Co.? Could this be in error? > >Happy Hunting, and I'll keep my eyes open for a Vincent. > >Lucy Barron >Lexington, MA > > >At 09:09 PM 5/3/97 -0500, you wrote: >>Lucy, >> I was looking through some old e-mail, and came across a message you had >>sent to the Braswell List about Aaron BRASWELL. >> I am still looking for the parents of Vincent BRASWELLL b. 1827 in Warren >>County, Tennessee. I found him in the 1850 TN census living with H.D. Sisk >>and family (Vincent married the Sisk's oldest daughter, Lucinda). In 1860 >>he is in Hopkin's County, Kentucky. (Vincent was killed in 1861 while >>serving in the war.) >> Vincent's son Samuel H. (my great-grandfather) next appears in 1880 in Red >>River County, Texas with his first wife S.E. and three children (all born >>in Kentucky). In 1900 he is back in Lamar County, Texas with a new wife, >>Angeline and a different set of children, on of which was my grandfather >>Walter Millard, who was born in Missouri. Samuel's brother Elisha H. was >>also in Texas, and he had some children who were also born in Missouri. I >>haven't been able to track them down in Missouri. >> My mother said that her father was born in Joplin, Jasper County, >>Missouri, but when I wrote there, they had no records. >> Do you have any info that might help. I'm stuck here . . . >> >>Thanks, >> >>Kim A. Tribble >>Waco, Texas >>Fax: 817-412-1416 >> >>http://www.hot1.net/ktrib >> >> >> >> >>

face="Baskerville MT">Lucy,
I was looking through some old e-mail, >and came across a message you had sent to the Braswell List about Aaron >BRASWELL.
I am still looking for the parents of Vincent BRASWELLL >b. 1827 in Warren County, Tennessee.  I found him in the 1850 TN census >living with H.D. Sisk and family (Vincent married the Sisk's oldest >daughter, Lucinda).  In 1860 he is in Hopkin's County, Kentucky. >(Vincent was killed in 1861 while serving in the war.) >   
Vincent's son Samuel H. (my great-grandfather) >next appears in 1880 in Red River County, Texas with his first wife S.E. and >three children (all born in Kentucky).  In 1900 he is back in Lamar >County, Texas with a new wife, Angeline and a different set of children, on >of which was my grandfather Walter Millard, who was born in Missouri. > Samuel's brother Elisha H. was also in Texas, and he had some children >who were also born in Missouri.  I haven't been able to track them down >in Missouri.  
My mother said that her father was born in >Joplin, Jasper County, Missouri, but when I wrote there, they had no >records.  
Do you have any info that might help.  I'm >stuck here . . .

Thanks,

>>


face="DCWri">Kim A. Tribble
Waco, >Texas
Fax: 817-412-1416

color="#0000FF">http://www.hot1.net/ktrib >

>>





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> >Lucy Barron (617) 495-2446 >Senior Serial Cataloger e-mail: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu >Widener Library, Rm. 87 >Harvard University >Cambridge, MA 02138 > > > Lucy Barron (617) 495-2446 Senior Serial Cataloger e-mail: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu Widener Library, Rm. 87 Harvard University Cambridge, MA 02138 From ???@??? Mon May 05 09:11:34 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA04695 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:07:17 -0500 Received: (qmail 20098 invoked by uid 531); 5 May 1997 14:07:15 -0000 Resent-Date: 5 May 1997 14:07:15 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970505100900.097ff6b2@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: lbarron@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: braswell-l@genealogy.org From: Lucy Barron Subject: Kim Tribble are you out there (Part II) Resent-Message-ID: <"00Lry1.0.xv4.IcURp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/519 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: a0741ab0da4936e8c2e204b26155952a Part 2 of my previous message. Lucy Barron Lexington, MA > >Return-Path: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu >Received: from smtp.fas.harvard.edu ([128.103.150.167]) by smtp2.fas.harvard.edu with SMTP id JAA02453; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:28:17 -0400 (EDT) >Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 09:28:17 -0400 (EDT) >Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970505093014.2d17445c@pop.fas.harvard.edu> >X-Sender: lbarron@pop.fas.harvard.edu >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >To: "Kim Tribble" >From: Lucy Barron >Subject: Re: Aaron BRASWELL > >Hi Kim, > >I will look through my genealogy database at home to see if I have info. on >Aaron entered into it. I knew at one time where in Missouri they went, but >can not remember now as it has been awhile since I've worked on him. I've >seen somewhere where he's "supposed" to be a son of Jacob, who was son of >William, who moved from Nash Co., NC to another NC county (before his father >died, can't remember which one. This is terrible to be so vague, I'll get >back to you.), but I've found no proof and I definitely think its needed here. > >A word of caution. Never believe courthouse clerks. Some are great, most >are disinterested at best. And all must rely on poorly indexed (if at all) >resources. I'm afraid the only answer is hours of pouring over microfilm >from the LDS library at your local Family History Center (yuck). If you >think yours were from Joplin, I'd check and doublecheck census (first) and >land (etc.) records before giving up. Have you been to the Dallas Public >Library? Its pretty good and not as far as the State Library in Austin. > >I don't know all of Aaron's children and will see if a Vincent is listed. I >have seen another posting of yours in which you say the wife's name was Lisk >rather than Sisk. I haven't heard of either surname, although that doesn't >mean anything (have heard of Lusk). It took me a long time to find my >LARGENTs in Burke Co., NC because the Census Indexer had misread the name as >SARGENT. There was a Samuel who lived in Rutherford Co., TN. Most of my >BRASWELL stuff is packed in the basement in an area I can't get to at the >moment due to my being 8 months pregnant and very awkward to say the least. > >This is a very good list. STAY ON IT. If I can't help you, eventually >someone may. I had been looking for the father of my Robert BRASWELL of >Smith Co., TN for nearly 20 years. I had thought him to be closely related >to the DeKalb Co. BRASWELLs, Sampson and William, or Aaron who was in Warren >Co. early. I wrote to Carey BRACEWELL and he solved it in a day. Turns >out, his theory is that my Robert was son of John and Rebecca PRUITT >BRASWELL. They were all over middle Tennessee, White Co. and Jackson Co. >mostly, but not Dekalb. I had completely ignored BRASWELLs from these >counties, boy did I learn a big lesson here in failing to look at ALL >neighboring counties. It turns out that this John had about 12 children, >all of whom scattered. I hope your Vincent is not so illusive. > >BTW, I'm from Austin, TX originally and my father hails from just up the >road from you--Corsicana, his father still lives there. And I have a cousin >who works at Baylor. My mother's maiden name was BRASWELL (pronounced by >her as BRAS-uhl, before she got e-ji-cated. 8-) ) and her people came to >Collin Co. (towns of Blue Ridge and Melissa) around 1908 from Smith Co., TN >to join other BRASWELL kin who'd migrated there from Dekalb Co., TN around >the 1880s. (This is where I got off the track. My BRASWELL line >intermarried with the Dekalb line around the 1890s and weren't closely >related to the Dekalb line, but the BRASWELL whom my BRASWELL married was.) > >Well, I'd better get to work before I get totally confused. > >Lucy Barron >Lexington, MA > > >At 09:40 PM 4/28/97 -0500, you wrote: >>Lucy, >> I was looking through some old e-mail, and came across a message you had >>sent to the Braswell List about Aaron BRASWELL. >> I am still looking for the parents of Vincent BRASWELLL b. 1827 in Warren >>County, Tennessee. I found him in the 1850 TN census living with H.D. Sisk >>and family (Vincent married the Sisk's oldest daughter, Lucinda). In 1860 >>he is in Hopkin's County, Kentucky. (Vincent was killed in 1861 while >>serving in the war.) >> Vincent's son Samuel H. (my great-grandfather) next appears in 1880 in Red >>River County, Texas with his first wife S.E. and three children (all born >>in Kentucky). In 1900 he is back in Lamar County, Texas with a new wife, >>Angeline and a different set of children, on of which was my grandfather >>Walter Millard, who was born in Missouri. Samuel's brother Elisha H. was >>also in Texas, and he had some children who were also born in Missouri. I >>haven't been able to track them down in Missouri. >> My mother said that her father was born in Joplin, Jasper County, >>Missouri, but when I wrote there, they had no records. >> Do you have any info that might help. I'm stuck here . . . >> >>Thanks, >> >>Kim A. Tribble >>Waco, Texas >>Fax: 817-412-1416 >> >>http://www.hot1.net/ktrib >> >> >>

face="Baskerville MT">Lucy,
I was looking through some old e-mail, >and came across a message you had sent to the Braswell List about Aaron >BRASWELL.
I am still looking for the parents of Vincent BRASWELLL >b. 1827 in Warren County, Tennessee.  I found him in the 1850 TN census >living with H.D. Sisk and family (Vincent married the Sisk's oldest >daughter, Lucinda).  In 1860 he is in Hopkin's County, Kentucky. >(Vincent was killed in 1861 while serving in the war.) >   
Vincent's son Samuel H. (my great-grandfather) >next appears in 1880 in Red River County, Texas with his first wife S.E. and >three children (all born in Kentucky).  In 1900 he is back in Lamar >County, Texas with a new wife, Angeline and a different set of children, on >of which was my grandfather Walter Millard, who was born in Missouri. > Samuel's brother Elisha H. was also in Texas, and he had some children >who were also born in Missouri.  I haven't been able to track them down >in Missouri.  
My mother said that her father was born in >Joplin, Jasper County, Missouri, but when I wrote there, they had no >records.  
Do you have any info that might help.  I'm >stuck here . . .

Thanks,

>>


face="DCWri">Kim A. Tribble
Waco, >Texas
Fax: 817-412-1416

color="#0000FF">http://www.hot1.net/ktrib >

>>



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> >Lucy Barron (617) 495-2446 >Senior Serial Cataloger e-mail: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu >Widener Library, Rm. 87 >Harvard University >Cambridge, MA 02138 > > > Lucy Barron (617) 495-2446 Senior Serial Cataloger e-mail: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu Widener Library, Rm. 87 Harvard University Cambridge, MA 02138 From ???@??? Tue May 06 07:52:48 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA15367 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:39:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 5454 invoked by uid 531); 6 May 1997 05:32:08 -0000 Resent-Date: 6 May 1997 05:32:08 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970506003213.007ab7d0@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 00:32:13 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: Braswell Guestbook Entry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"rZyR31.0.6L1.N9iRp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/520 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 95ace7df36adfde46d2fd65be9b428ff ---------- Original Message Starts Here. ---------- Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:23:48 -0500 To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Braswell Guestbook Entry Bill G. Braswell, Jr. signed the Guestbook on 05/05/97. mailto:bgbraswell@interlink-cafe.com City : Wingate, NC 28174 Bill G. Braswell, Jr. Comments: I'm a descendant of Richard Bracewell (1530-1561) of England. I'm curious if anyone knows why the Bracewell's left England. http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/guestbook.html ---------- Original Message Ends Here. ---------- David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Tue May 06 11:26:10 1997 Received: from smtp3.fas.harvard.edu (root@smtp3.fas.harvard.edu [140.247.30.83]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA27708 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:52:53 -0500 Received: from smtp.fas.harvard.edu ([128.103.150.167]) by smtp3.fas.harvard.edu with SMTP id JAA30962; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:52:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 09:52:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970506095448.4107bc7a@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: lbarron@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Keith Braswell From: Lucy Barron Subject: Why did Rich. BRASWELL immigrate? X-UIDL: 9cd0d5f5ba81090c901e657be4a499cd Well, I'm not sure if anyone knows at this late date unless a diary can be found. But I can hazard a couple of guesses that might not be too far off: 1) Since he went to Oxford and then into the clergy, I think it can be assumed he was from a pretty well-to-do family, but not the ever-important first born son. That generally left two options for non-first born children of well to do families--the clergy or the military (unless they could land themselves a rich heiress). Once here, our BRASWELL ancestor accumulated quite a nice bit of land. 2) The need for clergy in the New World would also assure him of a job. This I'd say, he immigrated purely for economic and social reasons. Anyone else have any thoughts on this matter? Lucy Barron Lexington, MA At 12:32 AM 5/6/97 -0500, you wrote: >---------- Original Message Starts Here. ---------- >Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:23:48 -0500 >To: braswell@pbmo.net >Subject: Braswell Guestbook Entry > >Bill G. Braswell, Jr. signed the Guestbook on 05/05/97. > >mailto:bgbraswell@interlink-cafe.com > >City : Wingate, NC 28174 > > >Bill G. Braswell, Jr. Comments: > >I'm a descendant of Richard Bracewell (1530-1561) of England. I'm curious >if anyone knows why the Bracewell's left England. > > >http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/guestbook.html > > >---------- Original Message Ends Here. ---------- > > David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 > 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ > Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net > > Lucy Barron (617) 495-2446 Senior Serial Cataloger e-mail: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu Widener Library, Rm. 87 Harvard University Cambridge, MA 02138 From ???@??? Tue May 06 20:16:56 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA12190 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 20:14:11 -0500 Received: (qmail 28025 invoked by uid 531); 7 May 1997 01:14:08 -0000 Resent-Date: 7 May 1997 01:14:08 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 21:13:20 -0400 (EDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970506205303_-365987484@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@emcee.com Subject: Re: Braswell Guestbook Entry Resent-Message-ID: <"NkaQX2.0.gr6.UTzRp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/521 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: d79e4956d03830381e30f9919099b0e3 Dear Cousin Bill, Welcome! I am intrigued by your enigmatic note: you descend from RICHARD BRACEWELL (c.1530-c.1561)-----of Grantham Parish, Lincoln, I presume? Therefore of Rev. ROBERT BRACEWELL (1611-1668) of London & Isle of Wight County, Virginia? In that case, the answer to your question about immigration motivation is simple: Rev. ROBERT was an Anglican vicar and graduate of Oxford University, then as now a Loyalist center. The unconscionable act of beheading Charles I in 1649 by Cromwell's Parliament {and the strong likelihood that ROBERT lost his sinecure about the same time Charles lost his head} was doubtless motivation enough for our ancestor to undertake the perilous voyage to still-Loyalist Virginia Colony. N.B. that his first extant American record dates from April, 1650. {If I sound like a "pompous ass", Bill, please excuse; I'm an ex-professor and I just talk this way. } Carey Bracewell From ???@??? Tue May 06 20:22:57 1997 Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.97]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA13822 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 20:20:06 -0500 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA17398; Tue, 6 May 1997 21:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 21:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970506211526_1719421165@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: Lbarron@fas.harvard.edu cc: braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com, gayleell@cdsnet.net Subject: Hello, Braswell cousin! X-UIDL: cc34abab86049de40348de14e1466f81 Dear Cousin Lucy, Thanks for the cc of your good reply to Cousin Kim in Waco and the nice remarks about our genealogical association..... Naturally I'm all ears about your latest finds on the JOHN BRASWELL connection..... I havn't lost interest lately, but have been seduced by a new one, a new John Deere tractor, actually: I believe I told you about my place in the Hill Country--75 acres. Well it's now being reduced to 50 acres {more like what I can personally manage!} by virtue of sale of two tracts to two friends, other couples. We are setting up a retirement/survival/intentional spritual community type corporation. The new tractor is one of the first fruits of that and I'm lovin' it! {A little boy/guy thing, you understand. } As soon as I'm back on genealogy more deligently, one of the first things I'm going to do is contact your Dad. Already have a local cousin promising to share the Family Tree software.....I'll bet your Dad has some useful pointers..... Counting the days, eh? These are the longest, I remember. Best of luck with the eminent new addition! Carey From ???@??? Tue May 06 20:41:01 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA18890 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 20:39:47 -0500 Received: (qmail 32573 invoked by uid 531); 7 May 1997 01:39:45 -0000 Resent-Date: 7 May 1997 01:39:45 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970506203959.007abd00@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 20:39:59 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: Braswell Guestbook Entry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"vRbH53.0.ny7.WrzRp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/522 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 873a6461b0a66ab91cbbc22a4e86b211 ---------- Original Message Starts Here. ---------- Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 20:35:06 -0500 Subject: Braswell Guestbook Entry Mary E NANCE MORGAN signed the Guestbook on 05/06/97. mailto:MMORGANTN@worldnet.att.net City : Nashville TN 37217-0981 Mary E NANCE MORGAN Comments: I am a descendant of Robert Braswell born 1611 London, England, died 1 May 1668, Isle of Wight, VA. Rebecca Braswell born about 1647, Isle of Wight, VA married William WEST. http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/guestbook.html ---------- Original Message Ends Here. ---------- David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Wed May 07 10:19:50 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA17721 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:28:50 -0500 Received: (qmail 29507 invoked by uid 531); 7 May 1997 13:28:38 -0000 Resent-Date: 7 May 1997 13:28:38 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 09:28:00 -0400 (EDT) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970507092654_610859141@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: CBracewell@aol.com cc: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Re: SSDI Resent-Message-ID: <"GAW9m1.0.zC7.5E8Sp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/523 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 28d9b35b14f3e8180e907cd77c1b8a86 Cousin Carey, I just doubled checked SSDI and their home page seems to have changed but it works. My URL says: http://206.27.137.18/ssdi Then click on "Detective Agency." The program is very name sensitive. For MELVIN THOMAS BOYD, use MELVIN BOYD. The first name only, works, not M. THOMAS, THOMAS, or TOM in most cases. I tried that and got 51 hits. It may or may not show a location. Sometimes the location is where the SS card was issued and sometimes it may be where he was living when he died. There are several possibilities in the 51 hits. There is also a government operated SSDI database but I don't remember the address off-hand. It could be ftp://ftp.census.gov - but you would have to dig deeper. That base allows simple searches only (name). I guess I should publish my list of favorite genealogy sites on the web as I have quite a few. I saw on CNN today about access to SS on the net being suspended for 60 days but you can still find out info by mail. Evidentally, the database above is a private venture. According to my sources, William Barjonah Braswell chose or was nicknamed "Jonas" (not Jonah) to distinguish himself from all the other Williams in NC. I have several leads as to his parents (including yours) but haven't devoted enough time to it yet. It was good to see you on the net again. I was beginning to think that genealogy was a summer time sport. My 80 year old first cousin from NY is visiting me and we just got back from visiting 3 more first cousins in Branson, MO. They are in their late 80's. Now I have quite a few anecdotes and facts to add to our family history. They were delighted to hear about "Polly's Folly" and horrified that a Braswell shot Sheriff Pat Garrett. Also we identified more of the old photos I inherited when my last aunt died. Identified were pictures of my father as a boy of about 14 and my grandfather Braswell in a suit and derby. I only remembered him wearing overalls. Cousin Foy From ???@??? Wed May 07 14:42:49 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA01523 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:27:49 -0500 Received: (qmail 18541 invoked by uid 531); 7 May 1997 16:27:36 -0000 Resent-Date: 7 May 1997 16:27:36 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <199705071616.JAA15119@ico.com> From: "Nona Williams" To: Cc: "Braswell Mailing List" , "Carey Bracewell" Subject: Genealogy web sites Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 09:11:37 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"110Ai1.0.YX4.trASp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/524 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 9a4d67792b3268319daf007a50857440 Foy, I'm working on a web site which will include my entire lineage with footnotes (I hope - the task seems monumental). Anyhow, by this weekend I hope to have the information about my Williams lines ready to upload and then I want to add the Braswells the following weekend. Anyhow, the reason I'm contacting you right now is to ask if you'd let me use your list of favorite genealogy web sites. I would like to post them on my new web site for others to use. I've been silent lately because I was working on the newsletter which should go out today or tomorrow (I need to get stamps and stick them on). Eventually on my new web site I would like to link all Braswells known & proved to be related to my line in such a way that people can follow the links, see the relationships and read the footnotes which will provide source documentation. This is not intended as competition to Keith's site. Mine will include all my other lines as well and I don't plan to have a discussion group like Keith's. I don't have anything on the site yet so won't mention the URL at this time. I'll send it to the list when it has something on it. -Nona ---------- > From: FoyBrasw@aol.com > To: CBracewell@aol.com > Cc: Braswell-L@genealogy.org > Subject: Re: SSDI > Date: Wednesday, May 07, 1997 6:28 AM > > Cousin Carey, > > I just doubled checked SSDI and their home page seems to have changed but it > works. My URL says: http://206.27.137.18/ssdi Then click on "Detective > Agency." The program is very name sensitive. For MELVIN THOMAS BOYD, use > MELVIN BOYD. The first name only, works, not M. THOMAS, THOMAS, or TOM in > most cases. I tried that and got 51 hits. It may or may not show a > location. Sometimes the location is where the SS card was issued and > sometimes it may be where he was living when he died. There are several > possibilities in the 51 hits. > > There is also a government operated SSDI database but I don't remember the > address off-hand. It could be ftp://ftp.census.gov - but you would have to > dig deeper. That base allows simple searches only (name). I guess I should > publish my list of favorite genealogy sites on the web as I have quite a few. > I saw on CNN today about access to SS on the net being suspended for 60 days > but you can still find out info by mail. Evidentally, the database above is > a private venture. > > According to my sources, William Barjonah Braswell chose or was nicknamed > "Jonas" (not Jonah) to distinguish himself from all the other Williams in > NC. I have several leads as to his parents (including yours) but haven't > devoted enough time to it yet. > > It was good to see you on the net again. I was beginning to think that > genealogy was a summer time sport. My 80 year old first cousin from NY is > visiting me and we just got back from visiting 3 more first cousins in > Branson, MO. They are in their late 80's. Now I have quite a few anecdotes > and facts to add to our family history. They were delighted to hear about > "Polly's Folly" and horrified that a Braswell shot Sheriff Pat Garrett. Also > we identified more of the old photos I inherited when my last aunt died. > Identified were pictures of my father as a boy of about 14 and my grandfather > Braswell in a suit and derby. I only remembered him wearing overalls. > > Cousin Foy From ???@??? Wed May 07 22:34:12 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA00654 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:54:54 -0500 Received: (qmail 14189 invoked by uid 531); 7 May 1997 22:54:48 -0000 Resent-Date: 7 May 1997 22:54:48 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 18:54:07 -0400 (EDT) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970507182655_1753679375@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@emcee.com Subject: Re: Genealogy web sites MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0.17904.emout14.mail.aol.com.863044015" Resent-Message-ID: <"HStj42.0.dT3.tWGSp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/525 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 5359e5f0dbe6aefe90d3099f9ec6ddc1 Attached is my Genealogy Favorite Places. I have put it in ASCII DOS Text. Let me know if this is the best format so I can correct it for you if necessary and then put it on the Braswell net. Cousin Foy GENEALOGY FAVORITE PLACES May 8, 1997 AOL KEYWORD: Roots Genealogy Forum ftp://cac.psu.edu/genealogy Same ftp://ftp.census.gov Same ftp.cac.psu.edu:/pub/genealogy Same ftp.genealogy.org:/genealogy/GEDCOM ftp-GEDCOM-Download http://www.familytreemaker.com/newfacd.html Family Tree Maker http://www.westworld.com/~mgunn/ The Genealogy Resource Page http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/gen_int1.html Genealogy Resources on the Internet http://lcweb.loc.gov/rr/genealogy/lhggen.html Library of Congress http://www.genhomepage.com/ The Genealogy Homepage http://www.symbcon.co.uk/fhistory/index.htp Family History Research Register http://www.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/Genea/rll?USA,TN Roots Location List Entries http://www.ancestry.com/ Ancestor Search http://rro.everton.com/gedcom.html Gedcom Help http://members.tripod.com/%7Emajn/elijah MAJN Genealogy http://www.flex.net/u/golden/nc-state/nc-state.htm North Carolina Genealogy http://hal.dcr.state.nc.us/nc/cover.htm North Carolina Encyclopedia http://www.census.gov/genealogy/www/ Genealogy Bureau http://roxy.sfo.com/%7Egenealogysf/gentips.html Gen Genealogy Research Guide http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/sites.htm Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites ://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/ RootsWeb Genealogy Data Cooperative http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~cmanis/ GenServe http://www.usgenweb.com/ US Gen Web Project http://www.everton.com/ Everton's Genealogical Helper http://206.27.137.18/ssdi/ Social Security Death Index http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~hoemann/warweb.html Civil War Homepage http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~hoemann/unit5.html Civil War Units http://www.firstct.com/fv/oldhand.html Deciphering Old Handwriting http://members.aol.com/genwebindx/index.htm Genealogists Index to the Web http://www.logicnet.com/melanie.mccluskey/british.htm British Genealogical Resources http://www.genealogy.org/~ajmorris/geddex/geddex.htm Geddex http://www.gendex.com/gendex/ Gendex (Genealogy Index) http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ The Braswell FamilyFrom ???@??? Thu May 08 19:59:35 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA11835 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:21:56 -0500 Received: (qmail 31798 invoked by uid 531); 8 May 1997 16:20:11 -0000 Resent-Date: 8 May 1997 16:20:11 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; To: braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Brasuell>Braswell>Bracewell Message-ID: <19970508.095520.9271.2.rjllc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,6-31,33-39,41-45 From: rjllc@juno.com (La Vera L Caruthers) Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 12:18:46 EDT Resent-Message-ID: <"Rni2E.0.Rm7.vqVSp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/526 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 01fd307d44876ba04eb36b981304efeb Dear Braswell Family, Here is my line as I think it is. It is mostly documented through William Braswell and Elizabeth Medford. I am now working on the family of Richard Braswell and Obedience Snow (?) I was paying attention, Carey. Lela La Vera Brasuell b. 20-JUN-1940 Gorman, Eastland, TX m. Robert James Caruthers 13-JUN-1958 Midland, Midland, TX Our children are:Patricia Michele b. 26-JUN-1959 Jimmy Calvin b. 10-SEP-1962 Robert James, Jr.b. 25-FEB-1965 Joseph Grant Brasuell b.14-JUL1909 Downing, Comanche, TX m. Ruby La Vara Bowman 25-JUN-1939 De Leon, Comanche, TX Joseph d. 01-JUN-1981 in Midland, Midland, TX William Jackson Brasuell b. 04-OCT-1873 Crawford Co.(?) AR m. Alice Ann Hardin 07-JUL-1895 De Leon, Comanche, TX William d. 02-JAN-1955 De Leon, Comanche, TX Robert Brasuell b. about 1835 in Carroll Co., AR m. Sarah M. James 30-AUG-1867 Greene Co., MO Robert d. 28-DEC-1899 TX Samuel Brasuell b. 23-FEB-1811 NC or IL m. Phoebe Tabor 20-MAY-1832 Gasconade Co., MO Samuel d. 28-MAR-1896 Comanche Co., TX William Braswell b. abt. 1766 NC m. Elizabeth Medford abt. 1810 NC? TN? IL? (It is a family tradition that Elizabeth was a second wife for William and that his first wife may have been Jean) William d. abt. 1856 Carroll Co., AR Richard Braswell b. abt. 1729 Bertie Co., NC m. Obedience Snow (?) abt. 1758 (Place unknown) d. abt. 1811 Greenville Co., SC Thank you for listening and any help to fill in the blanks or question marks will be greatly appreciated. La Vera Caruthers rjllc@juno.com From ???@??? Thu May 08 19:59:39 1997 Received: from m12.boston.juno.com (m12.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.194]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA18984 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:01:14 -0500 Received: (from rjllc@juno.com) by m12.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id NOD02921; Thu, 08 May 1997 13:59:33 EDT To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Braswell List Message-ID: <19970508.113548.9319.0.rjllc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-4,7-8,10,12-14,17-21 From: rjllc@juno.com (La Vera L Caruthers) Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 13:59:33 EDT X-UIDL: 659fd68ed0d14aecef6d5dfd1bfc393e Dear Keith, I am new to the list and have just uploaded my family file to the list. I keep getting my own message back. is that because I am a subscriber to the list? If so, I apologize for sending it twice! Another thing is I downloaded the archives that are supposed to be through 27-MAR-1997 (I think) and the last one I got was dated 21-FEB-1997. Is this correct? One more thing---on your web page are some gedcoms that I also downloaded. the only one I could not get was for Michael L. Brasuell. At the end of the upload I get a message "unable to launch external viewer Error code=16. I would really like to see his gedcom since his surname is spelled the same as mine. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for this opportunity to meet other Braswell researchers. Sincerely, La Vera Caruthers rjllc@juno.com From ???@??? Sun May 11 15:52:25 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA23446 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:38:27 -0500 Received: (qmail 819 invoked by uid 531); 11 May 1997 10:38:21 -0000 Resent-Date: 11 May 1997 10:38:21 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 06:37:56 -0400 (EDT) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970511063756_2051607275@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: CBracewell@aol.com, rof@backporch.com cc: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: William Barjonah Braswell Resent-Message-ID: <"QAwHW1.0.jC.T6QTp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/531 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: e53d61aba30568a836b09173fc9b71bd I have found a clue about the parents of my 3d ggf William Barjonah "Jonas" Braswell. I just bought some CD's on sale from Family Tree Maker. The World Family Tree CD Vol. 5 contains a Tree No. 0745. This tree starts with Rev. Robert Bracewell and goes through William Barjonah Braswell and his children. The tree isn't very specific on dates but most names match up with what I know. I can correspond with FTM and find the name and address of the donor and then ask about the sources. According to this tree, the parents of Jonas is Richard Braswell/Elizabeth Bryant. The line would go like this: Rev. Robert Bracewell/Rebecca ? Richard/Sarah ? Robert/Sarah ? Richard/Elizabeth Bryant William Barjonah/? (?) Tree 0745 has Jonas' wife as Sarah Mace and I have Nancy Humphries. He could have had two (or more). I believe that the Edgecombe Co. will of Richard Braswell, 7 Dec. 1767, mentions a William. I am starting to recheck my records and previous email from the Braswell net. Any information, verification or opinions would be welcome. If anyone on the Braswell Net sent in the tree, 'fess up. Cousin Foy Braswell FoyBrasw@aol.com From ???@??? Sun May 11 15:52:27 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA03724 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:37:35 -0500 Received: (qmail 18075 invoked by uid 531); 11 May 1997 17:37:34 -0000 Resent-Date: 11 May 1997 17:37:34 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <199705111737.KAA32235@ico.com> From: "Nona Williams" To: "Braswell Mailing List" Subject: Braswells in Jamestowne Society Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 10:32:12 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"XrP0e1.0.IQ4.UFWTp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/532 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: bf668827ba6cd1c099a71f9cccc5e706 One of my subscribers has been accepted into the Jamestowne Society on the basis of Rev. Robert Braswell having been a Burgess for a short period of time. She says that in the past they've denied membership on this ancestor because Rev. Braswell wasn't a Burgess for very long, but recently they've relented and she's now proving her ancestry to him for membership. Apparently, this is a very exclusive organization, so you must have a qualifying ancestor and a member of the Jamestowne Society must sponsor your membership and you must offer convincing evidence of your link to that ancestor. I'll write more about this on my website and add a link to the Jamestowne Society's web site (see next message from me for details). Ring of Fire Enterprises, PO Box 3793, Santa Cruz, CA 95063 http://www.rof.com From ???@??? Sun May 11 15:52:28 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA04070 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:48:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 19847 invoked by uid 531); 11 May 1997 17:48:46 -0000 Resent-Date: 11 May 1997 17:48:46 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <199705111748.KAA32501@ico.com> From: "Nona Williams" To: "Braswell Mailing List" Subject: Braswell lineage on new web site Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 10:43:30 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"lkwwn1.0.1s4.zPWTp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/533 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 55f6dff28f4edd3f0780a03b5c8cb707 I've finally uploaded my genealogy (direct lines and lots of branches) to my new web site which is located at http://www.surfnetusa.com/nonasw I planned to add detailed source notes before posting this to the public, but that proved to be a very time consuming task so I decided to post it as is and update it with more source information as time permits. If you spot any errors please let me know and if your lineage links to mine, I'd be delighted to add your branch and a link to your email address and/or web site. This was my first upload and I haven't tested it extensively so please accept my apology if there are any links that don't work. I saved time by not adding links back to the main page, but please keep in mind that you can use the "back" button on your browser to go back. Soon I'll be adding links from Foy's favorite genealogy sites on the web and a link to the Jamestowne Society and any other useful information I locate. For any who share my Braswell-Williams line, I've already added extensive source notes for the Williams families. If I've made any mistakes on the Braswell lineage, please be kind, but please do inform me so I don't perpetuate any myths or mistakes. Thank you. -Nona My old email address of rof@backporch.com still works but my new email address is nonasw@surfnetusa.com and it corresponds to my new web site. Ring of Fire Enterprises, PO Box 3793, Santa Cruz, CA 95063 http://www.rof.com From ???@??? Sun May 11 22:53:28 1997 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA08425 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 19:27:10 -0500 From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA05781; Sun, 11 May 1997 20:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 20:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970511202417_-1164897091@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: FoyBrasw@aol.com cc: braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com Subject: Re: William Barjonah Braswell X-UIDL: 4d9788bc0bcbd749bb5eebc9d1bfeccc Dear Cousin Foy, I can identify with your excitement at the prospect of solving the lineage of your WILLIAM BARJONAH BRASWELL and hope that this lead pans out. The generation spacing looks right: WB would likely have been the 5th American generation from the Immigrant (counting each as 28-30 years and RICHARD & SARAH VALENTINE(?)BRACEWELL as the 1st, those born in the 1750's were, for the most part, 5th generation, exactly as given. Having checked your records, you are no doubt aware by now that RICHARD BRASWELL (Edgecombe will, 1767) did indeed have a son, WILLIAM--hopefully your WILLIAM BARJONAH. I note that your source has Rev. ROBERT married to a "REBECCA?". Let us please quash this canard once and for all! His wife's (or wives?) name is unknown, but if we were to SPECULATE about it, it would more likely have been ANN inasmuch as he had more granddaughters (legitimate and otherwise) bearing that name than any other. Fact is, we'll probably never know her name, because all the extant colonial Virginia Bracewell records have been meticulously examined without finding a hint of her identity. From earlier letters, I noted your penchant for Braswell statistics. Here's a study I did sometime near the end of the last Ice Age {but still useful, I think...} on the number of Rev. Robert's legitimate Braswell descendants in the South, per generation, up to 1790: Generation 1: c.1650.....5 (the children of the Immigrant) 2: c.1680....9 (RICHARD & SARAH VALENTINE(?)'s brood 3: c.1710....15 4: c. 1740....35 5: c. 1770....80 By 1790, and the eve of the 6th generation, the 5th generation had produced a living extended family, still centered in the Tar River Valley, of about 160 Braswells of both sexes. So you see there must have been an exponential expansion of our family between the time of the French & Indian War and the Federalist Period. Not that this solves any individual pedigree problems but it is interesting, I think, and gives some insight into our research parameters. Carey From ???@??? Tue May 13 12:39:04 1997 Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA02116 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 21:46:01 -0500 Received: from 206.250.103.121 (max9-vgd-ca-46.earthlink.net [206.250.103.121]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA02597 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <337765D4.7CA2@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 18:47:48 +0000 From: "David P. Hunt" Reply-To: scootman@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: More bracewell info Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 8526e87d76072d494474075467c03f6c Hi cousin. Pretty cool website. My grandparents did a lot of research in the 1960s and gave the following family history. They traced only the line that led to our family: First generation: Rev Robert Bracewell born in England in about 1605 (son of Richard Bracewell, gentlemen of London), educated at Oxford, came to Jamestowne area of Virginia in 1630 with sister Rebecca. He bought 300 acres from John Upton and became parson of lower parish, Isle of Wight County. Briefly served in House of Burgesses in 1653. Died in 1668. Children were: Jane Stokes (or Stokers), Rebecca West, Robert Braswell (married Susanna), Richard Braswell, Ann Bagnall. Second generation: Richard Braswell (married Sarah, will dated 1724). Children were Richard, Robert, Valentine, Jacob, Mariah Murphy, Ann Strickland, and Jane Williams. Third generation: Robert Braswell (lived in Bertie County, NC, married Sarah, died November, 1736). Children were: Robert, John, Richard, Valentine, Sarah Daughtry, Jean Braswell, Mary Braswell, William. Fourth generation: William Braswell (married Mary, died 1721). After his death, his widow married Moses Ginn. William and Mary had William Junior, Benjamin, and James. Fifth generation: William, Jr. was father to Ann Cloe Braswell who married William Hunt, my G-G-G-G-G-G grandfather. Hope this info is helpful. From ???@??? Tue May 13 20:26:08 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA28496 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:24:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 24273 invoked by uid 531); 14 May 1997 01:24:30 -0000 Resent-Date: 14 May 1997 01:24:30 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970513202452.007a8100@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:24:52 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: More bracewell info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"U1o7g3.0.Cx5.EHHUp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/535 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 63ac0c0766fad1a0b2ea912f4d4eb313 Greetings fellow List members! I have been too busy to write... Sorry! Here is a post that came my way and I am passing it on! Yours truly, Keith ---------- Original Message Starts Here. ---------- Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 18:47:48 +0000 From: "David P. Hunt" To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: More bracewell info X-UIDL: 8526e87d76072d494474075467c03f6c Hi cousin. Pretty cool website. My grandparents did a lot of research in the 1960s and gave the following family history. They traced only the line that led to our family: First generation: Rev Robert Bracewell born in England in about 1605 (son of Richard Bracewell, gentlemen of London), educated at Oxford, came to Jamestowne area of Virginia in 1630 with sister Rebecca. He bought 300 acres from John Upton and became parson of lower parish, Isle of Wight County. Briefly served in House of Burgesses in 1653. Died in 1668. Children were: Jane Stokes (or Stokers), Rebecca West, Robert Braswell (married Susanna), Richard Braswell, Ann Bagnall. Second generation: Richard Braswell (married Sarah, will dated 1724). Children were Richard, Robert, Valentine, Jacob, Mariah Murphy, Ann Strickland, and Jane Williams. Third generation: Robert Braswell (lived in Bertie County, NC, married Sarah, died November, 1736). Children were: Robert, John, Richard, Valentine, Sarah Daughtry, Jean Braswell, Mary Braswell, William. Fourth generation: William Braswell (married Mary, died 1721). After his death, his widow married Moses Ginn. William and Mary had William Junior, Benjamin, and James. Fifth generation: William, Jr. was father to Ann Cloe Braswell who married William Hunt, my G-G-G-G-G-G grandfather. Hope this info is helpful. ---------- Original Message Ends Here. ---------- David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Fri May 30 20:45:33 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA09304 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 20:42:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 24887 invoked by uid 531); 31 May 1997 01:30:29 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 May 1997 01:30:29 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970530204208.007b9a10@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 20:42:08 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Tiafind@aol.com (by way of Keith Braswell ) Subject: Re: Ann BRASWELL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"yNwRa1.0.k46.pytZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/564 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 184ca886e7da07c48e1b490ad5b42fb1 Hi, my name is Clare Magbee. Ann BRASWELL m. Matthew STRICKLAND, JR. but that is about all I know about her. I have done no research on the BRASWELL family, just trying to get back to them. I have lots of STRICKLAND information and the information on Ann is that she was the dau. of Richard and Sarah SAMPSON. Thanks for any help you can give me on Ann and her ancestors--if you want any thing on the STRICKLAND' S let me know. From ???@??? Mon May 19 09:28:23 1997 Received: from u3.farm.idt.net (root@u3.farm.idt.net [169.132.8.12]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA11974 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 08:08:14 -0500 Received: from ppp-5.ts-1.stl.idt.net (ppp-5.ts-1.stl.idt.net [207.113.77.5]) by u3.farm.idt.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA06060 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:08:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33806930.1755@mail.idt.net> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 07:52:32 -0700 From: Charles R Mercer X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Braswell Family X-URL: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/7113/mo-bo-by.htm#BR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 007b1c5ddf34abe2bf772b78fe98e73d Hi: I am also researching the Braswell family of Washington Co, MO , St Francois Co, Mo and points south. The family origin is Brunswick Co VA. The oldest Braswell in this line is Jesse Braswell. His son was Jesse Braswell and his son was Warren D. Braswell. If any of these names mean anything to you, please drop me a line and we can compare notes. Charlie From ???@??? Tue May 20 17:09:26 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA20764 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 17:08:18 -0500 Received: (qmail 921 invoked by uid 531); 20 May 1997 22:08:00 -0000 Resent-Date: 20 May 1997 22:08:00 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 18:07:22 -0400 (EDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970520180321_-1733517224@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@emcee.com Subject: Re: More bracewell info Resent-Message-ID: <"ryySO.0.JE._2YWp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/536 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 1e4ff07680e6a86344e9242ca63a1417 Dear Cousin David Hunt, In the interest of accuracy, I would point out the following errors in fact in your grandparent's account of your Braswell ancestry: Rev. ROBERT BRACEWELL was born & christened in London in 1611, not "1605". He immigrated in 1649-1650 {1st record, April, 1650}, not "1630". There is no direct evidence that he immigrated with a sister, "REBECCA." True, his association with the IZARD family goes back to England, and REBECCA IZARD, widow of his friend RICHARD IZARD had legal custody of the Rev's sons after he died, and he did name a daughter REBECCA--but none of this constitutes proof. Strong evidence, but not proof. Therefore we can only say that he MAY have been a brother to REBECCA IZARD and that they all immigrated together. The Immigrant's daughter JANE married first ROBERT STOKES, not "STOKER". The Immigrant's granddaughter who married MURPHY was named MARTHA, not "MARIAH". Two of the Immigrant's grandsons {ROBERT & WILLIAM brothers to MARTHA} are given as "Generations 3 & 4"--an interesting impossibility! Yours for accurate--and fun!--research, Carey From ???@??? Tue May 20 18:19:34 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA09165 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 18:17:27 -0500 Received: (qmail 5729 invoked by uid 531); 20 May 1997 23:16:43 -0000 Resent-Date: 20 May 1997 23:16:43 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 19:15:21 -0400 (EDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970520190600_-2101758228@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@emcee.com cc: gayleell@cdsnet.net Subject: Re: rjllc@juno.com (La Vera L Caruthers): Brasuell>Braswell>Bracewell Resent-Message-ID: <"YQL5a1.0.RP1.Q3ZWp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/537 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: a560efba6f3c95df1bbf0c8c91e90485 Dear Cousin LaVera, So nice to hear from another descendant of the illusive WILLIAM BRASWELL (c.1766-c.1856)! I have as many questions as comments, but let's start with the latter: Our RICHARD BRASWELL/BRACEWELL, Wm's dad, was born c.1723, or about 6 years earlier than our original estimate, and he married OBEDIENCE SNOW(?) about 1745, either in Edgecombe or Orange County, North Carolina {he married near the time that his father, VALENTINE BRACEWELL, removed to Orange Co.} Their oldest children--GEORGE, FREDERICK--were born before 1750. Your WILLIAM was therefore one of their youngest children. RICHARD died in Knox (Anderson)County, Tennessee, c. 1800, not "abt. 1811 Greenville Co., S.C." WILLIAM was the last of his brothers to leave Anderson County for the West (Anderson County Court Records, 1801-1809, p. 307, shows WILLIAM BRAZLE selling JOHN SUTHERLAND his 100-acre farm on Wolf Creek and Lot #39 in Burrville (Clinton) on June 10, 1807, with the notation that "Said lot was willed to WILLIAM BRAZLE"--presumably by his late father. A courthouse fire destroyed Wills & Deeds before 1900, so all we have are these county court minutes. Now to questions: Will you repeat the documentation that proves WILLIAM married ELIZABETH MEDFORD? I could probably find it in my old letters from O. Klute Braswell but asking you is simpler. The family tradition that he married, first, a JEAN is exciting news for another cousin, Gayle Braswell Ellison, who may descend from WILLIAM through this first wife. {Her BOARDVINE BRASWELL, b. 1799 in Surry Co., N.C., was evidently an orphan raised by a maternal aunt}. You give WILLIAM's death as "abt. 1856 Carroll Co.,AR". Documentation for this estimate? All I know is that he died between the 1850 & 1860 Federal census. Carey From ???@??? Thu May 22 14:49:05 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA20437 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 06:22:33 -0500 Received: (qmail 10468 invoked by uid 531); 22 May 1997 11:22:24 -0000 Resent-Date: 22 May 1997 11:22:24 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 07:21:50 -0400 (EDT) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970522072149_876300269@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Mucho Braswells Resent-Message-ID: <"K1qkk1.0.QZ2.ln2Xp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/538 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: bf328d31509d9b07fd0d53a579c29d1f Earlier, I sent a message that I had found my 3ggf William Barjonah ("Jonas") Braswell on Volume 5 CD of Family Tree Maker's World Family Tree. I emailed FTM and got the address of the submitter. I thought I would use the Buddy List in America Online to see if he had an email address with AOL. I didn't find him, but what a revelation. There were 95 Braswells on AOL. So then I got curious and looked up the other spelling variations. The program lumps some very simlar ones together like Brasel and Brasell. My results below list only the spelling variations I found. In addition to Brazil, there were 272 other cousins. Brazil/Brazill/Brasil - 250. These were mostly our Spanish cousins. Braswell - 95 Brazell - 56 Breazeale - 24 Bracewell - 21 Brazzel/Brazzell - 18 Brasel - 16 Brasel/Brassell - 15 Brazeal - 12 Braziel - 8 Brazwell - 3 Brasuell - 2 Brasswell - 1 Brasiel - 1 Other nets could be searched if they have a feature such as a Buddy List. We could possibly advertise the Braswell Family Page if there were some easy way to do it. There were 2 Bracewells in Wichita Falls, TX that I didn't know about. Carey, do you have any lost cousins? Cousin Foy My area code changes to (940) on May 25. From ???@??? Fri May 23 01:06:46 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00204 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:12:32 -0500 Received: (qmail 24802 invoked by uid 531); 22 May 1997 20:12:27 -0000 Resent-Date: 22 May 1997 20:12:27 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 16:11:47 -0400 (EDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970522160936_612549260@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@emcee.com Subject: Re: Mucho Braswells Resent-Message-ID: <"9xFGe.0.S36.gYAXp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/539 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 65f1323393a8ba08a58a074ba015b463 IDear Cousin Foy, No, all my immediate cousins are accounted for , but thanks for the listing of Bracewell Buddies on AOL. The "Brazils" whom you identify as "Spanish cousins" are probably in fact of Portuguese descent. According to the Federal immigration records, there were tons of Portuguese of that surname who immigrated in the nineteenth century, primarily to Boston. And did you know that the South American nation was named for a mythical island paradise supposed to be somewhere west of IPortugal? True story, Cuz! Also I would point out that "Breazeales" (and obvious variants such as "Brazeel" pronounced with the long e) are a separate Huguenot family. They landed in Henrico County, Virginia in the seventeenth century but seated primarily in the Charleston area. Persons interested in pursuing information should contact one of the following genealogists: Mrs. Taney Brazeal, Rt 2, Box 5, Fairhope, Alabama 36532 , Mrs. John M. Breezeel, Rt 8, Box 46, Benton, Ky 42025 Mrs. Lois D. Plotts, 403E 15th Avenue, Olympia, Washington Mrs. Taney Brazeal & Mrs. Plotts have both published on the Breazeales and would certainly be key resource persons to locate. The above addresses are old and the researchers may have moved on by now. But I would certainly urge anyone interested in this family to make the effort to locate them. Carey From ???@??? Fri May 23 01:06:47 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA20156 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 19:16:06 -0500 Received: (qmail 6596 invoked by uid 531); 23 May 1997 00:14:10 -0000 Resent-Date: 23 May 1997 00:14:10 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 20:13:21 -0400 (EDT) From: MLBrasuell@aol.com Message-ID: <970522201248_-597345813@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@emcee.com Subject: Re: Mucho Braswells Resent-Message-ID: <"bxmc43.0.uc1.H5EXp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/540 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 3f260599abba5552e69304ca3d0e6ce3 More Brasuells online: MlBrasuell@aol.com Michael OkcBlzrs@aol.com Mike hvnly Kid@aol.com Sheri el chico17@aol.com Shannon dodge213@aol.com Paul sandy bras@aol.com Sandy char Jones@aol.com Charlotte And probably others Michael From ???@??? Fri May 23 01:06:48 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA06142 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 20:17:00 -0500 Received: (qmail 14189 invoked by uid 531); 23 May 1997 01:17:00 -0000 Resent-Date: 23 May 1997 01:17:00 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 21:16:19 -0400 (EDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970522211245_285980265@emout01.mail.aol.com> To: RJLLC@worldnet.att.net cc: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Re: Braswells Resent-Message-ID: <"F941p.0.bT3.B0FXp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/541 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 7223c636ee40709567202b8a032a65d9 Dear Cousin La Vera: Thank you for the Klute.Doc file. I will have some comment on it after I've had a chance to examine it thoroughly. Klute Braswell & I collaborated on this research back in the 60's & 70's. As to the evidence that VALENTINE BRACEWELL (c.1692-c.1766) fathered our RICHARD BRACEWELL/BRAZIL (c.1723-c.1800), it is entirely circumstantial and took years of tedious research to establish. Basically it goes like this: 1. Working backward in time, I was able to place my RICHARD BRAZIL (1759-1842) in Anson County, North Carolina at the time of his marriage to JEMIMA WHITE, c. 1780. From Greenville District (SC) and Wilkes County and other records, I had established that he was a "Richard, Jr.", and Anson County records helped support that. Also, Anson records showed that Richard, Sr.'s wife was OBEDIENCE, and both unusual given names for the wives--Jemima and Obedience--were faithfully preserved and repeated down through subsequent generations {my father knew an Obedience Brazil Barker in turn-of-the-century Texas}. 2. The problem of where they lived before Anson took years to solve. First there was the blind alley of that NATHAN BRASWELL & others who turned up in Anson later in the eighteenth century. They proved to be descendants of RICHARD BRACEWELL II (Edgecombe will, 1767) by way of Johnston County. Then, by noting the associates of our RICHARD & OBEDIENCE in Anson (RANDALL CHEEK, ISAAC COOPER, but especially JOHN SHEPHERD) I was finally able to connect them with the Orange County Bracewells. The problem there was that most of the surviving Orange/Chatham records refer to the family of RICHARD's brother, HENRY BRACEWELL, but there were enough documents to show that RICHARD, Sr. was the son of VALENTINE BRACEWELL (a 1740's Granville grant refers to RICHARD BRASWELL as the son of VALENTINE). 3. Then the question arose, where did VALENTINE come from? More mystery, inasmuch as VAL never owned much property and, of course, left no will. Trying to tie him to ROBERT BRASWELL (Bertie Will, 1736) who had a son by that name proved futile. Evidently this younger VAL (s/o ROBERT) died without issue. Then I investigated the possibility that our VAL was the younger son of RICHARD I (c.1652-1725) and that proved to be the case. The evidence is thin, but enough to make the connection. The clincher is a 1744 Edgecombe deed in which VAL was living on land on Cypress Creek belonging to SAMPSON WILLIAMS. Shortly thereafter, VAL & WILLIAMS were speculating in Granville (Orange/Chatham) land. The mystery might never have been solved had it not been for the uniqueness of VALENTINE's name. As Bill Fields {my mentor in colonial Braswell research] pointed out, the only line to preserve that unique given name was VAL's own descendants. And "Valentine" persisted as a given name among his Arkansas descendants--among others--right down to this century. I will share all the circumstantial evidence that proves this line in the near future, but that gives you the gist of it. VALENTINE & JANE POPE BRACEWELL probably supplied more trans-Allegheny pioneers than any other grandson of the Immigrant. You asked about "Polly's Folly": that referrred to one POLLY BRAZZEL of Sumner County, Tennessee, who, in 1833, married some poor slob named JAMES RODGERS, refused to cohabit with him, but took off to Gallatin, Tn, where she ran up $100 in debts to Rodgers, returned home, took his only horse & saddle, and left him! Cousin Foy Braswell found this gem in G. Bramman's "Tennessee Divorce Laws, 1797-1858". It was part of a gag contest he had going a couple of months ago called "Braswell Rascal of the Month". I'm not sure who won that month--Polly or JESSE WAYNE BRAZEL, the guy who shot ex-Sheriff Pat Garrett {the man who killed Billy the Kid} in the back of the head on the road to Las Cruces (NM) March 1, 1908. Garrett was taking a leak when BRAZEL shot him! Bad form! .Foy & I got this going as a foil to anyone beginning to believe that our family were somehow above human foibles...... Carey From ???@??? Mon May 26 23:43:32 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA00241 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 16:42:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 9399 invoked by uid 531); 23 May 1997 21:14:29 -0000 Resent-Date: 23 May 1997 21:14:29 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 17:13:40 -0400 (EDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970523171340_-1130304046@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org cc: rof@backporch.com Subject: The Breazeale Family Resent-Message-ID: <"ztmSJ2.0.kI2.qYWXp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/542 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 97b87de081f0061218aaa7a7bb80306e Dear Breazeale researchers, I have a copy of Lois Plott's "Breazeale Kin" (1961) and most issues of Taney Brazeal's quarterly, "Breazeale Notes" (1965-1972) of which I was the Braswell "co-editor". I would be pleased to share these with your senior researcher (for distribution to the others) for the price of the photocopying & mailing. As I have stated more than once, these are two distinct families, similarity of spelling notwithstanding. Carey From ???@??? Mon May 26 23:43:33 1997 Received: from mpa.yosemite.net (root@[207.213.179.129]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA07596 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 19:49:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from McLean (r22.yosemite.net [207.213.178.7]) by mpa.yosemite.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA12922 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 17:46:26 -0700 Message-ID: <33863ADB.6FB0@yosemite.net> Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 17:48:27 -0700 From: George McLean Reply-To: mclean@yosemite.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Guestbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 13b43008f2702e33df0721b142c17424 I tried to leave an entry on your guestbook but it wouldn't go through. Itried to reload and refresh but no luck. My name is Jill Katie Braswell. I live in Mariposa California. (P.O. Box 444,Mariposa Ca 95338) I am interested in my grandfather's side of the family, especially his mother's. He was born in Dawsonville Georgia November 25 1922. Ijust started to do research on this and could use any help that anyone can give.I am particularly interested in the Cherokee Indian ties to the family because I live in an Area with a very strong Indian presence. (Miwok and Mono Indians. My email is for an uncle but he will give me any info that might come from this. Could you pass this along or place my plea in your guestbook? I really did try to sign it. Thanks for any help. Jill Katie Braswell From ???@??? Mon May 26 23:43:45 1997 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA07216 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 16:51:47 -0500 (CDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id RAA27801; Mon, 26 May 1997 17:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 17:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970526175106_1291180841@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: rof@backporch.com cc: gayleell@cdsnet.net, braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Website corrections X-UIDL: bc8a5a7c6e807ec4b770a58fbf351524 Dear Cousin Nona, Since I'm sidelined from farming today due to a minor shoulder injury, this looks like a good time to point out some needed corrections to the Braswelliana portion of your new website data, as per your request. Due to the slowness of the net with today's holiday traffic, I didn't have the patience to go through the references, but I did find a number of needed corrections in the text. One footnote I did manage to read,however (#149) should be cleansed of any reference to troubles in Scotland as the cause of Bracewell migration south: Bracewell Manor is 5 miles from the Scottish border in York, true enough, but the Bracewells were dispossessed of their estate by the Norman family, Le Tempest, following the Norman Conquest of l066. Another minor English note is that our immigrant ancestor, Rev. ROBERT, was definitely born in 1611, not "about 1612" as reported. Many more problems were noted with information about doings on this side of the Atlantic. At Item 19 it is stated that ROBERT, Jr. died "after 1701/2". Fact is, we only know that he lived until March 27, 1696, when he gave SUSANNAH his power of attorney. Item 21, the children of RICHARD & SARAH VALENTINE(?)BRACEWELL needs complete revision, based on extant data showing when each of these kids came of age and started signing legal documents. The best estimate places their birth order & dates as: RICHARD, Jr. c.1672 ROBERT c.1674 WILLIAM c.1676 MARTHA c.1678 ANN c.1682 JACOB c.1684 JANE c.1686 JOHN c.1688 VALENTINE c.1692 {I had earlier concluded that JOHN was the "baby of the family" but it looks more like VAL deserves that honor; he certainly acted the part!} Item 25. JANE married SAMUEL WILLIAMS, Jr. Documented, of course. . . Item 26. ANN married MATTHEW STRICKLAND, Jr. VALENTINE married JANE POPE about 1712 and died in Orange County about 1766. Items 33-39, the alleged children of ROBERT BRACEWELL, Jr. should all be deleted. None of these--with the possible exception of ANN BRACEWELL RIGGS, were legitimate. Item 29. RICHARD, Jr. married an ELEANOR, true enough, but the consensus among Eastern genealogists is that it was his son, RICHARD III, who married a BRYANT, accounting for the close BRACEWELL/BRYANT interaction in the Tar Valley (Bertie/Edgecombe) records in this line. Item 31. We know of only two marriages by JOHN, not three: the first to an ALICE and the second, about 1740, to the widow, Mrs. JANE LEWIS. Item 32. WILLIAM BRACEWELL I definitely died in 1720, not 1721. Item 43. Please delete all this until we get it straightened out! My RICHARD (c.1723-c.1800) was the son of VALENTINE & JANE POPE BRACEWELL. He was born in Bertie Precinct and died in Anderson County, Tennessee. He married OBEDIENCE SNOW(?) before 1750, evidently about the time his family moved from Cypress Creek, Edgecombe {when YOUR SAMPSON WILLIAMS sold their farm out from under them! } in 1744. The identity, birth order, and birth years of R&O's children is still being worked out between Gayle and myself, but these are their known issue: GEORGE c.1750 FREDERICK c. 1752 ELIZABETH c.1757 RICHARD,Jr. 1759 JAMES c.1761 OBEDIENCE 1763 VALENTINE 1765 WILLIAM 1766 JOHN c.1770 PATIENCE & SARAH, unknown birthdates, but PATIENCE "PATTY" was definitely among the younger ones since she did not marry until 1798, after the family moved to Knox (Anderson) County, Tennessee. This JOHN may in fact have been a grandson by a deceased son as yet unidentified. Patty could have a been a granddaughter as well. What a mess! All we have to go on are the scantiest of records in the Carolinas and the Smith Bible (1885) which scrambles JOHN's family together with R&O's! Item 46. JAMES married NANCY MAXWELL, not HALL, as earlier reported. Your information looks reliable after the third American generation. Perhaps the best course on the others would be to wait until I have filled out my Family Tree Maker {complete with specific documentation}, shared it with you, and then revise the webpage accordingly. I tried to forward everyone on Keith's page two enormous files (styled Documents 13-44} but evidently it didn't go. They were my Carolina & later materials that would have been useful to everyone. The data was originally on 5" floppies which Cousin Rich Ellis kindly transferred to 2.25" disc. I will send you a copy if there is no other way because this stuff needs to be shared, especially with the other descendants of VALENTINE (c.1692-c.1766). The frustrating thing is that I havn't so far located the floppy with Documents 1-12 which are the Isle of Wight originals, full text of wills, inventories, etc. I had a meditation student of mine copy this stuff years ago in lieu of tuition. These are long, tedious documents that are to be included in my own Braswell book--should I ever get around to writing it! As you know, the research never really ends! Carey From ???@??? Wed May 28 00:21:23 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA10295 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:25:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 27335 invoked by uid 531); 28 May 1997 00:56:27 -0000 Resent-Date: 28 May 1997 00:56:27 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-ID: <33874AEE.3E3D@telapex.com> Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 15:09:18 -0500 From: edhall@telapex.com (ED HALL) Reply-To: edhall@telapex.com Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: edhall@telapex.com CC: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: BRASWELL Native American Roots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"307d72.0.Zg6.vAuYp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/545 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 053a22358c3e3a96d77c58bbc89ece34 Saw this and thought it might be interesting for the list. FOrgot to include it in may last post! Getting senile! Pam Hall edhall@telapex.com CARTER / DEMILLE / BRASWELL / TABOR My great-grandmother, Mary Emeline Carter De Mille, always told her grandchildren that she was part Cherokee. She was born in Arkansas to Mary Catherine Braswell and Fernando Jeremiah Carter. Since Carter was from Vermont, I assume the Cherokee comes through her mother. Maryn Catherine's mother, Mary Tabor, was married to Simon Braswell. She was one of three or four Tabor sisters who married Braswell brothers. The Braswell and Tabor families started out in North Carolina, went to Tennesse, Illinois, and all ended up in Carroll County, Arkansas. Mary Carter was born in 1869 and died in 1935. I don't know if she ever applied to any rolls. Thanks for any more help! Susan De Mille Harvey Date: 8 Dec 1996 FROM JERRY: First you should see the reply on previous Tabor query which has information on that family name in TN. There is a TABER who was admitted to both the Dawes Roll and the Miller Roll. She was listed as Margaret OK TABER, of Little Rock, ARK. on Miller Roll, her App # is 35331, which I have not abstracted yet. She was 19 years old and apparently married to a TABER in Sept 1906, as she is listed as 1/8 blood on the Dawes Roll, under the name of Margaret O. BELL. Additional TABOR/TABER applicants who were rejected were: Susan Taber, app 29615 - TN - rejected - not abstracted yet. Bertha TABOR, ap 2904 - ARK - rejected - (Cherokee by Blood, vol. 2) claimed through Louisa BAYS (or MAYS), who was born in VA and went to Ind. Francis A TABOR, app 30927 - TX - rejected - not abstracted yet. Miles H TABOR, app 39206 - NC - rejected - not abstracted yet. Thos. J TABOR, app 39201 - NC - rejected - not abstracted yet. There were only four Bras(s)well applicants to the Miller Roll, all from GA. Their names were Wm Hampton BRASSWELL, app 31957 - rejected Cassie BRASWELL, app 31958 - rejected Howard BRASWELL, app 31959 - rejected Mammie BRASWELL, app 31960 - rejected FROM TERRI: There were Tabor's in Marion County, Ar-who were Cherokee but, never were enrolled on the Dawes as they did not come to Oklahoma. Have you ever checked the Dawes? From ???@??? Wed May 28 00:21:24 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA10307 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:25:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 27374 invoked by uid 531); 28 May 1997 00:56:31 -0000 Resent-Date: 28 May 1997 00:56:31 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-ID: <33874B68.2682@telapex.com> Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 15:11:20 -0500 From: edhall@telapex.com (ED HALL) Reply-To: edhall@telapex.com Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: edhall@telapex.com Subject: Brazzell-Lacey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"9k7QS3.0.bh6._AuYp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/546 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: ae9bef450707e07e71c414a32d76749a This might prove interesting for some of you. Forgot to include it in my last post. Getting senile. Pam Hall edhall@telapex.comLACY / BRAZZELL I am looking for my father's great-grandmother, Elizabeth True LACY. She was born circa 1850 and possibly in Missouri, but it is not known for certain. She married Martin BRAZZELL about 1870 and they had a son, William BRAZZELL, who had a daughter, Pearl Ethel BRAZZEL, who was my grandmother...They were all at one time living in Terre Haute, Vigo County, Indiana. It is a family belief that Elizabeth was either full-blood or part POTAWATOMIE. She lived to the age of nearly 100. Any suggestions or leads would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Pam Hall Date: 14 Dec 1996 FROM FIREHAIR: Unless your family came down from upper Mich, etc., Potawatamie may not be the answer. You are more apt, in Vigo co., to run into Shawnee, Wyandot, Delaware .etc. Also, so many People there came up out of Tn, Ky, you can also consider Cherokee, etc. Where did they say they were born in 1880?? Did you attempt to find the family in Mo, or IN in 1860 , 70? In 1860, she might show in her parents home. the census for those years are indexed (AIS) available in most big libraries. From ???@??? Wed May 28 00:21:25 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA10894 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:46:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 3959 invoked by uid 531); 28 May 1997 01:11:18 -0000 Resent-Date: 28 May 1997 01:11:17 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 16:40:56 -0400 (EDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970527163847_1174974230@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Richard Braswell, legatee of James Bryant (Bertie will, 1731) Resent-Message-ID: <"z6zmh2.0.lz.rOuYp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/547 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 7e9a841ffb0b51e845d0e70197496441 Dear Cousins, I notice that the rumor persists that Richard Braswell, named as a "son"(in-law) in the 1731 Bertie will of James Bryant, was Richard "II", grandson of the Immigrant. In fact he was almost certainly Richard "III" (Edgecombe will, 1767). The records show that Richard II had set up housekeeping with Ann Carver as early as 1720. It seems inconceivable that a man would name as a legatee a son-in-law who had deserted his daughter. Therefore I recommend that we add "Bryant(?)" after Elizabeth, the wife named in Richard III's will. Carey From ???@??? Wed May 28 00:21:26 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA11625 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:09:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 715 invoked by uid 531); 28 May 1997 02:01:22 -0000 Resent-Date: 28 May 1997 02:01:21 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 12:11:48 -0400 (EDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970525121147_-828648114@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Braswelliana MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0.12530.emout11.mail.aol.com.864576706" Resent-Message-ID: <"bA3rY2.0.2B.m7vYp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/548 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: a4837806d58171809a6bfb76cd7c9b01 Dear Cousins, Load up the printer! The attached file, styled "Documents 13-31" is the text of most of the Braswelliana that I intend to publish in my own book on our family. This section deals primarily with the period my branch was in North Carolina (c.1715-1785). Except for the first document--the will of SARAH VALENTINE(?) BRACEWELL (IofW, 1734)--it mainly deals with VALENTINE BRACEWELL (c.1692-c.1766) and his clan in Orange/Chatham & Anson counties. Of more general interest are some notes on the social history of the Tar Heel State. A second file, styled "Documents 32-44" will present data on subsequent periods, beginning with Greenville District, South Carolina, 1786-1820. The first file, Documents 1-12, deal mainly with the records of the Immigrant's family in seventeenth century Isle of Wight County, Virginia, and will be transmitted at a later date, after it is converted to 3.5" disc. We are indebted to Cousin Rich Ellis of Austin for transferring these data from their original electronic form--old fashioned 5" floppy--to the present 3.5" disc. They are out of chronological sequence because I have only recently located the disc containing the first twelve documents. Naturally these latter data will be of universal interest to Braswell researchers since it deals with our uncommon common ancestor, Rev. ROBERT BRACEWELL (1611-1668), and his immediate family. Carey Attachment Converted: "C:\INTERNET\KBMAIL\attach\SARAHWIL.DOC" From ???@??? Wed May 28 00:21:59 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA11962 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:19:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 6100 invoked by uid 531); 28 May 1997 02:14:45 -0000 Resent-Date: 28 May 1997 02:14:44 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:33:23 -0400 (EDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970525153319_1256763960@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Braswelliana (Documents 32-44) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0.7655.emout12.mail.aol.com.864588799" Resent-Message-ID: <"ySMrT3.0.GV1.JKvYp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/549 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: e7358062943840606e73e292506c3e53 Dear Cousins, Here are documents 32-44.Enjoy! Carey Attachment Converted: "C:\INTERNET\KBMAIL\attach\BRACEWEL.DOC" From ???@??? Wed May 28 00:22:31 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA12982 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:49:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 16659 invoked by uid 531); 28 May 1997 02:48:54 -0000 Resent-Date: 28 May 1997 02:48:54 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; To: braswell-l@genealogy.org Subject: Braswell marriages in VA Message-ID: <19970524.204201.9959.0.rjllc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-18 From: rjllc@juno.com (La Vera L Caruthers) Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 23:08:46 EDT Resent-Message-ID: <"eKHnx1.0.D44.LqvYp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/550 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: d9bddfe908424a1debe77d5bc7958aee I received this in the mail yesterday 23-MAY-1997 from a cousin in OK. I thought it might help some of you. It is a register of marriage licenses for Brunswick Co., VA and came from Book B, Page 38. Note:These are for the license to marry NOT the actual marriage date. 08-JAN-1817 Braswell, Jacob to Elizabeth Seward 03-SEP-1810 Braswell, Jesse to Winifred Nanny 23-DEC-1799 Braswell, John to Elizabeth James 13-FEB-1847 Braswell, John H. to Tabitha Nanny 28-NOV-1835 Braswell, Joseph P. to Nancy E. C. Jones 16-JAN-1837 Braswell, Parham H. to Nancy G. Hill 22-DEC-1834 Braswell, Pegram R. to Mary A. B. Atkins Have a nice Memorial Day weekend everybody! La Vera Caruthers rjllc@juno.com From ???@??? Wed May 28 13:01:18 1997 Received: from emout16.mail.aol.com (emout16.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.42]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA22645 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 10:07:56 -0500 (CDT) From: COMSU@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id LAA15800 for Braswell@pbmo.net; Wed, 28 May 1997 11:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 11:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970528110723_2053416921@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Sarah Frances Braswell X-UIDL: 75336b4c4852a1ad66a8a234dfdbd05b I am searching for info on Sarah Frances Braswell who married William Henderson Black 17 Oct, 1859. She was born abt. 1838. They had one son-- William Lee Black. I need to know Sarah's parents and siblings, etc. Any help would be appreciated. Sue Black Perry Comsu@aol.com From ???@??? Wed May 28 23:00:03 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA08567 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 20:00:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 8134 invoked by uid 531); 29 May 1997 01:00:24 -0000 Resent-Date: 29 May 1997 01:00:24 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:59:40 -0400 (EDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970528205938_-1732691743@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Fwd: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: genealogy.0rg: host not found) Resent-Message-ID: <"1azWK1.0.x-1.dKDZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/551 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: a359c1c79140ae2a6b6364c7421dadf9 --------------------- Forwarded message: From: MAILER-DAEMON@aol.com (Mail Delivery Subsystem) To: CBracewell@aol.com Date: 97-05-28 20:37:13 EDT The original message was received at Wed, 28 May 1997 20:33:12 -0400 (EDT) from root@localhost ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- Braswell-L@genealogy.0rg (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 Braswell-L@genealogy.0rg... Host unknown (Name server: genealogy.0rg: host not found) ----- Original message follows ----- Return-Path: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA09575 for Braswell-L@genealogy.0rg; Wed, 28 May 1997 20:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:33:12 -0400 (EDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970528203229_-2032929071@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.0rg Subject: Attachments Dear Cousins, I am informed today { in the brusque manner so distressingly common these days, both online and off} that my sending you research information via attachments is a violation of the terms of agreement for use of this venue. This was news to me. I hope that you will find Documents 13-44 useful to your Braswell research, and regret that I will not be sending 1-13 as promised, which, incidently, are the full texts of the original Isle of Wight County records concerning our Immigrant ancestor and his immediate family. This would have saved Keith or Nona {who have memeographed copies} the tedious task of retyping all these documents to share with you. More importantly, it would have given us all a common genealogical database to work from {since we all share this first family in common} and eliminated those significant, albeit innocent, false-to-fact errors about our First Family of Virginia that have been in circulation lately. Sorry. Most of you know that my own research has been essentially complete for years and I share these materials only out of love of family. Carey From ???@??? Thu May 29 09:53:01 1997 Received: from emout02.mail.aol.com (emout02.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.93]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA14764 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 23:33:34 -0500 (CDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id AAA19689; Thu, 29 May 1997 00:33:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 00:33:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970529003259_978032756@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: gayleell@cdsnet.net cc: braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com Subject: Those Braswell ancestors! X-UIDL: 614a1a10d387cffe5951c1128e22d5d5 Dear Gayle, Thank you for your several good messages this date. Good grief! I used up most of my correspondence time this evening on Foy, but here's a couple of quick observations to show I care and that I'm paying attention! : 1. A copy of the index to my Georgia records is in the mail to you. 2. That the SAMPSON, Revolutionary War vet of Washington County, Georgia, was a son of RICHARD III of Edgecombe is proved by Edgecombe DB 8-p.548 in which Sampson disposed of some land he inherited from that late father. 3. FREDERICK was definitely a member of R&O's family. I'll share my Wilkes files with you that shows him right in the middle of the community where R&O's brood were known to be in the late 1770's to c. 1785: Reddies River (north of Wilkesboro). Indeed, FRED was granted the very tract that included the Reddies River meeting house where they all worshiped, and he was neighbors to the HALLs & SHEPHERDs which were closely interrelated (literally) with R&O's bunch. He wasn't mentioned in the SMITH Bible (1875) because Smith's information did not reliably extend back before the Greenville District period (1786-1800+) --FRED split for Georgia before that. 4. FREDERICK "BRAZEAL"'s Jackson County will was signed October 6, 1821, and probated May 1, 1826. Wife, ELIZABETH, all of "what little property it has pleased God to bless me with" except $80.00 to TERRIL ROBERTSON "my grandson" now and after wife's death, balance of estate to JAMES SMITH ALEXANDER WILLIAMSON {sic} "my grandson". Wife and son-in-law, JOHN WILLIAMSON, co-executors. Signed by mark. Witnesses: EDWARD ADAMS, MARTHA JOHNSTON, JOHN JOHNSTON. Proved by ADAMS and MARTHA JOHNSTON, {I previously wrongly gave "1828" as his death date. Told you ya gotta watch this faulty old memory of mine. } ELIZABETH made her will in Jackson County on June 16, 1830, "being low & sick in body": to CHARLES DOUGHARTY, Jr. "one lot of land drawn in my name" {#180 in Lee County), whom she named as her executor. Liz, too, signed by mark. Witnesses: EDWARD ADAMS, CHARLES DOUGHARTY,Senior; ELIZABETH DOUGHARTY. Proved September 6, 1830, by ADAMS and CHARLES DOUGHARTY, Sr. The record that you found associating FREDERICK with a JOHN, Sr. is what got me to speculating about a connection with your Surry gang, right down the road from the Reddies River bunch of R&O. The presence of a GEORGE in Surry, identified him as the Regulator elder son of R&O who evidently was on the lam and who reappeared in Moore County just as he disappeared from Surry. GEORGE is named as a son of R&O by Smith (1875) and that name was perpetuated in my branch for a while. It is noteworthy for its rarity among 18th century North Carolina Braswellls, all of them associated with VALENTINE's gang. GEORGE was evidently admired {as poor FREDERICK was not} so you BV could have named his kid that even if the name weren't directly ancestral. Interesting that BV named the first one WILLIAM, which may well turn out to be ancestral. And it looks like with the association of JOHN with Northampton County that your lineage may well point to WILLIAM (s/o RICHARD I, d.1720). Time will tell. For it looks like the Northampton bunch (including Keith's) came from this "WILLIAM I". Again we have different branches in the same county, just to confuse us! 5. Sounds like your 5 acres are just as time-consuming as my 75! I wouldn't trust any but a sheep-herding breed of dog with your sheep. They will eventually kill them just for sport because its in their DNA. I had to give away a beloved black lab for that very reason. I share your frustration with the ravenous deer, also. I'll have to put up an electric fence around our pecan orchard or there won't be anything left. You do know to angle the fence, right? For some reason they won't jump it if it's built at angles. Carey From ???@??? Thu May 29 09:53:04 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA16390 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 00:57:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 9820 invoked by uid 531); 29 May 1997 05:57:00 -0000 Resent-Date: 29 May 1997 05:57:00 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-ID: <338D1B06.568A@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:58:31 -0700 From: Susan Williamson Reply-To: susanrlw@pacbell.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Braswell-L@Genealogy.Org Subject: Susanna Braswell Lamberth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"dt3oy2.0.IP2.hgHZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/552 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 06c881d86324b55fa1e7acacd02c9c66 I wouldn't really call myself a researcher but I have started to trace my family back generation by generation. I find that my ggg grandparents were Edwin Lamberth and Susanna Braswell, daughter of Joseph Braswell of Clarke County, GA. They were probably married c. 1800 and I think she died c 1808 as he married again c.1809. Can anyone tell me any more about Susanna and the lines preceding her. Thank you for any information that you can provide. Susan(Lamberth)Williamson Walnut Creek, CA From ???@??? Thu May 29 09:53:06 1997 Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (mail-gw2.pacbell.net [206.13.28.53]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA16619 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 01:11:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ppp-206-170-29-177.wnck11.pacbell.net [206.170.29.177]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA01892 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 23:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <338D1EAE.4734@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:14:06 -0700 From: Susan Williamson Reply-To: susanrlw@pacbell.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Geustbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: a1d1d63152e6d46cfdfbe20b3e07d751 I tried to sign your guestbook but it would not take my entry. I get an ERROR message. Susan Williamson From ???@??? Thu May 29 09:53:10 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA21408 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 08:58:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 3688 invoked by uid 531); 29 May 1997 13:56:59 -0000 Resent-Date: 29 May 1997 13:56:59 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 09:56:15 -0400 (EDT) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970529095609_-61620132@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@emcee.com Subject: Re: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: genealogy.0rg: host not found) Resent-Message-ID: <"JIqCI2.0.Yv.giOZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/553 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: d4db117b627372cf5da8f5901f45b94b Cousin Carey - What an outrage. Who is the culprit here? I know attachments are legal on AOL. Keith can't be against it. The old Braswell service accepted many attachments, i.e. the Church, etc. It's probably the new service - BRASWELL-L@EMCEE.COM. If so, we need a new service. Anyway, I gotta have a copy of 1-13. You're on AOL and so am I, so fire away. Your Indignant Cousin Foy From ???@??? Fri May 30 09:13:31 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (qmailr@genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA15598 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 23:33:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 30349 invoked by uid 531); 30 May 1997 03:39:35 -0000 Resent-Date: 30 May 1997 03:39:34 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 00:05:20 -0400 (EDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970530000518_1223728602@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Braswell Documents 1-12 Resent-Message-ID: <"1OTze3.0._P7.qlaZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/555 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 21e0d6092b729403ec3fb49971e57a15 Dear Cousins, I am pleased to report that it is not, in fact, a violation of our use of this venue to include attachments from time to time. Therefore I will be transmitting Documents 1-12 in the near future. However I will send them in smaller sets so as not to overwhelm anyone's poor overworked printer ! This series will include such precious documents as the complete probate records (inventories, etc.) of our Immigrant ancestor, REV. ROBERT BRACEWELL (1611-1668). I was very touched by the expressions of concern and appreciation from so many of you. It is not my policy to spread anything but love {and hard genealogical data! } in the world, so I will not point a finger at anyone. Suffice to say this rude complaint did not originate with Keith or anyone else you know. Carey From ???@??? Fri May 30 09:13:32 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA16957 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 00:58:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 3687 invoked by uid 531); 30 May 1997 04:01:14 -0000 Resent-Date: 30 May 1997 04:01:12 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; To: CBracewell@aol.com Cc: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: Re: Braswell Documents 1-12 Message-ID: <19970530.013145.11014.9.jameswgreen@juno.com> References: <970530000518_1223728602@emout07.mail.aol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-3,8,10,13-37 From: jameswgreen@juno.com (James W. Green III) Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 01:35:37 EDT Resent-Message-ID: <"yMwbH3.0.7v.14bZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/557 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 768c1ca915a5280a4119a4b10e89731e On Fri, 30 May 1997 00:05:20 -0400 (EDT) CBracewell@aol.com writes: >Dear Cousins, > I am pleased to report that it is not, in fact, a violation of our >use of this venue to include attachments from time to time. Therefore >I will be transmitting Documents 1-12 in the near future. However I will >send them in smaller sets so as not to overwhelm anyone's poor overworked >printer ! This series will include such precious documents as the >complete probate records (inventories, etc.) of our Immigrant ancestor, >REV. ROBERT BRACEWELL (1611-1668). I was very touched by the expressions >of concern and appreciation from so many of you. It is not my policy to >spread anything but love {and hard genealogical data! } in the world, >so I will not point a finger at anyone. Suffice to say this rude >complaint did not originate with Keith or anyone else you know. >Carey Carey et al, I hope I do not offend, but my understanding is that Juno blocks all file attachments & all email over 61K & all graphics. I have an AT&T account that could receive attachments & graphics, but I try to stay off it since I only get 5 free hours per month. Wouldn't it be more permanent if they were put on the web rather than sent in email. Hmm, I guess some can't browse the web so maybe email is good for them though I wonder if they can receive file attachments. Try sending one & we shall see who all bounces & who all gets it. BTW, if you wonder why I don't pay a provider, I am used to getting my internet free these past 12 years from the university. File attachments are new to the internet. I have to pay $25 to $30 per month to put Columbia in my local calling area just to reach Juno & AT&T & the university. I do not want to spend another $20 on a provider. I think I am spending enough. -- James W. Green III / Rt.5, Box 720 / Winnsboro SC 29180 CSA home:803-635-9236 http://www.Genealogy.Org/~green http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/9389 From ???@??? Fri May 30 09:13:34 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA20881 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 07:53:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 23726 invoked by uid 531); 30 May 1997 12:52:49 -0000 Resent-Date: 30 May 1997 12:52:48 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 08:52:22 -0400 (EDT) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970530085221_216745545@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: C3mills@aol.com cc: Braswell-L@genealogy.org Subject: James Alexander Braswell Resent-Message-ID: <"pDT4y2.0.co5.WsiZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/558 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 725ed513c06f84f3244af7c35f5ca17b Cousin Tom - A friend found your message (part of it below) and passed it on to me. There is a Braswell Family net at URL: http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ My family didn't get into GA but someone on our net can probably help you. Braswell cousins are always welcome. Foy Braswell FoyBrasw@aol.com ------------------------------ James Alexander Braswell.. b. Dec 25, 1839 in Stewart Co..? d. March 27, 1913 in Clay Co., Ga.. buried in Bluffton Cem.. mar.. Georgia Ann Mills.. b. Jan.26, 1844 also bur. in Bluffton Cem.. Children: James Lambert, John Gordon, Carrie, Wille Laura,(my Grandmother) Lola Leigh, Sara Regina... Any info: Needed & Wanted.. William Henry Miller.. b. may 10, 1846 in Miller Co., Ga.... d. Mar 31, 1926 in Miller Co... Mar.. Martha Jane Cowart... b. Dec 29, 1852 in Miller Co.. d. May 11, 1923... Would like any info: On William Henry Miller's.. Parents...... Please E-mail Me @..... C3mills@aol.com Thanks,.... Tom Mills From ???@??? Fri May 30 19:07:36 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (qmailr@genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA06215 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 19:05:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 12821 invoked by uid 531); 31 May 1997 00:05:30 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 May 1997 00:05:30 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970530190558.007ccc40@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:05:58 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: George L. Braswell Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"nmAGk1.0.G83.9jsZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/559 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 24e1fb79aeb285f687adff486da688a3 Chief-George L. Braswell signed the Guestbook on 05/10/97. mailto:sing@sstelco.com Chief-George L. Braswell Comments: Great to see we Braswell's on the InterNet!! We are a family of five. Semi-Retired (U.S. AIR FORCE) Currently Singing Country Gospel Music wherever I'm called to serve. Project: Cast Your Faith Upon The Water, available on CD or Tape. Also, serve as Tournament Logistics Director for The Ladies Pro-Fishing Circuit; BASS'N GAL's. Great Wife of 30years, Karen; Oldest son John Joseph at Oklahoma School of Medicine. (3rd Year); George Jr. 14years old, Academic State/Band/Football; Christine Nicole, Five years old. Gods Gift to DAD and Family. Please contact us for more information. Chief-George Braswell/ P.O. Box 1199/ Salina, OK. 74365-1199/ Phone: 918-434-6707. God Be With You!!!! http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/guestbook.html David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Fri May 30 20:06:38 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA08042 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 19:56:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 20535 invoked by uid 531); 31 May 1997 00:53:13 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 May 1997 00:53:13 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970530195712.007d0100@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:57:12 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: David Hunt Guestbook Entry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"9U50x2.0.n05.uPtZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/560 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 9b21d7f67d23a2c48cc83d13c69a46f4 David Hunt signed the Guestbook on 05/13/97. mailto:scootman@earthlink.net David Hunt Comments: Decended from Ann Cloe Braswell Hunt, G-G Granddaughter of Richard Braswell and Sarah Sampson. Ann and husband William Hunt lived in Edgecombe, Nash and later Bladen counties in North Carolina. http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/guestbook.html David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Fri May 30 20:14:28 1997 Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA08444 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 20:11:22 -0500 (CDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA21287; Fri, 30 May 1997 21:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 21:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970530211045_387474592@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: jameswgreen@juno.com cc: braswell@pbmo.net, rof@backporch.com Subject: Re: Braswell Documents 1-12 X-UIDL: dd470934fec63e974f95d93344dbf18c Dear Cousin James, Thanks for the information and suggestions about sharing our Braswelliana online. I am still relatively new to this venue and definitely still learning, as anyone can readily see by the latest exchanges online. BTW, Cousin Bill Fields sends his regards. He is still toiling away at abstracting the deeds of Cumberland County,NC, in colloboration with Dr George Stevenson, whom you no doubt also know. I have advised contemporary researchers to limit their attempts to contact Bill since at his present advanced age, he doesn't need to be bothered by a flock of neophyte Braswell researchers. Further, the ongoing work he and his team are doing is too important to be delayed with inquiries that you or I or another advanced researcher could as easily handle. Don't you agree? This was my idea, not Bill's, who as you know is always the soul of Southern hospitality and generosity. Professional courtesy demands that I credit Bill with whatever Braswelliana I share with others that came from him--and it is quite a body of documents and brilliant, witty commentary--but the last thing in the world that I want to do is burden our old friend with a bunch of needless inquiries. I will probably stay at this until I have shared the better part of my colonial Braswelliana with contemporary researchers, even though my own research has been essentially complete for more than two decades. Obviously I love doing it--it satisfies my need to teach--and as you must know it is very gratifying to help another researcher save years of effort and frustration in tracing his or her Braswell lineage. I've been able to help a few folks in that way already. It's not about ego, but sharing, although I must admit I can come very close to simply moving on to other hobby interests with confronted by a crass ingrate as happened this week. Carey From ???@??? Fri May 30 20:14:29 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA08497 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 20:13:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 21751 invoked by uid 531); 31 May 1997 01:08:51 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 May 1997 01:08:51 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970530201253.007dbca0@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 20:12:53 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: Braswell Census Index Info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"W5pG13.0.nJ5.YetZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/561 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: f57a42464e40df099feb90d93ab5ed55 I think this is the 1820 census if I am not mistaken... -Keith Census Index HALIFAX CO., NC Name Date Page Brazil, Elijah 1820 139 Brazil, James 1820 139 Brazzel, Witwell 1820 139 David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Fri May 30 20:25:41 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA08798 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 20:24:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 23144 invoked by uid 531); 31 May 1997 01:17:27 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 May 1997 01:17:27 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970530202407.007b15f0@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 20:24:07 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: More Possible Braswell Census information Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"O908z1.0.Uf5.bmtZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/562 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: ddad006724b36668f2373ad36abcd54a Brasell, Arthur 1820 WILKINSON CO., GA 218 Brasell, Arthur 1824 WILKINSON CO., GA Brasell, Mary 1820 WILKINSON CO., GA 227 Brasell, Mary 1824 WILKINSON CO., GA Brasil, Frederick 1820 MONTICELLO, IRWIN CO., GA 200 Brasil, Frederick 1824 MONTICELLO, IRWIN CO., GA Brasil, James 1820 NEW PORT PARISH, ISLE OF WIGHT CO., VA 110 Brasile, Richard 1829 ARKANSAS TERR., PULASKI CO., AR 002 TAX LIST Brasile, Robert 1820 SILVER CREEK, MADISON CO., IL 088 Brasile, Valentine 1829 ARKANSAS TERR., PULASKI CO., AR 002 TAX LIST Bracewell, Archelas 1820 EDGECOMBE CO., NC 129 Bracewell, James 1820 LEONARD'S DIST., MORGAN CO., GA 364 Bracewell, James 1824 LEONARD'S DIST., MORGAN CO., GA Bracewell, James 1820 PULASKI CO., GA 072 Bracewell, James 1824 PULASKI CO., GA Bracewell, James 1820 MC CLENDON'S DIST., MORGAN CO., GA 336 Bracewell, James 1824 MC CLENDON'S DIST., MORGAN CO., GA David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Fri May 30 20:32:33 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA08942 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 20:29:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 23547 invoked by uid 531); 31 May 1997 01:19:11 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 May 1997 01:19:10 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970530202802.0079d810@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 20:28:02 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: Brook Christian Braswell Guestbook Entry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"krWUh2.0.kl5.DotZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/563 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: c61e93bf07cd44dd6b4eb3c4441aeeb6 Brook Christian Braswell signed the Guestbook on 05/16/97. mailto:bbraswell@sedie.com Brook Christian Braswell Comments: My Great-Grandfather (John Jasper Braswell), I was told was originally from somewhere in Missouri. I do not know when he moved to Georgia. My Grandfather is from Augusta, Georgia/Lyons, Georgia ( Robert Lee Braswell ) He had five children (June, Jedon, Ann, Francis, Robert) My father is Robert Ponder Braswell the youngest of five children and only male. He has three children (Lee, Brook, Deborah) I am the second of three children and the youngest Male Braswell in my generation. Above my Great-Grandfather, I do not know much of anything. http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/guestbook.html David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Fri May 30 23:36:48 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA13904 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 23:31:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 10052 invoked by uid 531); 31 May 1997 04:31:40 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 May 1997 04:31:40 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970530233208.007d3db0@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 23:32:08 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: Karla Wigley/Braswell Guestbook Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"RUlcw3.0.-S2.hcwZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/566 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: a1c3865acd641dd7f287eb73ea9c48ff Karla K. Wigley signed the Guestbook on 05/23/97. mailto:kwigley@austinc.edu Karla K. Wigley Comments: I am a descendant of Jacob Green Braswell of Bibb County, GA circa 1830. Jacob's son, Abner Cicero Braswell is my great-great-great grandfather. I have not been able to to make a connection to Jacob Green Braswell's parents. http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/guestbook.html David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Sat May 31 01:40:33 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA15910 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 01:19:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 26273 invoked by uid 531); 31 May 1997 06:19:14 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 May 1997 06:19:14 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970531011941.007ed760@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 01:19:41 -0500 To: Braswell-L@genealogy.org From: Keith Braswell Subject: Re: Braswelliana (Documents 32-44) In-Reply-To: <970525153319_1256763960@emout12.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"VsQro2.0.NQ6.XByZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/567 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 310c89f72ac97400dfb138dd792b9e33 Carey, I am sorry I haven't had time to reply to any of your messages. I appreciate all your hard work and contributions! Thanks for the attached documents! Keep up the good work. Maybe someday I will get back in the groove! Keith At 03:33 PM 5/25/97 -0400, CBracewell@aol.com wrote: >Dear Cousins, > Here are documents 32-44.Enjoy! > >Carey > >Attachment Converted: "C:\INTERNET\KBMAIL\attach\BRACEWEL.DOC" > David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Sat May 31 01:40:34 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA15956 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 01:23:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 26595 invoked by uid 531); 31 May 1997 06:23:09 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 May 1997 06:23:09 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970531012332.007ef2a0@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 01:23:32 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: COMSU@aol.com (by way of Keith Braswell ) Subject: Sarah Frances Braswell Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"JIwzh.0.QV6.CFyZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/568 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: af57fe7f38ce32b6ce3833e664b24dff I am searching for info on Sarah Frances Braswell who married William Henderson Black 17 Oct, 1859. She was born abt. 1838. They had one son-- William Lee Black. I need to know Sarah's parents and siblings, etc. Any help would be appreciated. Sue Black Perry Comsu@aol.com From ???@??? Sat May 31 01:58:49 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA16288 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 01:57:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 29304 invoked by uid 531); 31 May 1997 06:57:12 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 May 1997 06:57:12 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970531015708.0080c8f0@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 01:57:08 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: Dan T. Price / Braswell Guestbook Entry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"MJkus.0.o97.7lyZp"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/569 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 4cd3e73bc24b8f212585b13e7ea33249 Dan T. Price, D.D.S. signed the Guestbook on 05/31/97. mailto:dmjprice@prodigy.net Dan T. Price, D.D.S. Comments: My great-grandfather was George Critton Absher. He married Lizzie Braswell on December 24, 1882. They lived in Sumner County, Tennessee for many years before moving to Oklahoma. George died in Oklahoma and I assume that Lizzie did as well. I hope someone might know of Lizzie and her background. Thanks for your consideration; Dr. Dan http://cgi.pbmo.net/braswellguestbook.html David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Sat May 31 10:50:21 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA19147 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 07:36:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 10427 invoked by uid 531); 31 May 1997 12:36:29 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 May 1997 12:36:29 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 08:36:24 -0400 (EDT) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Message-ID: <970531083622_677348112@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@emcee.com Subject: Re: Sarah Frances Braswell Resent-Message-ID: <"mjg1-.0.rY2.Cj1ap"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/570 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: e2a0dddd2ce9fe174b5361cad4f6df82 Do you have any clues on what states, counties, etc. Sarah was in? Foy Braswell From ???@??? Sat May 31 10:50:22 1997 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA19293 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 07:45:37 -0500 (CDT) From: FoyBrasw@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA05002 for braswell@pbmo.net; Sat, 31 May 1997 08:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 08:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970531084504_1358862355@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: braswell@pbmo.net Subject: Re: Mucho Braswells X-UIDL: d8eb5bc1226ac99bc066c4a6d4b75add Cousin Keith - I still haven't had time to work out an easy way to capture the AOL Braswell's email addresses. My idea is that a mass mail out would be good advertisement to get more cousins on the net. The same thing could be done with other service providers if they have a "Buddy List." Another thing that could be done is do a "people search." Yahoo has one at URL: http://www.yahoo.com/search/people/ If you are interested in Braswells all over the US or in a specific city, that's the way to do it. This might be a good project. I don't think it could be construed as a commercial advertisement. Cousin Foy From ???@??? Sat May 31 10:50:23 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA20333 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 09:08:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 18159 invoked by uid 531); 31 May 1997 14:08:23 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 May 1997 14:08:23 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; X-Sender: fchilton@mail.hic.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 09:08:15 -0500 To: braswell-l@emcee.com From: Frank Chilton Subject: William Brazzell, born 1760 Resent-Message-ID: <"a6ZOo.0.fR4.L33ap"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/571 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 590e11a35d751fdf0c10b060d4153721 Geneva Does anyone know who are the parents and/or siblings of William Brazzell, born 1760 in North Carolina? Will appreciate any help on tracing William's ancestors. 1. William BRAZZELL (BRAZEL) (1760 - ) NC & Katherine LISTER 2 Nancy BRAZZELL (BRAZEL) (1805 - 30 Aug 1879) Tennessee & Joshua CHILTON (11 Dec 1796 - 22 Jan 1880) Tennessee 3 Perditta CHILTON (31 Mar 1829 - 22 Nov 1882) & Richard PARRIOTT (21 Feb 1818 - 23 Jan 1896) 3 Elvira CHILTON (31 Jul 1832 - 11 Sep 1884) & David WELLS (1829 - 21 Jan 1876) 3 Mary Ann CHILTON (14 Sep 1837 - ? ) & Mathew WELLS (1837 - 1889) 3 Nancy Jane CHILTON (28 Aug 1834 - 30 Sep 1921) & John Samuel SCHROYER (27 Aug 1835 - 26 Nov 1915) 3 Thomas Mathias CHILTON (29 Apr 1841 - 1928) & Priscilla RUSH (1848 - 1891) 3 Lucy Catharine CHILTON (15 Jul 1843 - ? ) & Charles A. WEED (1843 - ? ) 3 Priscilla CHILTON (20 Jun 1845 - 2 Feb 1868) & George SAVAGE (12 Mar 1842 - 17 Jun 1900) 2 Obedience BRAZZELL (BRAZEL) & Unknown REED 2 Sarah BRAZZELL (BRAZEL) & Unknown WALL 2 Isabelle BRAZZELL (BRAZEL) ( - 21 Jul 1869) & John TROTTER Frank Chilton Houston, Texas fchilton@hic.net From ???@??? Sat May 31 16:19:40 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA28814 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 16:17:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 30572 invoked by uid 531); 31 May 1997 21:17:17 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 May 1997 21:17:17 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970531161815.007a21e0@pbmo.net> X-Sender: braswell@pbmo.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 16:18:15 -0500 To: The Braswell List From: Keith Braswell Subject: Susan Williamson / Braswell Guestbook Entry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"UbttK.0.YT7.SL9ap"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/572 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: 4cc46bc5b8cb67856f864973ad05920d Susan Williamson signed the Guestbook on 05/31/97. mailto:susanrlw@pacbell.net What a wonderful source of information. It looks like you have all the lines covered. I have started to trace my family back generation by generation and have come across a Braswell. My ggg grandmother was Susanna Braswell who married Edwin Lamberth. She was the daughter of Joseph Braswell of Clarke Co., GA. I hope to find out more about my line and this looks like a good place to start! Susan (Lamberth) Williamson Walnut Creek, California http://cgi.pbmo.net/braswellguestbook.html David (Keith) Braswell Phone: (573) 778-3853 2192 Penny Street http://www.pbmo.net/suburb/braswell/ Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 E-Mail: braswell@pbmo.net From ???@??? Sat May 31 21:36:18 1997 Received: from genealogy.emcee.com (genealogy.org [207.167.87.50]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA00319 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 17:25:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 3823 invoked by uid 531); 31 May 1997 22:22:22 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 May 1997 22:22:22 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 18:21:30 -0400 (EDT) From: CBracewell@aol.com Message-ID: <970531182128_-464033372@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: braswell-l@emcee.com Subject: Re: Ann BRASWELL Resent-Message-ID: <"8yIg6.0.fx.UIAap"@genealogy> Resent-From: braswell-l@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/573 X-Loop: braswell-l@emcee.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: braswell-l-request@emcee.com X-UIDL: bb333ade0f2d6568b0ca8a725f27f2b9 Dear Strickland Cousin, ANN BRACEWELL STRICKLAND (b.Ca 1682), Isle of Wight County, Virginia, was indeed the d/o RICHARD & SARAH BRACEWELL. However the assertion that SARAH's maiden name was SAMPSON is incorrect. Although unproven, it is more likely that it was VALENTINE inasmuch as she named one of her sons by that unusual --and proudly perpetuated--surname name (VALENTINE BRACEWELL was the only person with that given name, for instance, on the Bertie (NC) List of 470 veniremen in 1740. (Colonial Records of North Carolina, Vol. 4, p.523). Further documented information about ANN's family will be forthcoming on this venue. If you could supply us with additional information about her family by MATTHEW STRICKLAND, Jr. and an estimate of her date of death, that would be interesting for comparison purposes. Please specify any documentation cited. Anent the SAMPSON canard, I have no idea how that one got started, for there is no colonial documentation I've ever seen to support such a contention. Perhaps the association with some of RICHARD & SARAH's immediate descendants with persons by that surname, coupled with the fact that there were some early SAMPSONs BRACEWELL, is the answer. My guess is that the first use of that name was to honor the Biblical character; Lord knows they needed the strength of Sampson to endure their hardships! Carey From ???@??? Sat May 31 23:50:58 1997 Received: from mainserver.surfnetusa.com (mainserver.surfnetusa.com [208.201.152.2]) by vigil.pbmo.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA05340 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 21:36:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [208.201.152.57] by mainserver.surfnetusa.com (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id xa005743 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 19:37:04 +0100 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: rof@backporch.com To: braswell@pbmo.net, CBracewell@aol.com Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 19:29:14 +0000 MI